discuss Cost was $19.95 to get a 100k counter-offer on Dispensary.Best

[namemarket]

So I go to Dynadot and see dispensary.best is for sale, not via Dynadot.com but thru DomainAgents.com

So I pay the required $19.95 fee to domainagents to handle my offer to buy dispensary.best

So the owner rejects my mid-3 figure offer with a $100,000 counter-offer! Is the name that good?

 

[NYJimbo]

Crap..... even MapleDots.best is still available..... I'm shocked

Seriously though....

If companies are not picking it up to protect their brand then it's probably a fairly decent indicator that it's not a good investment.

I'm going to register MapleDots.best for $2.75, then wait for you to come around and offer me $xxx, but then I will say "No, I want $100k" and then you will say "Oh my God, why did I wait so long...."

Yes, this is my plan.....

 

[Dave]

Not really Joe, IMO what you are saying seems more blatantly misinformed and misleading! Who would type-in funny pancake watermelon best compared to typing-in best dispensary?

So how much do you think hotels.best is valued at?

Joe's point is that using the amount of Google results with non quotes is an absolutely ridiculous metric to use in any domain name valuation. He is spot on and not misinformed.

I don't understand how you're one of the long standing members of Namepros and you don't know basics like this. The amount of Google results has no correlation to what people are searching for. That's the whole point of exact match search volume. Even that metric holds far less value these days than it once did.

I apologise if my post comes across as rash but to call another member misinformed and misleading when they're not is quite frankly ridiculous.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I would like to point out that I started a thread (not as popular as this one ) that looks at issues of search and domains in general. Welcome more views there.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/domains-and-searches.1131570/

My view is that Google search results without quotes give an idea of how common the terms are. That does not necessarily directly relate to value, but it is an indication that the terms are popular on the web and therefore there are potential users in theory. Note that it also does not take into account how speculated the term already is by domain investors, an important point re value.

When we look for the word in quotes the search is on EXACTLY that phrase. While that is worth looking at, that is not directly an indication of value either. This is particularly so because the SEO experts who have contributed to the thread linked above point out that Google (in searches without the quotes) uses AI to search for intention, rather than exact words. i.e. if I search on good domain they would use other words similar to good and also the plural domains in considering what to present me with. When I use quote marks though it does not do this and gives only that exact phrase. That is not what most searchers will do and should not be the only metric you look at.

Bob

 

[Joe N]

DispensaryBest.com:

 

[Ostrados]

I don't understand how you're one of the long standing members of Namepros and you don't know basics like this. The amount of Google results has no correlation to what people are searching for. That's the whole point of exact match search volume. Even that metric holds far less value these days than it once did.

True! Number of search results is nothing, you have to look at the average monthly search volume instead.

"Dispensary Best" has 0 per month search volume
"Best Dispensary" has 720 per month search volume
"Best Dispensaries" has 50 per month search volume

You can use keyword planner in Google Adwords to find search volume.
Alternatively I use a chrome extension called Keywords Everywhere which is a great and very useful tool, it gives you search volume directly in google.

 

[lock]

My bs detector is going beserk.

 

[MapleDots]

We already had .top, now .bests. So which one is the bestest ?

While I totally respect that there are numerous legitimate reasons to not be fans of the .best extension (only modest number of registrations, only tiny number of resales, not a wealth of real sites yet using it, to some semantic issues, to name a few) I would like to humbly request that just because a member is keen on this extension that does not give people the right to falsely claim that he is being somehow supported by the registry to promote the extension.

By all means express your view on the TLD, but let's leave personal attacks out of this, please. Anyway, just wanted to explain why I used a dislike, something I do only very rarely on NPs, with respect to a post a bit earlier in this thread.

Bob

I can't believe someone actually got a dislike from @Bob Hawkes , I never thought I would see the day.

Everybody hypes what they are in to, that could be .com's, ccTLD's, new gTLD's, whatever.

I don't think the OP has any more connections to a registry than the rest of us.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

now you could have best.est

Since we .best proponents don't care about order I tried to register est.best which is surely as good as best.est , but alas someone has it!

 

[Fancy.domains]

You’ll just have to visit Sedo or Afternic to realize that there are thousands of names with “bizarre” price tags.

Personally, I think I would never pay twenty bucks to be able to bid on a name, or to reveal a hidden price. Still, I understand that people might do so, if they really wants a name.

 

[frank-germany]

@namemarket

for peace of mind I'll ignore you

 

[Kate]

April Fools day is over right ?

 

[Zilla]

Looks like DispensaryBest.com is for sale on Sedo for mid $XXX as an alternative.

Like this post, clear with fact...thanks.

I didnot so negative on .best, I even register some recently include employer(s).best, but to be honetsty, I dont think 100k or ＄xxxx is a reasonable price to dispensary.best..best is a sensible extention for me , I dont care too much on it order～ best xxx or xxx.best～but why I spend so much money for ngtld, I expect lowest cost while I goto ngtld....

specially, while I am a domainer, I only want spend regfee for ngtld at this moment, if it take by others just forget it....ngtld have so many alternative, why I need spend 100k for one ngtld？

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Personally, I think I would never pay twenty bucks to be able to bid on a name, or to reveal a hidden price

I am with @Fancy.domains as well - I think there is too much money going to various middle people in domain names. But as he says, that is just me, and I understand how others might feel differently.

Re the domain name itself, while dispensary is indeed a highly popular term, I think the price asked is totally unreasonable. I view best as having possibilities, but it is not yet established (in sense of many prior sales or a large number of end user sites). As such it is more risky than many other extensions, and this must be reflected in domainer prices.

I would definitely have picked up dispensary at handreg standard price (but it has been registered for years) as a domain investment. I would probably even offer something low/mid $$ for it. If I was an end user with a specific plan for development of the site as some sort of clearing reference site on dispensaries I would go higher, but not much. Maybe low $$$. The exact word 'dispensary' sold in .net for $3000. In .biz for $50. If you look at 2 word .com sales in NameBio they are generally $$$ to low/mid $$$$.

It is also important to look at competitors. Others have mentioned the 2 word .com for sale. Also single word dispensary available in a few other extensions (keeping to myself for now, but one that has sold for lots in resale market) that might be arguably almost as good (I agree not quite). The semantically correct dispense.best is a possible phrase available at hand reg is also competition. It has 46 million search results and could apply to a variety of types of things we dispense, from water to pills to ideas!

I will comment in another post about .best in general and search results, but did not want this post to get too long or unfocussed.

Bob

 

[NYJimbo]

But that was a different thread and also an honest statement or opinion.

But that thread shows us WHY you would likely post a thread like this.

And I am sure there will be more, like this:

Found an Amazingly Good Landing Page​

https://www.namepros.com/threads/found-an-amazingly-good-landing-page.1131427/
Trying to promote a TERRIBLE landing page for another .best domain.

Come on man, we're not stupid. We see what you are doing.

 

[Kate]

I hope you are going to be the end user for the domain, and that the intention was not to buy it for resale.

 

[MapleDots]

Yup, or cannashops.best or cannastores.best or a ton of other ones. $2.75 each.

Crap..... even MapleDots.best is still available..... I'm shocked

Seriously though....

If companies are not picking it up to protect their brand then it's probably a fairly decent indicator that it's not a good investment.

 

[NYJimbo]

I don't understand how you're one of the long standing members of Namepros and you don't know basics like this.

It could be he DOES understand, but if he uses the normal logic of searches it doesn't help his argument.

I'm done here. This is just another .BEST promo from him that he is pretending to be something else.

 

[Joe N]

I would like to point out that I started a thread (not as popular as this one ) that looks at issues of search and domains in general. Welcome more views there.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/domains-and-searches.1131570/

My view is that Google search results without quotes give an idea of how common the terms are. That does not necessarily directly relate to value, but it is an indication that the terms are popular on the web and therefore there are potential users in theory. Note that it also does not take into account how speculated the term already is by domain investors, an important point re value.

When we look for the word in quotes the search is on EXACTLY that phrase. While that is worth looking at, that is not directly an indication of value either. This is particularly so because the SEO experts who have contributed to the thread linked above point out that Google (in searches without the quotes) uses AI to search for intention, rather than exact words. i.e. if I search on good domain they would use other words similar to good and also the plural domains in considering what to present me with. When I use quote marks though it does not do this and gives only that exact phrase. That is not what most searchers will do and should not be the only metric you look at.

Bob

I actually feel that domainers would be better off ignoring that search result metric entirely either way. It's more a distraction than anything else.

The best indicator of a domain's current value and sale-ability is in how many active sites in your results are actually using the term to promote their products or services; how many are using the keywords in their own domain name; and how many companies are paying to advertise under those keywords.

I've researched some names that have returned 100K+ exact match search results that I had no interest in buying, simply because the term or word combination was not being used commercially.

 

[Kate]

Wait, what will happen in a year when the TLD masters release ".VeryBest" ?

We already had .top, now .bests. So which one is the bestest ?

 

[hookbox]

Dispensary.best is a shit name. If you talk like a caveman then it makes sense but if you actually talk like a human then it's crystal clear that it's assbackwards.

rule #1 with these new extensions is to make sure the words are in the correct order and if they are not just move on to another name.

 

[Joe N]

Cyril.Best has reported a 100k offer on the pair.

Doesn't really count until it's a sale.

What happened to the $1 million offer?

 

[Windoms]

Thank you for the very informative answer, @Windoms! I can see that some who do not wish to negotiate directly a sale would rather the offer came in from a service like that, and there is the security of dealing with a person from a company that you know. So for some at least it is like having a broker, but for a domain priced at a level normally a broker would not handle. So if they are not able to secure the domain name, you still pay the fee, is that right?

Its $69.99.
You pay the fee, whether you get the domain or not.
They'll do everything they can to get it, within your budget.
Their first tactic will be to present an offer and wait for it to expire without saying a thing even if you counter or send messages.
If your budget is $2000 and owner accepts $300, you pay $300. + the $69.99 fee (paid upfront).

 

[DT13]

He is just shilling / hyping .best
I think people are paid here to tell nonsense stories about .best offers and sales. I now find it everywhere on NP. Fake hype.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

While I totally respect that there are numerous legitimate reasons to not be fans of the .best extension (only modest number of registrations, only tiny number of resales, not a wealth of real sites yet using it, to some semantic issues, to name a few) I would like to humbly request that just because a member is keen on this extension that does not give people the right to falsely claim that he is being somehow supported by the registry to promote the extension.

By all means express your view on the TLD, but let's leave personal attacks out of this, please. Anyway, just wanted to explain why I used a dislike, something I do only very rarely on NPs, with respect to a post a bit earlier in this thread.

Bob

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Just keen on this extension? Or brag with false numbers? I have nothing against enthusiasm but, this is something else.

Thanks, I guess, for posting but I am a little perplexed. What do you mean by brag with false numbers. Could you please quote anywhere I have done that and i will be more than happy to respond. Thank you very much.

I will though respond to your "Just keen on this extension?" assuming you mean it for me - if you mean it for the OP, despite the quote, I will of course let him reply, but here is my answer.

• I invest in a variety of extensions. In my portfolio I have from the legacy world .com, .org, .net, .info and .pro, with more .com than the others although I am keen on potential for .org.
• Within country codes I invest in .ca, .co, .me and .pw currently. I track .io but do not hold any now. I don't have more than a few of each.
• I hold many different new extensions, including .best now. I have been keen (due to niche interests) on .space, .science, .site, design and .online. I also like phrases possible with .fun, .life and .world and have a number of each of those. In some words I see that the .icu can match and hold some. I have a small number of .xyz. I had a few more .top in past than currently but still have 4. I have high worth words in .gdn, even while recognizing the extension is troubled. I have a few of many different other extensions (even a .monster! ) where a great match of the word with the extension is available at reasonable cost and renewal.

I am interested in many things in the world of domains, so like a diverse portfolio that mirrors that. So to simply answer your question, the .best extension is a rather small part of my portfolio, both in numbers and in dollar value. As I stated earlier, I consider it has potential but is risky and speculative.

So what do I think of best? If you go earlier in this thread you will see my views written in a pro and con way. Among the cons I see are lack of resales, lowish registration numbers, poor suitability as the core domain for a business in most cases, over promotion by registry which has turned off domainers in general, relatively sparse meaningful website use so far. Among the pros I cited a widely searched word, flexibility with various parts of speech, not many high value terms reserved by registry, works well in domain name phrases, well suited to review/reference sites. I would share a few names I have and like, but don't want you to consider I am hyping names.

Please let me know if this does not fully answer your question, @DT13 . Thanks for reading.

Bob