Domain Squat

[sker]

Heya,

I see many posts about someone registering their intended domain name by having access to the registrar's search logs.

I always concur that such activities do exist. Now i found another possible domain squat vulnerability.

Just after i post a list of my domain names for sale on namepros couple of days ago, i found 80% of those names .org extension been reged. The whois results show "Not Found".

Then i searched again after 5 days, some of those names .org became available again. All those are low traffic names.

Does anyone ever encountered such kind of incident ?

To fool whoever those squatters are, i posted only not very valuable names on my portfolio. I'm always very sceptic about trumpeting my portfolio. If some really interested on my names, they'll bid through sedo or through the link on my parked page.

All the names which i recon as brandable are listed on my personal portfolio with all the TLD extensions been reged.

I was testing the water here, it is proven that this is shark infested water. Squatters are one of us here.

They shall be hanged upside down like in the movie "Alien v Predator"

V

 

[fonzie_007]

It seems to me that is some party is scraping these lists off of NP and regging lots of the domains, we should start throwing in a few "bad" domains in the bunch. The best solution may be to have a locked area of the forum that you need to register to be a part of (over and above normal membership registration).

 

[nRnF]

Why call them squatters ?

I think "traffic fishing" couldn't be concidered squatting.
Many many of expired domains go through the "traffic fishing" net, and if no considerable revenue is found within 3-4 days they are just returned to the registry.

This affecting portfolios posted (unregged ext.) is rare, but totally legitime.

Take into concideration, that those names are not regged to sell them to the .com owner. They are regged to take part in the traffic they might generate. The .com ownwr could (should) have done this anyway.

Regarding the logs, this is a common feature for example at GD, "see what other users searched"

Most domaineers (incl .me) are not based on ethics with revenue in mind, we are based on revenue and may concidder ethics

It seems to me that is some party is scraping these lists off of NP and regging lots of the domains, we should start throwing in a few "bad" domains in the bunch.

Why ? I really dont understand. Just because another one had the idea & resources to do that.
On the other hand it would have absolutely ZERO effect, as reged names are returned to registry within the defined time slice without having to pay reg. fees (100% refund) if not generating enough traffic the first 3-4 days.

Also doing this by hand scanning NP posts or whatever is in any case a loss.
Only way to succed in traffic fishing is 100% automatization (usually drop lists)

 

[RogueWriter]

Most domaineers (incl .me) are not based on ethics with revenue in mind, we are based on revenue and may concidder ethics

I don't think you should be all that proud of not allowing ethics to guide your life, nor do I think you should be speaking for other domainers regarding their ethics.

In this case, though, I don't think it is a matter of ethics, just a fact that, once you post an idea on a forum, people are bound to expand your idea, and try to improve upon it. The domains listed were probably quite good, and the other domainer wanted a piece of the action.

 

[sker]

In this case, though, I don't think it is a matter of ethics, just a fact that, once you post an idea on a forum, people are bound to expand your idea, and try to improve upon it. The domains listed were probably quite good, and the other domainer wanted a piece of the action.

Yes, It is very true. Ppl tend to innovate things from an already innovated product.

We had a discussion on this on the other thread.

Grilla also stated that it is absolutely normal for ppl to get ideas from other's domain names. But what makes my nerves bulging is the attitude of these ppl. They're scavenger like hyenas. The look for vulnerable targets and hunt on them. This deteriorates the confidence of other domainers to post their ideas and opinions fearing their ideas will be exploited in wrong measures.

We're talking about trust and honesty and confidence.

 

[Dave_Z]

Well, there are different and all kinds of people on this earth. Expect nothing
less than that.

It's all about business and revenue.

Grrr...

 

[nRnF]

I don't think you should be all that proud of not allowing ethics to guide your life, nor do I think you should be speaking for other domainers regarding their ethics....

Never said that, just said that there may be different prioritys set.
buisiness - ethics
or
ethics - buisiness

On the bottom line the mixture and prioritiy of both is what everyone has to figure out by itself.

And again, it seems that the example sker talks about is a case of "traffic fishing" (domain doesn't matter) and not "squatting" (domain matters).
IMO two different pair of shoes.