Discuss your Epik Experience!

[Dandelion]

I think Epik is building the best ever Domain Lander in the history of domaining, and it really needs to be talked about extensively. That's why I am creating this discussion thread. A lot of thought process really goes into the project. And I can see (for the first time) a landing page that is built from the stand point of domainers rather than for just the marketplace itself.

Everything you have ever dreamt of getting or seeing in a professional landing page can be found in the new Epik marketplace landing page design.

Some of my Favorites Features:

1. The ability to optimize your "domain for sale" landing page to actually rank on Google, displaying your sales pitch/domain description. I just did that with few of my generic domain names such as ASAP.TV, targeting certain keywords, and they are showing pretty well on Google. That's a huge plus in my marketing effort.

2. Being able to change background image is another huge one for me. If you are good with pictures and images, you will surely find this very useful. I did that with Nagasaki.org and the result was truly amazing, showing the city of Nagasaki right at the background.

There are too many positive features and I don't want to mention all of them, all alone

So I am leaving you guys to share and discuss what you loves most or dislike about the new Epik marketplace and the landing pages.

The only negative for me is the checkout process. There are too many terms and conditions buttons to tick before checking out. It will be nice if they can streamline those into one beautiful big button

They also need to place the checkout button directly under the payment options. Right now it is awkwardly place somewhere below at the sidebar, which I don't find cool at all.

Sales experience is also welcomed in this discussion. I haven't had any sells so far at Epik because I started using the marketplace just recently, but the future is looking so bright.

 

[Rob Monster]

“TrustRatings” best name, sounds better than Trustpilot.

Good luck, Rob!

I loved the domain -- bought it from a NamePros member in a multi-domain deal. It was bought for this specific idea.

The other domain that came with that deal was HighCouture.com. I would happily sell that one but I liked the sound of it.

 

[DanSanchez]

Another successful transaction with Epik Marketplace, the buyer is extremely happy and I was expedited crypto payout the same HOUR. It's been a slow few months for sales, this helps tremendously. The SSL landers are worth their bits in coin, buyer had no issues navigating and making payment. Rob as usual, goes above and beyond for us, I am very grateful for his service.

It's a Saturday afternoon, for anyone reading this after the fact.

Totally unheard of in this industry to encounter a company this dedicated to adding value, true value!

 

[Rob Monster]

Another successful transaction with Epik Marketplace, the buyer is extremely happy and I was expedited crypto payout the same HOUR. It's been a slow few months for sales, this helps tremendously. The SSL landers are worth their bits in coin, buyer had no issues navigating and making payment. Rob as usual, goes above and beyond for us, I am very grateful for his service.

It's a Saturday afternoon, for anyone reading this after the fact.

Totally unheard of in this industry to encounter a company this dedicated to adding value, true value!

This was a multi-4 figure domain sale through our marketplace. The buyer used PayPal. The seller redeemed Masterbucks to BTC. The whole process did take less than 1 hour.

Here is why it worked well:

- The seller is known at Epik

- The seller has a portfolio at Epik.

Although we did not know the buyer, we trust the seller which allows us to bypass manual fraud review of a new buyer.

 

[TCK]

Although we did not know the buyer, we trust the seller which allows us to bypass manual fraud review of a new buyer.

How does knowing the seller mean that the buyer it automatically trusted and doesn't need a fraud review? Those are 2 very different unrelated parties. It may have worked that time but you are taking a risk.

 

[DanSanchez]

How does knowing the seller mean that the buyer it automatically trusted and doesn't need a fraud review? Those are 2 very different unrelated parties. It may have worked that time but you are taking a risk.

The buyer has purchased from me using Escrow.com in the past, he owns an agency and his Paypal is business verified. The risk is very limited given the domain is worth WAY more than what he paid and it is locked at Epik for at least 60 days. Finally the buyer is very impressed with Epik and seems to want to transfer his domains there permanently from Godaddy.

 

[Rob Monster]

How does knowing the seller mean that the buyer it automatically trusted and doesn't need a fraud review? Those are 2 very different unrelated parties. It may have worked that time but you are taking a risk.

The seller knows the buyer.

See "Friend of a Friend":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend_of_a_friend

It is a way to build out trust networks.

And as we can see, it pays to make leaps of faith:

Finally the buyer is very impressed with Epik and seems to want to transfer his domains there permanently from Godaddy.

I did the same thing for a Nigerian back in July:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/th...most-lost-sale-and-how-we-overcame-it.1139281

And now we have nearly 500 clients in Nigeria. That growth largely came off the back of one leap of faith.

Two years ago our largest client was a wealthy Qatari. Everything about that deal looked shady but I trusted my gut and he ended up being a huge client.

I try very hard to treat people as individuals. It takes a lot more work but it pays out in the end. This is also the reason so many Epik staff are active on NP now.

Epik is built on the model of a Swiss Bank. That is not so much a statement of privacy, but more of a statement of relationship banking. Epik is a domain bank.

 

[TCK]

The buyer has purchased from me using Escrow.com in the past, he owns an agency and his Paypal is business verified. The risk is very limited given the domain is worth WAY more than what he paid and it is locked at Epik for at least 60 days. Finally the buyer is very impressed with Epik and seems to want to transfer his domains there permanently from Godaddy.

In this case, Rob should have phrased it differently.

Although we did not know the buyer, we trust the seller which allows us to bypass manual fraud review of a new buyer.

If what you state is accurate, then the above quote should have indicated that the buyer was verified or at least known to Epik via previous communication and transaction history (Escrow.com) verified by Epik. Since Rob did not confirm this, again we are going by hearsay. The price vs value argument is moot.

 

[DanSanchez]

In this case, Rob should have phrased it differently.



If what you state is accurate, then the above quote should have indicated that the seller was verified or at least known to Epik via previous communication and transaction history (Escrow.com) verified by Epik. Since Rob did not confirm this, again we are going by hearsay. The price vs value argument is moot.

You are assuming that an agency owner would commit fraud for a relatively small amount of money, lose his domain to Epik and I would keep the proceeds, which would risk thousands of domains at Epik.

The advantages of Epik keep this a low-risk transaction, they hold all the domains. Perhaps you are used to dealing with Escrow.com, like I was.

It is refreshing to see a true escrow in the works, isn't it?

 

[TCK]

You are assuming that an agency owner would commit fraud for a relatively small amount of money, lose his domain to Epik and I would keep the proceeds, which would risk thousands of domains at Epik.

No not at all. I believe in "trust but verify". If the buyer had a history with you then the verify part would be very quick and simple.

The advantages of Epik keep this a low-risk transaction, they hold all the domains. Perhaps you are used to dealing with Escrow.com, like I was.

It is refreshing to see a true escrow in the works, isn't it?

To be clear, this is not "escrow". This is a basic marketplace transaction. You can do this on your own without Epik or anyone else.

 

[DanSanchez]

No not at all. I believe in "trust but verify". If the buyer had a history with you then the verify part would be very quick and simple.



To be clear, this is not "escrow". This is a basic marketplace transaction. You can do this on your own without Epik or anyone else.

It absolutely is "escrow" when two parties need a third party to facilitate a deal.

Definition of Escrow:
Money, property, a deed, or a bond put into the custody of a third party for delivery to a grantee only after the fulfillment of the conditions specified.

Epik facilitated the deal and over-delivered for me. That is my whole point. No other company is doing this!

And I do handle some sales on my own website using BTCPay Server. This buyer was not familiar with bitcoin. I personally do not accept US Dollars anymore for several reasons.

 

[TCK]

Money, property, a deed, or a bond put into the custody of a third party for delivery to a grantee only after the fulfillment of the conditions specified.

Who is the third party in this case and what are the fulfilled conditions specified?

And when you sell on GoDaddy/Afternic or another aftermarket is that also escrow?

 

[oldtimer]

Recently Rob received over 200 "likes" in the Epik's promotions thread, now there are 3 people who seem to be unhappy about Epik, that seems to be less than the normal ratio of complaints for any company. Also Rob deserves to be given a little more time to get all the bugs and problems worked out of all these new services that he has created to help domainers before being criticized so harshly. IMO

 

[JB Lions]

Thanks @Embrand.

I addressed your concern here and you acknowledged that the summary is factually correct. I call it a success story but for each his own.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/if...g-time-and-money.1119508/page-10#post-7346765

As for the whole Nazi thing, I am obviously not that. The point I was making is that anyone can be accused ignorantly. It is touched upon here:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...and-rob-monster.1128748/page-102#post-7384014

Best wishes.

I'm just reading that thread, you said:

Thanks @Embrand.
So, let's be factual about your transaction. It was a MARKETPLACE transaction and not an Escrow transaction.

So is it marketplace transactions that happen at Epik or Escrow transactions? How do they differentiate?
Nevermind, reading your Escrow page. Doing research on the different Escrows out there.

Recently Rob received over 200 "likes" in the Epik's promotions thread, now there are 3 people who seem to be unhappy about Epik, that seems to be less than the normal ratio of complaints for any company. Also Rob deserves to be given a little more time to get all the bugs and problems worked out of all these new services that he has created to help domainers before being criticized so harshly. IMO

I didn't see any harch critisisms. Simply pointing out issues, is exactly that. Every place gets them. The only time I've seen you speak out, is if it's with Epik. People are using them more, I expect more stuff to come up, both good and bad. Normal stuff.

 

[TCK]

Recently Rob received over 200 "likes" in the Epik's promotions thread, now there are 3 people who seem to be unhappy about Epik, that seems to be less than the normal ratio of complaints for any company.

Isn't @Rob Monster buying those likes?

https://www.namepros.com/threads/ep...-hour-mega-thread.1148974/page-7#post-7371548

 

[oldtimer]

The only time I've seen you speak out, is if it's with Epik.

So,

Like the many of the other people here who like the SSL landing pages and platform at Epik and who appreciate the close involvement of Rob and his staff with the domaining comunity I am interested in what is happening with Epik.

 

[TCK]

So,

Like the many of the other people here who like the SSL landing pages and platform at Epik and who appreciate the close involvement of Rob and his staff with the domaining comunity I am interested in what is happening with Epik.

This is not the issue. I don't see anyone complaining about this.

 

[JB Lions]

So,

Like the many of the other people here who like the SSL landing pages and platform at Epik and who appreciate the close involvement of Rob and his staff with the domaining comunity I am interested in what is happening with Epik.

? Yes, that stuff is great. You complain every time somebody brings up an issue with Epik, telling them not to be harsh. People bring up issues with everybody. You compared 200 likes to 3 complaints. The likes are to get cheaper regs.

 

[oldtimer]

This is not the issue. I don't see anyone complaining about this.

They shouldn't be complaining at all as long as I am obiding by the forum rules. Where and how I want to express my opinion is my privilege. IMO

 

[JB Lions]

They shouldn't be complaining at all as long as I am obiding by the forum rules. Where and how I want to express my opinion is my privilege. IMO

Your posts aren't making any sense.

Discuss your Epik Experience!

If somebody has a good experience, they'll say good stuff.

If somebody has a bad experience, they'll say bad stuff.

What does that have to do with you and obiding by the forum rules? I don't even understand what you're saying.

 

[oldtimer]

Your posts aren't making any sense.

Discuss your Epik Experience!

If somebody has a good experience, they'll say good stuff.

If somebody has a bad experience, they'll say bad stuff.

What does that have to do with you and obiding by the forum rules? I don't even understand what you're saying.

So far my experience with Epik has been good, if there are any problems or issues I am not shy to bring them to Rob's attention.