Domainers Collectively are Screwing themselves

[YaaDoo]

With the Recent boom of the LLLL.com everyone is looking new opportunities to invest in the so call next boom.

We got a whole bunch of people going after the LLL.in market which is all bought out, the NNNNN.com which is also all bought out and now there`s people talking about an LLLL.net buyout, NNN.co.in buyout, LLL.co.in buyout, Premium LLLLL.com buyou and even some premium LLLL.org buyout.

Honestly, guys wake the frick up. I`m speaking on the behalf of all domainers. We are just collectively dumping all our money and giving it to those large domain register with all these buyouts. What happens with the buyouts? Most of the time you just trade amongst yourself hoping it will boom but chances is the it will just collapse when people renewal year starts to come around.

So many people are just putting too much money into markets that don`t weight out in terms of risk to return. Your 10 fold return with LLL.co.in will never happen, at least not in the next 10 years unless India conquers the world. And even then you won`t get it. Look at what happen to .cn with growing china and huge population. It went no where, and even .us is not worth that much. LLL.us has been up for that long and they are selling for like 40-50 min wholesale. How much do you think LLL.in or LLL.co.in could sustain? The whole market is driven by unlogical optimism due to the LLLL.com.

LLLL.com buyout was logical, NNNN.com buy was logical, its .com. Number 1 extention by far, it`s global, cheap to reg, eveyrone even outside of the domaining industry knows about it and has lots of end users.

Honestly people, if you want get into a boom, Premium LLLL.net is acceptable, NNNNN.com is acceptable(read up more about this, you`ll be surprised at it`s potentional unrealized by many still now)

But LLL.co.in, NNN.co.in, LLLL.org or random thinking of a completely buyout of LLLL.net including random ones and expect it to boom is nonsense. It will not sustain itself with the reg fees. Not for the current foreseeable future that is.

 

[raredn.com]

With the Recent boom of the LLLL.com everyone is looking new opportunities to invest in the so call next boom.

We got a whole bunch of people going after the LLL.in market which is all bought out, the NNNNN.com which is also all bought out and now there`s people talking about an LLLL.net buyout, NNN.co.in buyout, LLL.co.in buyout, Premium LLLLL.com buyou and even some premium LLLL.org buyout.

Honestly, guys wake the frick up. I`m speaking on the behalf of all domainers. We are just collectively dumping all our money and giving it to those large domain register with all these buyouts. What happens with the buyouts? Most of the time you just trade amongst yourself hoping it will boom but chances is the it will just collapse when people renewal year starts to come around.

So many people are just putting too much money into markets that don`t weight out in terms of risk to return. Your 10 fold return with LLL.co.in will never happen, at least not in the next 10 years unless India conquers the world. And even then you won`t get it. Look at what happen to .cn with growing china and huge population. It went no where, and even .us is not worth that much. LLL.us has been up for that long and they are selling for like 40-50 min wholesale. How much do you think LLL.in or LLL.co.in could sustain? The whole market is driven by unlogical optimism due to the LLLL.com.

LLLL.com buyout was logical, NNNN.com buy was logical, its .com. Number 1 extention by far, it`s global, cheap to reg, eveyrone even outside of the domaining industry knows about it and has lots of end users.

Honestly people, if you want get into a boom, Premium LLLL.net is acceptable, NNNNN.com is acceptable(read up more about this, you`ll be surprised at it`s potentional unrealized by many still now)

But LLL.co.in, NNN.co.in, LLLL.org or random thinking of a completely buyout of LLLL.net including random ones and expect it to boom is nonsense. It will not sustain itself with the reg fees. Not for the current foreseeable future that is.

So using your logic, basically you are saying all the buyouts have been acceptable so far except LLL.co.in, NNN.co.in, LLLL.org

So what have people done wrong apart from those 3? Sorry doesn't make much sense:

You say: 'guys wake the frick up' in one sentence after talking about the buyouts that have happend

Then you say next quote: "LLLL.com buyout was logical, NNNN.com buy was logical, its .com. Number 1 extention by far, it`s global, cheap to reg, eveyrone even outside of the domaining industry knows about it and has lots of end users. Honestly people, if you want get into a boom, Premium LLLL.net is acceptable, NNNNN.com is acceptable(read up more about this, you`ll be surprised at it`s potentional unrealized by many still now)"

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[Mark]

It's called speculation ... It's been going on in Every Industry of the World for as long as there has been Industries. Sometimes it pays off - Sometimes it doesn't ...

I'll agree many times the Hype is just too much on the latest Fad or Trends - But it won't change

 

[YaaDoo]

I`m saying that because of the LLLL.com, there`s way too much hype for a next boom. And too many people here and there are buying blocks of 100s and 1000s right and left and trying to get other people to join them.

Notthing is going to boom like this, market is spread too thin, only people benefiting from this is the domain companies. And it seems like its becoming a trend, so I`m saying stop buying ridiculous stuff like LLL.co.in. You`ll just waste your money. I would not even consider LLL.in personally.

Only think I see that has potential is NNNNN.com and Premium LLLL.net for both short term and long term.

 

[Red Rock]

We all have our favorites, and our hopes.
I am glad there is such diversification.
If we were all fighting for the exact same type of domains, there would only be a handful of domain owners.
This unique opportunity to carve our own niches, is what makes domaining so exciting to everyone involved.
I'm glad there are people buying XQJZ...and I'm also glad they are making $$$,
As soon as that niche is dried out, maybe they will come buy some of my crap!
LOL!!!

 

[raredn.com]

I am not a buyout fan myself, but I am a fan of high quality variety LLLLL.com 5 letter.com, that and LLLL.com, apart from that I am not an enthusiast for the other names mentioned

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[rkbdomain]

I`m saying that because of the LLLL.com, there`s way too much hype for a next boom. And too many people here and there are buying blocks of 100s and 1000s right and left and trying to get other people to join them.

Notthing is going to boom like this, market is spread too thin, only people benefiting from this is the domain companies. And it seems like its becoming a trend, so I`m saying stop buying ridiculous stuff like LLL.co.in. You`ll just waste your money. I would not even consider LLL.in personally.

Only think I see that has potential is NNNNN.com and Premium LLLL.net for both short term and long term.

I think the valid point that is being made is for people to think carefully about whether a buyout makes sense. It is possible that simply having a buyout will cause prices to rise, and therefore there is some logic to buyouts for buyouts sake. But those are very risky and it is possible that if there is no use for the domains, either as traffic or for end-users, there won't be any long-term value there, buyout or no. For domains where there are end users and traffic, NNNNN.com and LLLL.com being recent buyouts that fit this category, I think values are going to continue rising over time, especially as internet use in foreign countries, and China in particular, continues to skyrocket. This is not to say NNN.co.in won't also be a great buy, but I just don't know whether numerics are big in that market and whether they will get type-in traffic or end-user interest. If people study the market and come to a reasoned conclusion that there is value in it, then it could be a wise risk to take. But simply plunging your money in to some random domain type because there is a buyout potential may not be a wise move. Just encouraging people to think that's all.

 

[equity78]

Who was it that appointed you supreme being, Do you think anyone cares what you think is the only thing worth anything?

WOW

I would not even consider LLL.in personally.

WHO CARES I am sure Indians would

People make money in this business everyday in all kinds of niches. Because someone has no interest or knowledge about a niche does not make a blanket statement right.

All types in domaining.

 

[mwzd]

Yeah a buyout for a buyouts sake is a complete waste of money. A good domain is good independent of a buyout.

Then you say - LLLL.net buyout is ok!! How? If you can't find an end user for xqjz .com how the .net going to sell?

I agree with the sentiment but sticking to .com is cool if you have a time machine. I'd take my prices.ws or fiscal.in over myfinancialinfoportal.com anyday. As a developer or a domainer.

 

[MJ]

I agree completely. This all reminds me of those stock email spams that come out saying "buy this stock, we got a tip it is going to go up in price!". Then people buy the stock, it rises, and the only people who make money are the people who sent out the email. Some people bought out some LLL.in and encouraged everyone else to buy them becuase it would increase their premium LLL.in the original people who bought them own.

The same cycle will go on for .asia and all other extentions. 3L and 4L honestly wont mean much in a few years anyway - when the world is run by google and searching. All your 4L.com's wont be worth much unless developed and people search for your site.

Personally, I want all you guys to buy out LLLL.com/net/org because it makes my LLLL.com's even more valuable that I picked up for reg fee. But as a friend, I would never tell them to pick up an "XHQR" "PZOY" etc type domain. You are better off registering a domain at reg value IMO.

 

[kemjika11]

Since you claimed LLL.co.in are worthless investments, are you saying LLL.co.in(s) that get traffic are useless too? because they are LLL.co.in too. If an LLL.co.in can make even half of its reg fee in revenue in a year, its not a bad choice to keep it. LLL.in are going to pick up very soon, and you better stop frontin and grab yourself a few. LLL.co.in i agree are weaker than LLL.in to say the least, but i believe they will experience residual demand from the maxed out LLL.in(s).

 

[MJ]

Since you claimed LLL.co.in are worthless investments, are you saying LLL.co.in(s) that get traffic are useless too? because they are LLL.co.in too. If an LLL.co.in can make even half of its reg fee in revenue in a year, its not a bad choice to keep it. LLL.in are going to pick up very soon, and you better stop frontin and grab yourself a few. LLL.co.in i agree are weaker than LLL.in to say the least, but i believe they will experience residual demand from the maxed out LLL.in(s).

Nothing is worthless. You can make millions selling rocks if you are good enough. We will see how the market goes... it all depends on other domainers stealing domains from companies before the companies and small businesses can buy them. Horrible world we live in, eh? But like the original author said.. thats all we are doing.. buying up like mad in hopes of money. In the end, we are hurting ourselfs, corporations, small start-up companies, and private individuals. We are depriving them of their domains

 

[YaaDoo]

Do you think anyone cares what you think is the only thing worth anything?

WOW

Equity if you don`t care what I think then don`t read, and why even bother posting? Apparently, some people do like to hear what I have to say.

Since you claimed LLL.co.in are worthless investments, are you saying LLL.co.in(s) that get traffic are useless too?

kemjika, no that is not worthless, but when you classify something as LLL or NNNN. You look at the market. Of course if you got like Business.in I`m not going to say it`s worthless, but am I going to say LLLLLLLL.in is worthless? Yes

You clearly don`t get the point when people say LLLL or NNNN. Your looking it as a whole. LLLL.com is not worthless, what ever combo you got it has somewhat of value and people will pay for something for it. You can`t say the same for LLLL.in as a whole even Cars.in is a LLLL.in

Get the drift?

 

[Alex]

I agree there are too many buyouts. A buyout won't raise the end user potential of some domains. It will remain a domainer token.

But some speculations paid off, and people now think that a buyout automatically will raise prices. People have too many expectations from buyouts.

 

[hugegrowth]

I think people are just following the trends of .com over the last few years. Short domains are in demand and have been going up in value. People used to think LLL.com and NNN.com wouldn't have much value, now look. If the trend is short domains in .com, then there's a good chance it will be the future trend in country code extensions as the internet grows.

The domain market has been robust and the internet is relatively young, so what looks cheap or crap today could be gold in 1, 2, 3 years.

LLL.us may be a certain value today (40 to 50 min wholesale?), but I bet in 1, 2, 3 years they'll be worth more, not less.

LLL and NNN in country code extensions aren't a longshot speculation, they are nice short domains. And with .in and .co.in you're talking about a growing country with huge population.

Everyone speculates in what they believe in. You have to be careful not to reg too much or risk troubles at renewal time. I think everyone just has to think about what they buy and the reasons for it, and watch out not to overextend yourself. We all have different ideas about what are valuable domains.

 

[cache]

YaaDoo,
if you don't have .in and say bad things about .in, of course those people who are holding .in will not be happy.

 

[YaaDoo]

Ya, I suppose they wouldn't be happy to hear that but maybe it will slow them down on regging. I had like 10 LLL.in releatively goods ones which I just recently dumped.

 

[ChineseDomain]

I don't think that the LLLL.com and NNNNN.com are worth the buyout (though they are all gone at now), nor the LLL.in or LLL.co.in.

 

[HBK216]

Who was it that appointed you supreme being, Do you think anyone cares what you think is the only thing worth anything?

WOW


WHO CARES I am sure Indians would

People make money in this business everyday in all kinds of niches. Because someone has no interest or knowledge about a niche does not make a blanket statement right.

All types in domaining.

Spot on! :imho:

 

[mwzd]

Equity if you don`t care what I think then don`t read, and why even bother posting? Apparently, some people do like to hear what I have to say.

And some people might want to read what he has to say. I'd say he has as much right (if not more) to post here as you do.

Of course if you got like Business.in I`m not going to say it`s worthless

But it is worthless - http://www.inregistry.net/policies/dispute_resolution/dispute_decisions/business.pdf

Partial knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Get the drift?

We get your drift, just don't club every domain of a tld as one group. LLL.in might be valueless to you, just like LLL.ca is valueless to me (can't satisfy nexus for .ca) but they're worth something to the person regging them.