discuss Domain discussion more detailed than Reg of Day and Appraisals

[Want2learn]

I wanted to discuss some domains. I think Reg of the Day is good for what it is and appraisals are good for what they are! I wanted a space where we could really talk domains. I have selfish motives bc I do want to talk about my domains . . . But I want to discuss your domains as well. Feel free to jump in with any constructive feedback that you have.

 

[Kuffy]

My problem with special needs names is that I can't see how to monetise them. Obviously they are great for social projects, but how do you earn avertising revenue from them?

 

[nomen]

My problem with special needs names is that I can't see how to monetise them. Obviously they are great for social projects, but how do you earn avertising revenue from them?

Thinking the same. But if the issue is big enough still think there's inherent value in the name. Although must say that I haven't owned any 'condition' domains ever.

 

[Haykay2005]

This is the problem. Online casino slot machines are called "slots", The singular doesn't have casino associations, or does it?. Each game will have a multiplier, and this is a gamble to increase winnings. However, if you are discussing various virtual slot machines, then the plural of multipliers seems to be more relevant.

Do you guys see SlotBear.com suitable for online casino sites ? Just thinking towards casino direction now

 

[frank-germany]

While those are theoretically "domainer" questions .. they really aren't .. as a domainer it's really about the numbers. I can't say for sure 100%, but I think "gay" is one core group among LGTB .. people rarely identify themselves as "LGTB" unless it's in rare cases to fight some law. People identify more as "Gay" or "Lesbian" or whatever else.

Other issue with LGBT is that now some people add a Q at the end .. that effectively halves the effectiveness as a domain.

But in reality this sort of specific question is exactly what I meant earlier about having outside knowledge and applying it to domaining.

LGTB means essentially Lesbian AND Gay AND Trans AND Bi ... for the most part I see "AND" as a division to the value of a domain.

Unless it's a very common term like CatsAndDogs or ApplesAndOranges, then AND usually drastically hurts the value of a domain because while you're trying to be 2 things .. but effectively you're neither. CupcakesAndPie might sound like it's worth the sum of Cupcakes plus Pie .. but in reality it's a fraction of either.

Obviously LGBT is indeed something .. so the AND's don't really apply all that much ... but the theory saying LGBT isn't really any ONE thing would hold true for most commercial uses. For the reason I stated above in that most would identify more as Gay or Lesbian.

Maybe a better way to convey what I'm saying would be if you had a site called NorthAmericanHousing.com .. it's not really a thing .. it's more CanadianHousing + UnitedStatesHousing + Mexicanhousing .. but you can't merge them into NorthAmericanHousing because the housing markets don't really go by continents .. despite the fact that continents actually do exist! lol


It's not a bad domain though .. there is enough general LGBT unified business activities to say LGBT can be considered a single key-term .. but it's a very week one and I'd say you're correct in thinking it was a fraction of "gay" or "lesbian" .. probably not as bad as 10% though.

so I guess

LGBTshirt.com

not so bad?

 

[Haykay2005]

You can brand anything ( well almost ). I remember the follow-the-bear larger advert from a few years ago. I gather it was very successful, but I can't remeber the larger. Slot bear could be a good name if you are going to dress in a bear costume and play the slots. If you are just putting together websites, then you need something with established appeal imho.

I thought as much. Thanks for your understanding and contribution

 

[Kuffy]

You have to decide if you want to hit one market, and use domain names to help you, orif you want to trade in domain names. If you want to hit one market, then you can register throw away names to promote your main sites. This sort of thing is done for payday loans for example. If you are dealing in names. then you need names that will appeal to buyers without you having to develop them. I'm more interested in investing in names, and using them for income. Of course the higher the income, the greater the value of the name.

Today's project is human growth hormone sales, and I managed to find a .com as the base site. It took quite a while, as the market is quite high value and not much is available. Also I picked up human-growth-hormone.info for a couple of dollars. This is a throw away feeder name, and probably not worth $5 imho, although the .com is up for sale at $4,500 or so.

 

[ultradog]

Isn't HGH still illegal w/o a prescription? in US, I mean?

 

[Ategy]

I am curious what you think about SpecificLearningDisability.com. I want to say that the parents who PMd me as parents of kids with a disability get this topic. And Im unaware if you have any familiarity with this subject, but for some reason I suspect you have a wide range of knowledge.

Please appraise SpecificLearningDisability.com

It's ReallyTooLong.com! lol

Seriously though .. it's rather long .. plus I'd think that if someone were creating a site about a "specific" disability, they would want that specific one named or referred to in some way in the URL.

That being said .. I don't know the field at all .. so if it is a specific term that actually represents something (not just a group of things) then it could have a bit of value .. but then I'd go back to my first comment in that's it's seriously long.

I'm thinking little to no value .. but you've proven us wrong with your sales so far .. so who knows ... lol .. i'll just wish you good luck with them!

MAIN POST

The problem with your math here is that theory says decent portfolios sell at a 2% rate .. so say you have 100x domains you bought at $100 .. you'd only make about $600 per year ... with at least $850 renewal fees. So you're losing $20 per year. Plus that's just to break even on the year .. then add to that the fact you never see any part of the original $10,000 investment. So after year 1 you're at -$10,250. Year 2 -$10,500. etc etc

Now obviously those are just averages .. but I think you know what I mean.


Also ... I think the problem here is that you're asking general domainers for advice on a domain where the only possible value lies in the technical terms of a specific industry niche. The fact none of us understood the term goes to show that this domain could only possibly sell to a very small refined set of end users. Not the end of the world if it's a good niche that pays and is actively looking for domains. However in this case my guess is that your knowledge of the niche might be blinding you to it's potential (or more specifically it's lack of potential). Obviously since I don't know the niche I could very well be wrong .. I'm just guestimating based on your explanations.

Don't feel too bad ... I've definitely done this myself .. and still do to a certain degree (as I'm sure most of us have). It's easier to imagine a cool end-use or usefully informative site on domains related to niches we personally know and understand ourselves.


I think sometimes a good imagination while sometimes being a huge advantage in domaining ... can also be a dangerous hindrance .. as we too easily see cool end uses for various domain names and thereby artificially inflate their values .. which ends up making us more likely to buy them at too high a price .. or even to buy domains that really don't have enough value to have been worth buying at any price.


Again though .. you could always get lucky .. it only takes one person to buy a domain .. but if you're looking at domaining in the long term you need to take a step back to look at the big picture and law of averages. I'm at that point as well .. it's hard to say no sometimes when you're growing your portfolio ... lol

Essentially you'll need to outbound this is you want to see it's true value .. I don't see the chances being very high of anyone in the industry going out looking for that name specifically (although it could happen)

 

[Want2learn]

motel.tips is a nice hack! Who are potential end users?

 

[Want2learn]

Share your thoughts about XYZcoin.com

The first thought that came to my mind was, at xyzcoin I am getting the coins at the end of the line, those very difficult specialty coins that are expensive, a true specialty coin shop.

 

[Kuffy]

I think the GEO plus Doctor or Doctors would be best. Make your sector specific names as broad as possible for more potential end users. If its only limited to family practices that take alot of doctors out of the equation. If I had to be more specific because plain old doctors was take I'd aim at Specialities that are lucrative to the doctor. Surgeons, Dermatology, Cosmetic Surgery names, Ortho, Neurologists, Sports medicine, Therapists & Counseling, Cancer. Gyno etc.

I don't buy many names for resale. I'm more interested in building an investment portfolio, and so I look for names that will create some income. I'm quite keen on my limited membership forum - Fit to Talk I've disabled registration though, because you seem to get a few hundred spammers every day who try to join to post links. I'll use this to pick up some traffic for the dedicated sales sites. Of course, any name is for sale at the right price.

 

[Cdomains]

Adding the keyword "street" to another keyword as a brandable only works for a very, very limited kind of name.

99.99999% of these types of names will never sell.

 

[TRY]

The $64 question with the bolded part. I agree! I am curious to discover the commercial appeal!

The underlined portion may be true 98% of the time . . . long domains arent great. But in this case it is wrong. I have explained ad nauseam in other threads why that is the case (I imagine it does not interest you, so I won't bore you). You said you aren't familiar with special ed, so we ca just disagree
I do appreciate the feedback nevertheless!

End users, that's you best bet.

 

[hawkeye]

If you saw cartime.com sell for XXXX and you could get timecar.com for less than 100, would you?

No. I don't think there is a time that is implied by a car, or a car that travel thru time. (yet) Just because a domain has the same words in it just backwards, doesn't mean it has the same meaning or even close to the same meaning, or there's a usage for it.

 

[Want2learn]

TurnkeyRemodels is essentially saying the Turnkey didn't work and had to be redone. It at least suggests what was the turnkey (homes) Perhaps a remodel company where you (home owner) do nothing

The beauties don't say or allude to what is the turnkey object. Which may be a turn off to an enduser

I suppose this is the beauty of combining. I literally thought that the a home needed to be remodeled and then was a turnkey home. That is what TurnkeyRemodel.com is all about right now!

BeautifulTurnkey.com . . . hopefully a builder of homes that are beautiful turnkeys!

 

[jideofor]

I used to work with a mens health sponsor, and I've just applied to re-open an account. They provide white label sites, and I want to set one up on a recent name of mine - MensDietSupplements.com They provide a SEO site, and you provide the domain name. You get a percentage of any revenue generated. Of course you have to do a bit to drive some traffic to the site. Once I've got it set up, I'll post a link. This afternoon I set up a white label tube site, and the info is in the adult section. I haven't been able to view the site as I'm on public WiFi

Please can you PM the white label site so that I can partake in it? Thanks in advance. I have some knowledge of promotions as an IM'er.

 

[Kuffy]

It's the same concept with websites - hosting, design, and even the domain name - usually a sub-domain though

 

[Duncan729]

86420.co and 97531.co my most recent registrations.

 

[Kuffy]

Going back to names with qualifying words, I've just reg'd tryHGH.com - it's a good short name, but I'm not sure how the "try" prefix will work. Human growth hormones is a very competitive market, so a short and relevant name is a useful find, as long as it works of course.

 

[Kuffy]

I used to do well until they changed the rules for Blackjack. MIT and IBM ran a simulation of a few million games back in the 1960s. It was when the fall joint computer conference was in Las Vegas, and they published the results in a magazine called Datamation. So many people were winning that they changed the rules. Optimum play gave you and edge of around 2% against the banker.

 

[Kuffy]

I own PokerBlow.com

That has negative connotations for me, I'm not sure I need to know ways to blow my money paying poker.

 

[Want2learn]

Now that could be a new fashion trend. A top hat with castellations.

Well you and @Recons.Com have been very helpful lately. If anyone should own impulsive.com or the shortened specificlearningdisability.com via SLD.com it should be me. Possible dumbfillintheblank.com.

I feel like I'm at a confession now and I'm not Catholic.

RateYourPlumber.com
RateYourDrink.com
RateYourGynecologist.com
RateYourTruck.com
RateYourWorth.com
RateYourDomain.com


Maybe there are already too many rating services. Maybe my choices are too specific. They are 3 words but the RateYour feels like one word bc it doesn't sound right taking your out.

The rate your domain was kind of a funny in my mind. However, if we can ever rate rank appraise domains why not that site?

Rate your worth can go multiple ways. Worth as a human. Worth as an employee, boss, parent. If rate yourself has hope I believe worth does as well.

Other than the argument that these domains could be hand reg and therefore no one wanted, I think the domains are solid.

Thoughts

 

[karmaco]

My thoughts are I would like knowyourworth or know fill in the blank's worth better than rate your worth or fill a different two word combo with rate. No one wants their personal worth rated but things rated yes but these are pretty generic.

The only one I personally think is of value and what do I know is rate your domain and possibly rate your truck but even that one not sure on.

I hope you've moved onto buying any good two words or shorter ones. The 3 word long ones you have need some balance

RateYourPlumber is ok but Angie's list and big reviews sites do all that now

 

[Want2learn]

My thoughts are I would like knowyourworth or know fill in the blank's worth better than rate your worth or fill a different two word combo with rate. No one wants their personal worth rated but things rated yes but these are pretty generic.

The only one I personally think is of value and what do I know is rate your domain and possibly rate your truck but even that one not sure on.

I hope you've moved onto buying any good two words or shorter ones. The 3 word long ones you have need some balance

RateYourPlumber is ok but Angie's list and big reviews sites do all that now

I like knowyourworth better as well! If RateYourWorth is a lemon, time for me to roll up my sleeve, burn my forearms, and crank out some lemonade! I can rate your worth though in other ways than personally. For example, if I rated your worth as a person, Id be treading lightly. But maybe I am rating the worth of positions. And not just at my McDonalds, for instance. Rate your worth could be rating jobs, degrees, schools . . .the "your" in this case is fluid! But please know I agree with your initial sentiment. I guess I just see someone logging on to rateyourworth.com and then entering their degree, and a number spitting out. Or a picture of their girlfriend Or job title. Maybe in an industry . . . what is a stock broker's worth in financial industry?

Funny that rateyourdomain was best in your estimation . . . being on a remaining type forum!!

I thought about Angie's List . . . Ive never used it. Might be great. Might be a need for others to compete with her. I do like rateyourplumber dot com.

Still shocked rateyourtruck was available. Maybe it was available for a reason . . . kinda like status . . . ya know some folks that are single, are single for a reason . . .

I still like rateyourdrink, could be great for bars and clubs!

I just thought if a woman were looking for a gynecologist she wouldn't be looking at family physicians. Felt like it was solid enough!

In other news I did manage to restrain myself a whole heck of a lot. but I did reg these . . .

financeguarantor.com
financialguarantor.com


based on seeing this:


financetechnology.com 4,588 USD 2017-06-26 BuyDomains
financeadvantage.com 166 USD 2017-06-19 Dynadot
financepass.com 180 USD 2017-05-10 GoDaddy
financeall.com 2,500 USD 2017-02-16 BuyDomains
financereference.com 1,088 USD 2017-02-14 BuyDomains
financelately.com 400 USD 2017-01-16 Flippa
financexpert.com 299 USD 2017-01-14 GoDaddy
financedubai.com 147 USD 2017-01-14 GoDaddy

financeguaranteed.com 5,262 USD 2007-12-22 Sedo


Now for the really embarrassing part . . .

I went to Google. I saw this:
Volume: 170/mo | CPC: $11.76 | Competition: 0.16
and this:
About 7,800,000 results

I am not sure what the volume, cpc, and comp mean. I looked them up. Cost per click . . . but what does that mean? And I decided to reg those 2 because I had not seen CPC that high before. High might be bad, I have no idea

 

[karmaco]

LOL yes I saw the movie. but wasn't recently. LA could also be an abbreviation for Louisiana and possibly other things.