.mobi Congrats to Mobi...

[labrocca]

Seems this weeks DNJournal has some positive market news for mobi. It appears the TRAFFIC sales have finally completed and been reported.

I know many mobi speculators will be very pleased with the news but I can't help but to feel weirded out. Before the traffic there was huge anticipation for the mobis. While some did sell for fair money...it was definitely below the average standard that many here wanted. So was the TRAFFIC a success for mobi or a failure? Certainly immediately after it was viewed unfavorably by many but I wonder now that a month has passed if those ill feelings still exist?

RealEstate.mobi $85,000 Certainly not chump change but the threads here seemed to think it was an automatic $xxx,xxx.

So has the hype of mobi finally chilled out enough to view the extension realistically?

Again..congrats to the mobi enthusiasts as I feel it's deserved. Good sales reported this week at strong market values for sellers.

 

[-REECE-]

Seems this weeks DNJournal has some positive market news for mobi. It appears the TRAFFIC sales have finally completed and been reported.

I know many mobi speculators will be very pleased with the news but I can't help but to feel weirded out. Before the traffic there was huge anticipation for the mobis. While some did sell for fair money...it was definitely below the average standard that many here wanted. So was the TRAFFIC a success for mobi or a failure? Certainly immediately after it was viewed unfavorably by many but I wonder now that a month has passed if those ill feelings still exist?

RealEstate.mobi $85,000 Certainly not chump change but the threads here seemed to think it was an automatic $xxx,xxx.

So has the hype of mobi finally chilled out enough to view the extension realistically?

Again..congrats to the mobi enthusiasts as I feel it's deserved. Good sales reported this week at strong market values for sellers.

RealEstate.mobi sold for nearly 1/3 of what it's dotnet counterpart -- something which I believe is pretty good at any stage in the game. Even if they were never valued higher than 1/3 of .net, many of us would make our money back, and then some

I think TRAFFIC was a success... IMO, real estate is far, far away from the best mobile keyword. It will be many years before it's nice and convenient to view house pictures/tours on cell phones -- something which has finally caught on. If I'm buying a house without seeing it (I know several people whom have done this btw), I'd want very (as in 1024x768+) good pics so that I could be sure it suits my needs, aspirations,... A puny cell phone screen does not do this at this point in time.

I'm happy with the sales numbers... Being a little on the skeptic side is better than being overly positive IMO. Being overly positive just leads to disappointment the large marjority of the time. Putting a few eggs in the dotmobi basket, but keeping a few gems elsewhere (or in the bank :hehe: ) is still the right way to play the game IMO.

 

[Traveler]

I don't think the auction did much either way for the extension. I doubt future ones will either. What will determine the level of success that .mobi achieves has more to do with how it is adopted and promoted by the big boys out there. Until then it is all just speculation imho. People can talk to their blue in the face about it but truly only time will tell. Actually, I can't believe I took the time to post in a thread like this because it is all a bunch of hot air

 

[gemulder]

The latest fresh houseselection on your mobile phone...

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rssHouses.mobi
rssHuizen.mobi

I expect a lot from RealEstate.mobi; In this stadium a good price!

RealEstate.mobi sold for nearly 1/3 of what it's dotnet counterpart -- something which I believe is pretty good at any stage in the game. Even if they were never valued higher than 1/3 of .net, many of us would make our money back, and then some

I think TRAFFIC was a success... IMO, real estate is far, far away from the best mobile keyword. It will be many years before it's nice and convenient to view house pictures/tours on cell phones -- something which has finally caught on. If I'm buying a house without seeing it (I know several people whom have done this btw), I'd want very (as in 1024x768+) good pics so that I could be sure it suits my needs, aspirations,... A puny cell phone screen does not do this at this point in time.

I'm happy with the sales numbers... Being a little on the skeptic side is better than being overly positive IMO. Being overly positive just leads to disappointment the large marjority of the time. Putting a few eggs in the dotmobi basket, but keeping a few gems elsewhere (or in the bank :hehe: ) is still the right way to play the game IMO.

 

[aggieuk]

What will determine the level of success that .mobi achieves has more to do with how it is adopted and promoted by the big boys out there.

Exactly what i was thinking, it would also help if MTLD would issue their press release a few months in advance for the names they are going to release to auction rather than the Moniker press release that gets rubbished then all of a sudden a few week before gets pretty much re-released by MTLD! They won't get any end user interest if this happens! I agree with the stategy not to advertise fully at this present time since there isn't much of a mobile web infrastructure, it'll only turn new and excited users away after they bump into 3 or 4 parking pages!!! Just my 2 pence worth!!

 

[goodkarmaco]

What if the person who bought the name for $85,000 was a top multi level worldwide Real Estate agency francshise owner? What is a name like that really worth to him?. I guess what I am saying is the sale price was probably low as most in attendance are domain owners. I say that as I am not sure who bought it, just guessing it was a reseller.

Reece has a good point as a sale price of 1/3 of the .net is very good in my opinion for a new extension.

Its good to that Aggieuk spells out the real reason domains are not getting anywhere near the potential at auctions such as these. All domainers should want auction companies to target end users when a auction takes place. Everyone involved will benefit by receiving the highest sales prices for their domains.

I am just a lttle confused as to why the owner would not have set a higher reserve for this high caliber domain? Is it because he/ she thought attracting more bidders in early would surely bring the highest price? On the flip side, maybe thru the life of ownership the owner never received a high offer and was tired of waiting or needed cash.

In any event it is true that having high expectations for .mobi is not just based on a whim. The history of the .mobi is so young and I am sure it will have cycles, just like everything. It can't be all good. Thats why I only own a few. I think some who buy everything, just because its a keyword may never sell those.

think like a mobi.. think like a mobi..

 

[satsdifference.com]

The Big Guys

Exactly what i was thinking, .. I agree with the stategy not to advertise fully at this present time since there isn't much of a mobile web infrastructure, it'll only turn new and excited users away !

I agree, very big point about the Big Guys.. and what the top level of the pyramid has been mindful of.. remember they profit mostly off their products (like pushing new internet phones in your face) not from .mobi registrations..

.Mobi is the water that makes the chemical reaction mold together..
it is the business consortium/gang that unifies in one flag - Dot Mobi.
A platform for all the powerhouse platforms in the business giants world because they all use - the domain name, as the central valve of communication..

In the beginning stages, it's smart to take advantage of the unknown - that no one knows about dot mobi. Then you get flipped by the Dot Mobi business gang and suddenly you "owe" them.. this is a business concept at the high level.. *Now, VISA* whose next? (over and under the table, of course)

So it's about timing to encompass and engulf one at a time - hence, have we seen a press-release yet about 2 or 5 companies going dot mobi in one day? It'll happen soon, but in the beginning.. we're all watching closely in awe on how smart this baby is..



Kind Regards,

Yelo

 

[gemulder]

I agree, very big point about the Big Guys.. and what the top level of the pyramid has been mindful of.. remember they profit mostly off their products (like pushing new internet phones in your face) not from .mobi registrations..

.Mobi is the water that makes the chemical reaction mold together..
it is the business consortium/gang that unifies in one flag - Dot Mobi.
A platform for all the powerhouse platforms in the business giants world because they all use - the domain name, as the central valve of communication..

In the beginning stages, it's smart to take advantage of the unknown - that no one knows about dot mobi. Then you get flipped by the Dot Mobi business gang and suddenly you "owe" them.. this is a business concept at the high level.. *Now, VISA* whose next? (over and under the table, of course)

So it's about timing to encompass and engulf one at a time - hence, have we seen a press-release yet about 2 or 5 companies going dot mobi in one day? It'll happen soon, but in the beginning.. we're all watching closely in awe on how smart this baby is..



Kind Regards,

Yelo

Nice spoken!

 

[scandiman]

I am just a lttle confused as to why the owner would not have set a higher reserve for this high caliber domain? Is it because he/ she thought attracting more bidders in early would surely bring the highest price? On the flip side, maybe thru the life of ownership the owner never received a high offer and was tired of waiting or needed cash.

If you are referring to RealEstate.mobi, the owner was mtld.

 

[GeoOwners]

DNjournal made a few notes within the sales figures saying (paraphrase) .mobi has made bigger sales than all other extensions other than .com and he seems impressed so far.

Yes Jesse, most of us have prolly come down a few notches in expectations but that is really healthy and now we can all move forward.

I miss some of the heated agruments though :yell:

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[labrocca]

DNjournal made a few notes within the sales figures saying (paraphrase) .mobi has made bigger sales than all other extensions other than .com and he seems impressed so far.

Yes Jesse, most of us have prolly come down a few notches in expectations but that is really healthy and now we can all move forward.

I miss some of the heated agruments though :yell:

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I certainly don't miss the heated arguments. I am more pleased with the current level of mobi prices. It's high but in an area that's realistic for it's possibilities.

Also mtld can't release what will sell at Traffic months ahead of time because the names have to be approved by TRAFFIC first. I am sure mtld has to submit names the same as everyone else. It's really odd though that a tld holder is selling in this manner. Really I am offended by the process. It goes against the idea of what a tld owner should be doing. If this is going to be the future of TLD owners and release of names then as domainers we are in serious trouble. New extension may do the same thing and I can see the names being parsed out via auction for each and every name. Imagine to register LLL.ext you go to place an order...they then place the name in auction for one week....eventually you win the domain but of course you may have been bid up to a high cost. Not the domaining world I want to be apart of.

 

[-REECE-]

I certainly don't miss the heated arguments. I am more pleased with the current level of mobi prices. It's high but in an area that's realistic for it's possibilities.

Also mtld can't release what will sell at Traffic months ahead of time because the names have to be approved by TRAFFIC first. I am sure mtld has to submit names the same as everyone else. It's really odd though that a tld holder is selling in this manner. Really I am offended by the process. It goes against the idea of what a tld owner should be doing. If this is going to be the future of TLD owners and release of names then as domainers we are in serious trouble. New extension may do the same thing and I can see the names being parsed out via auction for each and every name. Imagine to register LLL.ext you go to place an order...they then place the name in auction for one week....eventually you win the domain but of course you may have been bid up to a high cost. Not the domaining world I want to be apart of.

At this point, I think the biggest potential problems that could destroy dotmobi, is how fast the remaining reserved dotmobis are released...

Too fast -- and you get domainers buying the majority of the names and likely parked or non-existing content.

Too slow -- and you get genuine endusers (as in regular people) who type in names and can't find sites...

It's a balancing act, and one I believe is imperative to success or failure of mtld.

 

[labrocca]

I think they are holding too many names. They should have kept the top 100 and given them free to proper companies in RFP. Instead they are going for money short term.

 

[-REECE-]

I think they are holding too many names. They should have kept the top 100 and given them free to proper companies in RFP. Instead they are going for money short term.

It really has always seemed like a money grab to me... As you said, there's maybe 100 good words they should have reserved (i.e. sex, money, ringtones, real estate, drugs, vitamins, health, 'adult' premiums, ...). Reserving as many as they did... They seem like cybersquatters -- not us whom they claim would have done such.

There's about 20 sites I regularly visit on the web. Few of them are very good names like ebay -- most of them are more in a midrange like pricegrabber, pcworld, namepros, wikipedia -- and some would be reg fee names such as engadget, gizmodo, dynamism.

Pretending that all those 5k names are needed to have a good mobile web is just that -- pretending.

Now they've created a real dilemma for themselves -- release them too fast and you destroy the aftermarket, release them too slowly and you risk losing potential endusers.

 

[Jeff]

Righto, congrats to .MOBI for the positive news ... as reported in last night's DNJ! :music:

This might also be a good time to think very seriously about the extension ... and the many, many unanswered questions about it's future, as well. For instance, let's focus for a brief moment on the "ecosystem" itself ... how do these sales to the Usual Suspects© help build out an usable, embraceable and developed "ecosystem"? IYHO's. :blink:

mTLD is going to make a LOT of money from our registrations and, uniquely, these "Reserved Names" (RFP's) ... I'm looking forward to seeing our questions addressed, IMHO. :gl:

Take care for now, friends!
-Jeff

 

[labrocca]

RFP seems like a way for them to get $85,000 for a domain registration. They have managed to push out the domainers from the best portions of the market (for better or worse is hard to say).

 

[Traveler]

If I hear the word "ecosystem" one more time I think I'm going to hurl :hehe:

 

[scandiman]

...I think I'm going to hurl :hehe:

that would not be good for your ecosystem.

 

[Traveler]

that would not be good for your ecosystem.

Oh great thanks, gotta mop so I can clean up my ecosystem now?

:hehe:

 

[Jeff]

:lol:

Plus, that's not very nice to fellow member MrRhee, IMHO ... he is still the super proud owner of Ecosystem.mobi, I believe!

RFP seems like a way for them to get $85,000 for a domain registration.

I know it ... to an outside person, I would think this whole RFP dealio must look an awful lot like pure and unabashed GREED ITHO's, IMHO. :o :yell:

-Jeff