DesktopCatcher software

[Paul123]

Hi everyone.

Just interested to hear if anyone has had any experience of software you can buy for drop catching. With drop catchers all allowing multiple back orders and then going to auction, it makes sense to buy the software if it works ? The cost is around $200 which is a good investment if it catches a few good domains. Maybe it's worth buying a few different software packages to stand a better chance of catching a good domain ?

Any thoughts please ?

Best,
Paul

 

[FPForum]

Thanks @Cdomains @HDmarketing @Arca @Nat Hunt @boziffous @Marko12 @golan and everyone else for being so open about your personal experience with the software and domains you've caught..etc. We all know that many people in this industry prefer to be more on the quiet side of things when it comes to sharing names they chase, catch and sell.

The software has a 7 day FULL refund period and I've never had a problem refunding someone if it didn't work the way they were hoping. I've also done other things like extend trials for people as well. I always try and respond to emails quickly and help anyone just getting setup who might have questions or need any help. Plus, I also wrote a 20 page eBook that I include to get people up and running ASAP without even needing to contact me. That's why I take offense when @AEProgram tries comparing me to a "forex peddler" or someone who is just trying to rip people off. Someone who has never bought the software, spoken to me about it, or anything of that nature is trying to call me a scammer because I made something and am offering it to the public. Other established members come in here and give their personal experience and he calls them "cheerleaders." I know there are lots of scummy websites out there with shady sellers (our industry has been known to have a few of these types of people floating around). But, I think you're mistaken me for someone else because I try not to be to be one of those people. You really have no right saying that about me when you've never bought anything from me...

 

[Arca]

It’s not promised anywhere that DesktopCatcher can beat a backorder. There is no way that it can beat companies like DropCatch and NameJet. It can beat Pheenix occasionally, but that's just because Pheenix don’t work a lot of the time, so you can even beat Pheenix by hand in those cases… When Pheenix works, it can’t beat Pheenix either.

If anyone thinks so, they can try the software and quickly discover that they can’t beat SN/NJ/DC, and get their money back if they just ask within 7 days. They can try it for a whole week at no risk, and find out for themselves exactly what kind of names it can and can’t catch. Even if FPForum was misleading people (which I don't think he is), the people "mislead" can simply get their money back if they find it doesn't perform as expected, so these accusations being made are ridiculous.

The software is for catching low competition names that you believe will not be backordered elsewhere, basically names that may have some value (worth a $9 investment), but will most likely fly under the radar and not be BO'ed. Or people find that they don’t want to pay the backorder cost, and just try to hand reg them instead. It does a great job of securing those names for a cheap price.

I’ve been using it on and off since last fall, depending on what is dropping. For better names I create a backorder at SN/DC, but there are also second tier names that I don’t want to spend more than $9 on. I’ve caught about 55 names since then, which has cost me $500. None of them are amazing, but I have sold 3 of them for a total of $3640 until now, so they have more than paid for the cost of the software + all the registrations I have made with it.

 

[GoKaizen]

DesktopCatcher is 50% off for a lifetime license. That makes it $99.

Use the coupon code – THANKYOU – at checkout.

@FPForum is celebrating 3 years of DC.

 

[Zsolt Bikadi]

That moment you ask yourself, if I created a money making tool, why do I need to get subscribers to use it so I can make money ..

The thing is that we are not the original creator of DesktopCatcher, it was built by @FPForum. We were users of the software and loved it - this is why we bought it and also we want to take it to the next level.

The next level means to build an API that can compete (in some extent) against dropcatching services. We just got ICANN accredited yesterday and start building an exclusive API for DesktopCatcher (and AutoBackorder). Once finished and added to Desktopcatcher, it will drastically improve the catch rate (for the implemented TLDs).

 

[HDmarketing]

Your software will never be able to outrun a registrar.

@AEProgram, you are wrong!

I would like anyone to share one domain that we know registrars went after, decent name that your software caught, it will never happen.

In the last seven days, I beat my own Dynadot Backorder two times : on two similar domains (4N.info)

I guess that's relevant here because:

- I know registrar went after it because I backordered it myself with Dynadot
- It's pretty decent to me, I receive offers for such names.

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Other proof. I had several dynadot backorders beat by other people using dynadot as a registrar. For example the Nicked / dot / net service. My guess at that time was they had a special agreement with dynadot so that their use of the API was even faster than dynadot's system. Now I've seen it for my own benefit without any kind of agreement with dynadot. My guess is that the more you spend with dynadot, the higher you are in API access priority.

You wrote a bunch of BS to try to make it appear to people you know something special. In my opinion Your software cannot catch and will not catch domains registrars are after, stop defrauding the public with misinformation NOW!

Once again, your opinion is wrong, you have the right to express it, but it's just that. As for "the bunch of BS", I think you are attacking the wrong guy: @FPForum takes so much of his time to answer any technical questions here and via email... He always has detailed and clear answers. I think many users of the software will vouch for him here!

You started off honest, and I agreed the software has its place for domains registrars are not after. Now you are just blatantly using deception to give people false hope. SHAME ON YOU!

I think you may be confusing two things : registrars and big dropcatchers. I'm pretty sure you can't beat Snapnames / Dropcatch / Namejet / Pool / Hexonet on the names they are after, because I've tried systematically for several month to catch names like 4L.com or names from the Namejet list with the software with 0.00% success

Now I think Dynadot comes nowhere near the level of these companies in terms of dropcatching backorders (compare their $15.99 price for a .com to the standard $59/$69 of the others). That's why the software gives you a chance there.

 

[golan]

@FPForum You could not even bother replying to this bunch of nonsense, let alone spending so much of your precious time for such long excuses ^^. We all know you are right, and this nonsense just isn't worth your time. You'd better spend this time on bringing us new cool features, so we'll continue grabbing great domains with your software. Let ignorant people argue with themselves.

 

[boziffous]

In the two months since I've been using the DesktopCatcher software I've beaten my own backorders at Dynadot three times, Pheenix once, and GoDaddy at least 5 times.

 

[HDmarketing]

No motives, I call people out and warn others all the time,

@AEProgram it seems you got after the wrong guy / software here! A lot of users are happy they paid the software, I never saw anyone complaining here. And if you are not happy with it there is a 7-day trial period after which you can get a refund.

His message seems to try to clutter the brains of the few innocent people I woke up.

I feel @FPForum always expresses things clearly and takes time to detail things. I think anyone can see this anyway, but since you feel on a mission, I'd rather express my opinion on each and every of your point I consider wrong.

All of you supporting him do so knowing full well that this software is giving false hope to many, you are helping in the scheme, shame on you!

You are completely wrong as far as I'm concerned. I support him because I use the software daily and it does the job. I don't think it is giving false hope to many. I would encourage anyone to buy it with the simple warning: "don't waste your time trying to compete with the big boys".

What percent of people who buy this stop using it after a few weeks lol after they wake up?

That is true to every service, in every industry! People buy, try, and stick to it because it fits there needs or stop using it. Hence the 7-days risk free period. What can @FPForum do better other than offering that?

Like I said, every industry that has a fantasy make money quick side to it has someone pushing snakeoil to the most desperate of the people.

Beat the casino at black jack
...
Desktop catcher software

?
Are you out of your mind ? You are starting calling people names...

And yes, each snakeoil salesmen has cheerleaders, people that for some odd reason decide to tell people that yes, the forex software will just sit there and make you money etc.

What kind of testimony do you need. Users of the software are telling you they caught names with it and made money. You don't want to admit the truth ? You're calling us cheerleaders ? Well, in that case, I'd say you are of bad faith

And yes, I can see this software catching names that nobody is interested in,

Who are you to state something like that ?

post the names you caught with this software, lets hear it, you talk big lets hear them.

I've tried to catch 4N.infos systematically for months. That means I went after every one of them that was dropping.
For a very long period of time I backordered them all with Snapnames / Pool / Dynadot / DesktopCatcher and was systematically beaten by 55hl, a chinese company.
During the recent period I've backordered them only with Dynadot and DesktopCatcher. During the past days I caught 1315 . info and 2027 . info with the software, beating my own dynadot backorders. Please check the whois before calling me a liar.

Also, don't waste your time in stating these are crap domains that nobody else would ever bother even to hand register: I received +30 offers between $50 and $100 to my 4N.info listings (CHIPs and non-CHIPs) at GoDaddy last week.

I mean seriously, if you are at any level, you would usually always backorder at pheenix, gd and dyna as they are within same price points, you really think you can sit here and shoot me lines of BS?

Who are you to state something like that ?

AGAIN I will warn people that every snakeoil salesman has their cheerleaders. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT.

You have called me a cheerleader too many times mister man on a mission. I am reporting you because I feel insulted. (And truely, cheerleaders don't deserve the comparison, I have hairy legs...)

I will wait until these cheerleaders cook up some names to post as proof of anything, not that it matters but lets wait and at least get entertainment from these snakeoil pushers.

See above, but you already stated "not that it matters", so I know I've lost my time here. At least people interested in the software will have some data to decide if they want to give it a try...

I made a post about the truth about what this software is or isn't and he attacks me personally, what a fool.

You made a post about what you think of his software without having ever tried it. He and several users gave you proof and testimonials of what it really is and what they can achieve with it. We keep insisting, but the truth about you is that you are of bad faith.

When you state "this software is giving false hope to many, you are helping in the scheme, shame on you!", you are giving your opinion, not a fact, I can't argue with it. But when you implied the developper is pretending his software will beat backorder companies I asked you to quote him doing so and you never did. Allow me to call you a liar for that.

Let me understand, the domain you are after is a good domain, you liked it, but only at 16 bucks and not at 22 bucks?
You make little sense as to how you decide what names you want and how you go about catching them.

Who are you to judge people and their strategy ?
I backorder some info domains with the software and I pay them $5. Then there are some I handreg at $2 at domaining.com I constantly arbitrate between the two procedure to spare a few dollars. I don't need you to judge or mock my strategies.

I know I won't make you change your opinion or attitude, but when people are of bad faith I always try.
Please disappear.

 

[Dom Catcher]

@tanishqjain - It always depends on the competition, Some of the major players have several accredited registrar accounts/tags therefore they are able to ping hundreds of times a second per account on a vast scale which means the small fish have very low chance, The only upside being that the big players usually have a huge list of domains they want to catch for themselves and for their clients on a daily basis, this means that they loop through each of the domains and perform similar requests to register the domain on the drop for each of the domains in the list, therefore there sometimes is a small gap between requests where you can have success. That being said depending on the domain and the TLD, the big players have a written scripts that prioritise the more premium domains so they get allocated more resources.

With regard to your question, Being an accredited member will give you more chance of success but not guarantee success for the reasons above, Being a member usually allows you to connect directly to the registry EPP.

If you are not a member then you need to use a 3rd party API, This still works but is limited compare to direct connections because one needs to send a http request to the API endpoint which then gets processed by the code on their servers and then sent to the registry, therefore it is not as quick as going direct (Which can only usually be done if you have access to a TAG or are a member)

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I've been monitoring this thread for some time and seems like the DesktopCatcher has vanished which leads me to say the following..

For the past couple of months i have been writing a cloud based app that i use for dropcatching with the intent to release it for public use, at the moment it still has its flaws and some work still needs to be done to iron out the issues, Ive been seeing decent results, over 300 domains have been caught over the past couple of weeks and i would say around 70% are very profitable domains with 40% being single keyword domains or smaller.

I wont say which domains they are for the moment but i have seen my code beat dropcatch and phoenix multiple times although in the past couple of days i missed out on 3 domains (Again not releasing too much info at the moment) that would have had a lot of completion which is to be expected, you will never win everything.

Once finished im going to allow 5 accounts from NP who paid for the Desktop catcher to beta test it at scale and to vouch for the results. The way i have built this is to give full control to the users who use it so you don't need to pay per catch like dropcatch and your catch does not go into auction if there are multiple users wanting it, Its simply a first catch first wins basis to give everyone the same chance.

Stay tuned - I expect to see this ready for beta in the next couple of weeks!

 

[iamkali]

Hello,
I've been using DesktopCatcher since May, and I can only recommend it.

So far I caught about 40 domains: a few 2 words .COM / a lot of 2 words .NET

It's a good tool to catch "small" domains with low competition but it can't compete with Pheenix : I ran 6 catches ordering at Pheenix at the same time to maximize my chances => all were caught by Pheenix.

I've been using DesktopCatcher for a couple of weeks and it is solid. It honestly it doesn't compare to other drop catchers I have used in the past. In reality, it does depend on how you use the program and how much competition you have for the domains you are looking for, that's a given. But Andrew's program really is worth the money, in my opinion.

In regards to Pheenix, they are extremely hard to beat. HOWEVER, I do have to disagree with HDmarketing. I have beat out my Pheenix backorders multiple times in just 2 weeks. In fact, as I am typing this I just noticed I beat Pheenix again on one of my names today. You will not always beat Pheenix, that's just not realistic, but having the ability to compete with them is awesome. Beating an $18.99 backorder with an $8.99 reg is always nice.

@HDmarketing, I'm not sure how you have DesktopCatcher setup, but I would suggest checking with Andrew to see if you have setup to where you are giving yourself the best shot of beating your competition. Andrew is extremely responsive and very helpful.

Mike

 

[FPForum]

@JRayers - Thanks for questions! Regarding your first, this isn't a bug. It actually happens because there are a number of responses coming back and trying to post into the log at the same time. Although the requests are being sent with the full domain, if you have 2 responses trying to post in the log at the same time part of one may dip down into the other. This won't have any effect on the request itself or the domain being sent, though.

Regarding your second question, XZ appears to be connected to MAFF who owns a number of different registrars. The backorder service behind that would most likely be DomainMonster's backorder service since that's also owned by MAFF. Keep in mind, their backorder service is just like Name.com in that they don't do auctions. Instead, each domain is limited to one backorder max. You can read more here: http://www.domainmonster.com/backorder/

@usernamex - I've replied to your PM

 

[FPForum]

Thanks for the kind words @Cdomains and @usernamex! I try to be as helpful as possible

As Cdomains has mentioned, I wouldn't advise people to chase 4L.com's (or even 4L.net chips) these days as that type of stuff won't be catchable outside of backorders. But, there is still plenty of goodies out there to grab and a number of users made a hefty profit last year when they were grabbing 4L.net chips at reg fee and then flipping them for low-mid $XXX within just a couple of months. The same has happened with 3L.in, 4N.co, and 3L.co domains as well. Depending what you're looking for (short domains, SEO domains, brandable domains, keyword domains..etc) - There are still plenty of great opportunities out there and it shouldn't be too hard to make your investment back.

 

[golan]

I confirm: support is just incredible. Assuming i'm not the only Andrew's client that asking a lot of questions, i wonder how he finds time to these expanded answers and still has time to develop the soft and also of course for his own business. Wonderful!

 

[Cdomains]

@AEProgram

Just like the other guy @itaa - you have never even seen this software and never tried it.

You are making a comment on something you have absolutely no knowledge about.

Would you rate a movie you have never seen?

Would you recommend a restaurant you have never eaten in?

You are just a hater who is trying to stir things up.

Give the software a try first before you start making comments like that.

 

[HDmarketing]

This software will not beat a drop catching registrar that is after a domain.

You should re-read your first post: you were mentionning "registrars". Now you are mentionning "drop catching registrars". To me, these are two completely different things.

Snapnames, Namejet, Dropcatch, Pool... are dropcatching registrars and it's true DesktopCatchers will never beat their hundreds of registrars. But @FPForum never pretended that. He constantly warns that his software won't beat Pro backordering companies. I DEFY YOU TO FIND ANY QUOTE OF @FPForum STATING HIS SOFTWARE BEATS ONE OF THE BIG BACKORDERING COMPANIES or stop treating him a liar.

Dynadot and Pheenix are not in the same league as those above. It happens from time to time that DesktopCatchers beats them. Maybe you're right in thinking it's only because they are having a temporary glitch (eventhough I think your reasoning is flawed, because if Dynadot is broken, how come I catch domains with their own API ?)

Anyway, I reported such succesful catching myself by private email to @FPForum a few days ago, just because I wanted to thank him for the good job he made with the software!!! It's only fair if he mentions things like that can happen in his posts, because it's the truth.

 

[campout]

There must be an ulterior motive going on with @AEProgram's baseless attacks here.

Andrew is about the most honest guy I have dealt with in domaining. His software has made me thousands of dollars and he has never mis-represented what it is ideal for and what it is not ideal for.

 

[iamkali]

I've beaten my own Pheenix backorders 11 times now, so the program works.

I don't care what bs people post or issues they have, all I can say is it works for me. Does it always win? No, nobody can guarantee that. But this is the only thing that's ever beaten my own orders with Pheenix. Those 11 regs that I paid $8 each for instead of $30 paid for themselves.

 

[FPForum]

Just to post an update in this thread - Someone else did aquire this project from me a few months back. However, I've still been working with the new owner at providing updates and some help for support..etc.

@Cdomains - Which registrar(s) are you using exactly? DynaDot, for example, can take longer to respond when their load is heavy - especially if you don't have something like a Super Bulk account. The software sends a request and waits for the response. Depending on the load the registrar is taking it's certainly possible that the reply could take longer to be received. Something like this would likely happen often if you were running DynaDot during the COM/NET drop. As @golan said - they get pretty used and abused.. You could probably get faster responses (even for com/net) utilizing some other registrars instead.

I'm always on here and happy to help anytime someone has a question or issue. I surely would never want to leave someone hanging. @Cdomains - I would've seen this and responded quicker had it been via PM. As for the new owner, he did previously confirm to me that he does have an NP account, but is not on here much. You might be able to contact him through the email provided above and get his exact username. I didn't get it from him since we've always communicated via email, and I'm not sure if he'd want me posting it in public if I did. Still - if you guys ever need anything don't hesitate to shoot me a PM or post in here. I'll always be happy to help out! Also, know that the new owner is not planning to just let this project sit. I'll say he does have future plans and keep an eye out for updates in the future from him.

 

[jamesau]

I've been using DesktopCatcher on and off for a few months and it's a very capable software.

My interest in drop-catching is very sporadic, but the times I have used it have yielded decent results. I've probably only caught 10% but I've been pretty optimistic with some of the selections - some went for $XXXX on auctions. I've mostly used it for brandable .COM domains as that has been my focus in the last couple of months.

I suspect there are some good opportunities if you're keen to explore some of the extensions where other drop-catching services don't commonly venture. I'm looking forward to giving this a crack in the .AU space, and I'm sure there are other extensions worth exploring.

To be clear you shouldn't expect to catch anything that an auction platform goes for, but you definitely have a chance to be the best of the rest with this software.

Plus @FPForum has always provided great support even for my obvious questions.

 

[FPForum]

Thanks for your kind words and little review there @JRayers! I think you did a really good job of explaining what the software can do and where you can have some of the most luck.

It really depends what you're going for and how much other competition out there would likely be going for it. DesktopCatcher isn't going to yield much success against the top backorder outlets like SnapNames, DropCatch, NameJet because the setups these companies have it just way too big. On the other hand, customers have tested it against some of the smaller backorder outlets and seen some success. If you're ever curious just sent me a PM and I'd be happy to tell you if I think the names would be catchable or not. Also, I have a thread dedicated to the software here.

There are other options you can go with aside from running multiple applications to drop catch. Once again, contact me and I'd be happy to chat more about it!

 

[campout]

I just bought DesktopCatcher a couple days ago and have already been putting it to work

If you buy it, use the coupon DOMAINFORUM at checkout to save $20.

 

[domainerfella]

To be frank, I didn't have high expectation when I purchased, but it surprised me with 10 catches out of 24. Next day I caught 7 out of 16.

Also, Andrew is very helpful and supportive. He explains things in every minute detail.

 

[FPForum]

@AEProgram - I don't think you really know what you're talking about, so people should probably just ignore your post above. Do you know how registrars and their connections to the registries really work? Do you [em]really[/em] think a registrar would beat this software using 1 registry connection? Unlike you I've done work with registries in the past, and I can tell you that you're wrong. I don't think they really work the way you're thinking...lol

@itaa - First you'll hire someone, then you'll just make it yourself. Best of luck to you :D

@Domainstore - There is one built in directly to DesktopCatcher, but as his reply states I think he says that he is using "domain punch professional".

 

[Cdomains]

@itaa

I don't think you will be making software like this so easily.

There is way more to this software than you realize, and it is pretty arrogant of you to make the statement you did without even trying the software.

Have you even seen it for yourself?

I have this software and can tell you it is good software and clearly not something you can just "whip up".

A lot goes into it and it is updated and maintained which adds value, not to mention the great support.

Get real man!