.tv Crazy Premium Prices AND the end of the sub-$1000 2-letter.TV domain name

[GoneWalkabout]

I’m not here, I’m on holiday. But, if I were here at Namepros with you all, I would be so VERY VERY pi$$ed OFF, and at the same time elated, with the massive change in Premium name prices.

I’ve had a good name on my list (Frankfurt) for a few days. It was a drop with a premium of $1750 just a few days ago. Today it has been repriced to $5,000 per YEAR.

In many ways we find ourselves the victims of helping create the brand that is .TV - and boy does it hurt - like when your next hoped for purchase goes up by $3250 a year. Tahoe.Tv was also $1750 last week and now is similarly $5,000.

The flip side to this, of course, is that in this rising market, the value of names we have previously purchased, also become more valuable - especially if they are great names that have low or no premium.

However, we are definitely at the end of an era for .TV as this next milestone might explain...

Last weekend I managed to buy the last two TWO-LETTER.TVs at a price below $1000. These were PZ.tv and BL.TV, both purchased for $500 premium per year. Today, a two-letter name cannot be bought for less than four figures and it seems that many are in the $10,000 range!!! Milestone indeed!

Glad at the purchase, I am equally upset, as it seems the era of the great hunt for inexpensive ‘premium’ names may be coming to an end - and what we have already - is what we are stuck with.

Is the new pricing structure going to kill the brand called .TV or make it stronger? I don’t know, but I do know I also lost Manchester.TV because I was waiting for prices to be discounted this summer as some kind of ‘quick-cash scheme before the bIG sale of the company. I seriously doubt that now!

Unless, of course, the prices have been purposely increased to make the discounts seen even greater.

The prices are going crazy - and we’re going crazy with them.

Remember, I’m not here, I’m on holiday!!!

 

[Pred]

once theyre dropped i guess they can reprice them as original owner may have got a discounted price from a longtime ago, bur from what i understand they cant just hike up prices on names you continually reg, if anything you can negotiate discounts

enjoy your holiday dude

 

[StoneRoses]

Jimbo you are obviously not here but were you here this would be my response.

I agree that those of us in posession of great premiums at relatively low renewals are indeed going to be happy.
The days of great .tvs at great renewals look to be behind us, so yes i am happy but also sad ( yet not suprised) by what they are doing at this time.
As others have said, this could be an exit strategy ( i use the word "Strategy" loosely when dealing with DM) so if they are exiting i say good riddance and look forward to seing what the next owners of .TV can do.

I should add i have no problem whatsoever with the premium policy, but premium should be exactly that, not names like bailandoporunsuem-cm-1o.tv
Yes that really is a premium name!.

Nice pick ups with the ll.tvs BTW!. the last $500 country geo.tv( that i could find) was also taken last week, so thats the end of those aswell as ll.tvs

 

[cityforums.com]

It looks like that .TV wants to be the Beverly Hills of the domain space ...

is this a good strategy ? ... not everybody can live or build a house

in Beverly Hills ...

are the new TLDs going to help .TV once people get used to .ebay and .google ?

whatever happens it will be interesting !

 

[smashfactory]

jimbo, since your not here, can i talk about you?

 

[discovernow]

That is why it's so important for everybody on this forum to let people know before they drop there names so they can get them prior to DM hiking up the price.

Thanks, Jim

 

[CarryOn]

I really don’t know what to make of these premium increases by DM. Initially I thought it was bizarre – there are a swarm of premiums that drop, suggesting that they were not cheaply priced from the beginning, or at least not cheap enough for many to renew. And instead of trying to re-market them at the same price they jump the premiums – and by fairly large percentages. Another example is AC.TV which dropped at 1k – checked a few days later ……… its now 5k.

Could they purposely be placing these names out of reach of the average person (domainer)? Or positioning the premiums to offer more aggressive discounts for multi-year registrations later? Or, or or….. I have more questions than answers.

In any event, those with quality names and low premiums benefit from their actions. It certainly makes it less enticing to sell one, and expect to replace it with another equally good; equally reasonable price tag. More incentive to develop on cheap beachfront land……….or offer an end-user a real opportunity to own a great name with low renewals.

@jimbo who is not here…………I noticed that Frankfurt is back to 1750 now …… and Manchester.tv finally registered @ 3k. I’ve been wondering for the past year when that beauty would go - and someone from Germany too. All the top 10 cities in the UK are finally gone. Sorry you missed it. But great job getting the last 2 ll.tvs at 500. I didn’t realize there were any left below 1k.

@Cosmicray - IMO the intro of new tlds will positively impact .TV. Introduction of the new tlds will educate the masses about extensions beyond.com. Moreover, if .tv didn't exist yet, there would be a bidding war for its introduction during the new tld landrush. Hey, Verisign liked TV enough to pay $45mm in 2002 for the rights to market and run the .tv registry.

@discovernow - very good point about drops, especially now

 

[cityforums.com]

I really don’t know what to make of these premium increases by DM. Initially I thought it was bizarre – there are a swarm of premiums that drop, suggesting that they were not cheaply priced from the beginning, or at least not cheap enough for many to renew. And instead of trying to re-market them at the same price they jump the premiums – and by fairly large percentages. Another example is AC.TV which dropped at 1k – checked a few days later ……… its now 5k.

Could they purposely be placing these names out of reach of the average person (domainer)? Or positioning the premiums to offer more aggressive discounts for multi-year registrations later? Or, or or….. I have more questions than answers.

In any event, those with quality names and low premiums benefit from their actions. It certainly makes it less enticing to sell one, and expect to replace it with another equally good; equally reasonable price tag. More incentive to develop on cheap beachfront land……….or offer an end-user a real opportunity to own a great name with low renewals.

@Cosmicray - IMO the intro of new tlds will positively impact .TV. Introduction of the new tlds will educate the masses about extensions beyond.com. Moreover, if .tv didn't exist yet, there would be a bidding war for its introduction during the new tld landrush. Hey, Verisign liked TV enough to pay $45mm in 1982 for the rights to market and run the .tv registry.

You're right Carryon the new TLDs may have introduced .TV anyways ...

call me crazy but I think it is possible that we may see monthly renewal

fees in the future with some new TLDs.
:o

 

[Len]

If you look at it another way it could be a ploy (reverse psychology) to make those think twice about renewing premiums that they may be considering dropping. Drop a $500/yr domain today that may possibly rise to $3000/yr tomorrow??? May be worth considering renewing instead.

 

[RogueWriter]

I went to a furniture store, many years ago, and debated buying this chest of drawers. It was $99. Two days later, they ran a 20% off everything sale, so I went back, intent on buying that chest of drawers. Only now it was marked $139, less 20%, which was even more than the original price they had on it.

Now, that was some fifteen years ago, I still have not been back to that store, never set foot in it again.

So, maybe they are preparing for a big discount as a way of encouraging folks to reg. But, that doesn't really work if people already know what the price was supposed to be.

Perhaps they figure one of a kind items will force acceptance, I dunno.

One thing, perhaps they are dressing the store up, so that someone buying the company can look and see that there are xxx,xxx millions of dollars left in registrations to be had. That would look nice on a little chart.... if we sell 10% of the premium domains, we generate $X amount of money, 20% earns $Y, etc. If they knock the premiums up by fifty %, it looks like that much more is left in reg feees.

 

[cityforums.com]

The big negative with this strategy is that less development gets done because

the ROI is lower than just going with a .COM and soon other TLDs may

give investors much more options.

 

[hullswingerscom]

jimbo go have your holiday and relax...lol

i have been looking at manchester for long time and pleased it been regd so i can forget the dam name...and move on i do hope they develop it as its a great uk city.
i go there most weekends.

manchester must be the last best geo to be regd

can anyone tell me how many LL.tv are left at $1000?

i still dont understand why the price rise?i dont see many offers coming in on tv names
mystery to me!

have a good holiday jimbo.....

 

[jimnewberge]

is there a list of premium renewals somewhere? I regged my lone .tv for whatever base price is at godaddy but now concerned submitted.tv

ok so I just looked at godaddy and I can renew for 10 years for 391 and change then add on a coupon code to that and knock some off. Do you guys think submitted.tv is worth long term regging? My plan is to turn it into a MMA site (UFC Type fights) and show video clips and a forum. Would a successful site make them up the renewal fee?

 

[DnEbook]

i thought i read certain people here ........ think premiums are good for .tv ,
..... oh well i must have mis read those previous comments ???

 

[cityforums.com]

jt.TV just dropped and is now a $5000.00 premium

 

[heroes]

jt.TV just dropped and is now a $5000.00 premium

What was it before the drop Anthony? I saw it just after the drop and it was $5k

 

[MillersCrossing]

What was it before the drop Anthony? I saw it just after the drop and it was $5k

jt.tv is no longer available!! It was gone at 4.03am.

 

[cityforums.com]

What was it before the drop Anthony? I saw it just after the drop and it was $5k

I wish I knew ... anybody out there know ? ...

it's good news it was picked up so soon.

 

[heroes]

jt.tv is no longer available!! It was gone at 4.03am.

I saw that also Millers at around the same time. That means that the catch occurred immediately, therefore, I dont believe it was repriced.

Premiums that I have regged immediately after the drop were at pre-drop prices and given what I have been reading over the last week or so they are names that would've been repriced higher.

 

[cityforums.com]

I saw that also Millers at around the same time. That means that the catch occurred immediately, therefore, I dont believe it was repriced.

Premiums that I have regged immediately after the drop were at pre-drop prices and given what I have been reading over the last week or so they are names that would've been repriced higher.

ok ... anybody know the rhyme or reason behind their pricing ?

some LL.TVs have $10,000 premiums