Domainers Collectively are Screwing themselves

[YaaDoo]

With the Recent boom of the LLLL.com everyone is looking new opportunities to invest in the so call next boom.

We got a whole bunch of people going after the LLL.in market which is all bought out, the NNNNN.com which is also all bought out and now there`s people talking about an LLLL.net buyout, NNN.co.in buyout, LLL.co.in buyout, Premium LLLLL.com buyou and even some premium LLLL.org buyout.

Honestly, guys wake the frick up. I`m speaking on the behalf of all domainers. We are just collectively dumping all our money and giving it to those large domain register with all these buyouts. What happens with the buyouts? Most of the time you just trade amongst yourself hoping it will boom but chances is the it will just collapse when people renewal year starts to come around.

So many people are just putting too much money into markets that don`t weight out in terms of risk to return. Your 10 fold return with LLL.co.in will never happen, at least not in the next 10 years unless India conquers the world. And even then you won`t get it. Look at what happen to .cn with growing china and huge population. It went no where, and even .us is not worth that much. LLL.us has been up for that long and they are selling for like 40-50 min wholesale. How much do you think LLL.in or LLL.co.in could sustain? The whole market is driven by unlogical optimism due to the LLLL.com.

LLLL.com buyout was logical, NNNN.com buy was logical, its .com. Number 1 extention by far, it`s global, cheap to reg, eveyrone even outside of the domaining industry knows about it and has lots of end users.

Honestly people, if you want get into a boom, Premium LLLL.net is acceptable, NNNNN.com is acceptable(read up more about this, you`ll be surprised at it`s potentional unrealized by many still now)

But LLL.co.in, NNN.co.in, LLLL.org or random thinking of a completely buyout of LLLL.net including random ones and expect it to boom is nonsense. It will not sustain itself with the reg fees. Not for the current foreseeable future that is.

 

[YaaDoo]

The guy who reged it $15 and sold it for $4 had a bad sale. Also the guy who just bought it for $20 only to sell it for $10 had a bad sale.

 

[Pommy - The DN Doc]

The guy who reged it $15 and sold it for $4 had a bad sale. Also the guy who just bought it for $20 only to sell it for $10 had a bad sale.

Not everyone can make a profit from every deal in any industry.

The losses were limited by reg fees for those that regged though. Not something you can say for many industries - sure you can lose plenty of money but you would have to make loads of individual mistakes. People lose thousands in other industries just from one purchase, eg real estate.

 

[bro]

The guy who reged it $15 and sold it for $4 had a bad sale. Also the guy who just bought it for $20 only to sell it for $10 had a bad sale.

I am glad to see YaaDoo You have started giving out lessons of domaining right after 3 months of domaining experience :yell: bravo

 

[YaaDoo]

I am glad to see YaaDoo You have started giving out lessons of domaining right after 3 months of domaining experience bravo

Thanks but I've been doing this for more than 3 months. But for your information some people can do this for a long time and still suck. You can keep hating all you want.

 

[bro]

You can keep hating all you want.

3-4 months not more, and started from dp :imho: Keep hating what?

 

[YaaDoo]

7-8 months actually. But that's besides the point. You can talk about the topic of the thread. Otherwise don't put your pointless comments in here. How long I've been domaining, I don't see how it relates to the topic of the thread.

 

[bro]

7-8 months actually. But that's besides the point. You can talk about the topic of the thread. Otherwise don't put your pointless comments in here. How long I've been domaining, I don't see how it relates to the topic of the thread.

Nice, this is coming from a so called domainer who couldnt make a penny from domaining?

I am going a bit personal but its necessary for others to know who wasted their time discussing with a kid.

1. Mr Yadoo has his own agenda of pumping up nnnnn.com because the only bunch of domains he holds on to are nnnnn.coms
2. He isnt even a succesful domainer to claim anything and all he is trying is just seeking attention, thats all

What I know about OP.

1. OP started domaining a while back on dp
2. He even added me on msn just to tell me that LLLL.Com thing is just bullshit (thats where I have made good ROI and prolly he noticed me reselling LLLL) ..
3, OP couldnt manage to acquire many LLLL.Coms so all he could grab in the end was a bunch of nnnnn.Com which he is trying to pump up now

A n00b, complete waste of time..

I have turned my less than $1k investment into over $12k (minimum - (ask fellow member Alex if You have any doubts)) within 6-7 months, but never felt any need of bullshit around and suggest people whats gonna work and what not for them.

Kid when you do something great in domain names then I would like to hear from You, and for now try reselling that nnnnn.com crap you own for $15 each which takes at least 2 bumps in each sale.

 

[YaaDoo]

I have turned my less than $1k investment into over $12k (minimum - (ask fellow member Alex if You have any doubts)) within 6-7 months, but never felt any need of bullshit around and suggest people whats gonna work and what not for them.

Congrats on your returns, That's not bad. I made quite a bit of LLLL.com too, not nearly as much as 11k, got on in it a tad bit late. Yes I was saying the rise in price of LLLL.com was bullshit and speculation overboard especially for crappy random ones with little hope for end users. And I was right, as you can seen LLLL.com has dropped in price in the recent period.

LLLL.com is worth a lot over it's reg fee in real value that's why it went off so hard, that it got to a point it was just overboard. I was always telling people sooner or later crappy LLLL.com going to take a dip right when some big guys decide it's the time to cash in and flood the market. The instant when LLLL.com are not continuing to go up and people lose faith it's going to drop and it did.

Just curious, do you actually disagree with any of my opinions or predictions like random regging of LLLL.net or LLL.co.in is not worth it? Go for NNNNN.com or Premium LLLL.net. I mean do you actually disagree or just here to participle in personal bashing and trolling.

 

[goodkarmaco]

Now I know why Yadoo posted this about me,

"Please read the thread before you post goodkarmaco. Your just making the thread longer and repeating. If you don't want to read the post above then don't post you'll just be wasting other people's time. Yes I would reg come.in but not LLLL.com. Would you reg Sexy.name? Why don't you start regging LLLL.name. Get my thrift. Your off topic, your talking about generic names."


So Mr. smart guy thinks I am making this post longer and repeating when the only words before this post I have said was (do you think come.in is worthless)?

Come on dude your quick to bash comments are transparent, you have an agenda.



So its all about bashing.

Yadoo I think you could have addressed my two word comment in this thread with a little more politeness, regardless if I know alot about LLLL or little.

Check yourself as I will more than likely say a hell of alot more than two words next time.

I like newbies and will try to help, but this forum is not about bashing its about learning, tell me something I don't know, but do it with class please.

 

[YaaDoo]

I said that because a guy before said the exact same thing as you throwing a generic name. I think he refered to money.in. So I decided to type up a post to explain that generic names and LLL, LLLL, and etc are in different catergoties later.

And shortly after you came in with come.in. That's why I said you are repeating and told you to look back to previous post. BTW I was bashing your comment and post not you personally. I don't go around bashing people for sake of it, especially when it's completely not related to the topic.

 

[Pommy - The DN Doc]

I understand the personality issues here, but could we draw a line under them at this point? I still think the topic itself was interesting and thought provoking.

 

[bro]

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[Ross]

Congrats on your returns, That's not bad. I made quite a bit of LLLL.com too, not nearly as much as 11k, got on in it a tad bit late. Yes I was saying the rise in price of LLLL.com was bullshit and speculation overboard especially for crappy random ones with little hope for end users. And I was right, as you can seen LLLL.com has dropped in price in the recent period.

LLLL.com is worth a lot over it's reg fee in real value that's why it went off so hard, that it got to a point it was just overboard. I was always telling people sooner or later crappy LLLL.com going to take a dip right when some big guys decide it's the time to cash in and flood the market. The instant when LLLL.com are not continuing to go up and people lose faith it's going to drop and it did.

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LLLL.com market is leveling, not because "some big guys" are cashing in. Its because the hype is wearing off and the LLLL.coms are actually taking what they are worth. The value will go down for a little while and then level. From there as supply and demand starts to take place the value will rise steadly, not 50% in a month. Something like 2%-5% is more realistic and that is even quite a bit. LLLL.com investments are turning in to a long term investment rather than a quick flip.

I also find it hard to believe that you made 11k off of LLLL.coms if you were a "tad late", unless you invest prolly half of that or you made good investments in pronoucable/quality LLLL.coms that rose in price dramatically for a while.

For all of you that are reading this think that "short domains" are not a good investment please read these sites/threads:

4LetterNoob.com - for all your LLLL.com needs & LLLL.com price guide.

TDVR.com - For recent sales history of LLLL.coms.

Short Domain Buyout Info

Short Domain Investing 101

Acronym domain valuation

These reads will give you a better understanding of the market, instead of this thread where people are arguing about pointless things. You can also pm me a question if you have any.

 

[YaaDoo]

Where did I say that your comment was useless and what comment did you make. Maybe the comment you made was useless. Hey, you can't be right all the time. And I don't think any of my comments on the topic are useless. Feel free to try to quote one if you like, that mine is useless.

So technical the only think you disagree with me is just NNNNN.com is no good. I thought the same as you about NNNNN.com but I'm sure you may change your mind if you read a bit more about them. I think it's got potential, and you don't, everything else we are in terms with I think right? NNN.co.in, LLL.co.in etc all no good. LLLL.net Premium good?

So you basically agreeing with me on the majority of the things I mentioned and you are calling me a noob. Bravo... I wonder what that makes you.

LLLL.com market is leveling, not because "some big guys" are cashing in. Its because the hype is wearing off and the LLLL.coms are actually taking what they are worth. The value will go down for a little while and then level. From there as supply and demand starts to take place the value will rise steadly, not 50% in a month. Something like 2%-5% is more realistic and that is even quite a bit. LLLL.com investments are turning in to a long term investment rather than a quick flip.

I also find it hard to believe that you made 11k off of LLLL.coms if you were a "tad late", unless you invest prolly half of that or you made good investments in pronoucable/quality LLLL.coms that rose in price dramatically for a while.

For all of you that are reading this think that "short domains" are not a good investment please read these sites/threads:

Your right that it's leveling off, but the reason that it started to level off is because of the market being flooded. If more people had decided to keep theirs and buy more, it would keep going up til sometime when the market is flooded then it will level off. LLLL.com right now might or might not drop a little more. After that we can see it come back up again, to get closer to the equilibrium price, which is like you said, leveling off.

 

[Ross]

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Your right that it's leveling off, but the reason that it started to level off is because of the market being flooded. If more people had decided to keep theirs and buy more, it would keep going up til sometime when the market is flooded then it will level off. LLLL.com right now might or might not drop a little more. After that we can see it come back up again, to get closer to the equilibrium price, which is like you said, leveling off.

Go look at the market place. People are holding on to the LLLL.coms. People are realizing the hype is over and to get anymore value they have to hold on to them or sell to an end-user. People are far from dumping and flooding the market. You see less and less quality ones being sold every day, and if there is a sale its usually for a hefty price. So please think, investigate, and do your research before you comment on something you have no idea about.

 

[bro]

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[DnEbook]

domaining ...... take no chances , get no changes

 

[kemjika11]

I agree.Until renewal fees for LLL.in and LLL.co.in are reduced ,there won't be any chance of getting good sales.
Maybe in another 10 years,when the number of domainers from Indian increase.

Just like mwzd, i disagree with this. whats stopping LLL.in/.co.ins from having good sales? i've seen several on NP and on another website(the link was shared on NP too). Many businesses(include indian owned ones) will pay a decent amount for a domain name that suites them well. THis is basic domaining

 

[wot]

I agree.Until renewal fees for LLL.in and LLL.co.in are reduced ,there won't be any chance of getting good sales.
Maybe in another 10 years,when the number of domainers from Indian increase.

I also see very little potential in these indian domain names, 1 billion + people- absolutely no potential - drop them as soon as you can - just pm me a list before you do. :hi:

 

[Basement]

I also see very little potential in these indian domain names, 1 billion + people- absolutely no potential - drop them as soon as you can - just pm me a list before you do. :hi:

:hehe:
Seriously, are people blind? Most Indian companies have the .in extension for their company name and are prepared to pay quite a hefty amount for it.
heck, even MTV has switched to a .in