.tv Concerns about the .TV Forum

[NPQueen]

After hearing many complaints and reading through pages and pages of posts and threads, it has been determined that a change needs to take place in the .TV forum yet again.

While reading through the posts and threads it is obvious that there is a lot of passion in regards to this particular extension here. That within itself is a good thing, the problems arise when those who have a different point of view are being shunned. This is a "Discussion" forum. Discussions allow for multiple sides, those that are for,those that are against, those that are showing an interest in, etc. This has not been the case in the .TV forum for a very long time.

It was our hope that with the last moderator change in this forum that things would be handled differently, this was not the case. As a result, we are again going to be replacing the .TV Forum Moderators in hopes that things will change. Until such time that there is a new moderator, RJ, Jennifer and myself will be moderating this forum.

If you would like to create a Social Group which can be invite only that may be a good thing for you. Then only those who you wish to participate can. If you would like to do this, please let me know and I will arrange for that.

~Rachel, Ron and Jennifer

 

[Vito]

Sad.
If I could help I would in a heartbeat!
Half of my .tv Posts I start off in the General Domain Discussion Forum, but then they get moved.
I like point-counterpoint, but of course I, myself am passionate about the extension...just like others who favor- .mobi, or .tel, or LLLL's etc.

This isnt suppose to be a fight here.
I love the fact that he likes .us, and she likes .cc
It gives us all a little breathing room to define our niches.

I love .tv, and I am not easily offended if others dont,
but we should all work together to push domains as a whole group.

The sales speak for themselves.

I seem to be babbling here but I would help in any way I could, if needed.

I really would rather not potentially lose the .tv forum.

It is a small passionate bunch, but they have helped me out considerably!

There are some great Members who would do well here...
or bring Equity back!!!
LOL

 

[FedPrimeRate.com]

Quite a bit of strange chaos in the dot-TV forum lately. IMO, cleaning house -- in more ways than one -- is the right way to go.

Still my favorite place to discuss dot-TV domains, and I don't think that'll ever change. Still LOTS of great people who frequent this forum; they start and contribute to insightful and meaningful threads.

Long live the dot-TV forum, and long live dot-TV!

AmCy

 

[Vito]

Well,
It sure seems like about the hardest position to have here at NP...
being a .tv Moderator.

First off,
was Equity, who was awesome!

Then 2 awesome NP/tv members...
.tv, and AMCY

Now,
RJ, NP Queen, AND Jennifer...???!!!
Wow, That is Alot of attention!
I believe now we can say...
the .tv Forum is now considered "special" LOL

 

[.tv]

Thanks for everyone for their support, and I've learned a lot from this professional & exclusive .TV forum. There is no doubt that the .tv forum will be moderated in the best possible way by the direct supervision of RJ, NPQ, and Jennifer.

I wish everyone a huge success with their endeavors in .TV.

Cheers,
DJ.

 

[Len]

I personally don't know of any .tver that has gone into any other NP's sub-forum and continually argued against a particular ext.

TBH I cannot see any reason why anyone would do this........If you don't like an ext then that's fine, that is your choice, your decision.......There is no reason for you to be in the .tv forum if that is the way you think.

It seems that the following analogy applies: In hard times animals will do anything to survive, they will even turn on their young and eat them if they have too.

As domainers, we are currently affected by the Global recession and also in "hard times". This IMO has cause some to voiciferously turn on .tv and, metaphorically speaking, begin to devour it as they see this as a threat to their survival.

We know .tv is not and never will be the same as most other extensions, that is exactly the reason why this sub-forum has thrived in the past. It is different.....It is not a "Cult".... it is where the most experienced and knowlegeable in this ext have resided over the past few years. They have shared that knowledge with those who asked or needed help and advice.
Sure there are things we don't like about the ext......Nobody likes the premium pricing, but it is there, it is a fact of life that there are premium .tv's.

Like I said, nobody I know likes the premiums, however they are just a small percentage of the ext and to have the premiums touted as the downfall of the ext on a daily basis is wrong and unacceptable and should have been stopped a long time ago.

 

[equity78]

Len its all been fixed check your invitation its .tv sub forum circa 2005-2006 WELCOME MY SON, WELCOME TO MACHINE. http://www.namepros.com/groups/89-dot-tv-nation.html

Thank you Rachel for the idea.

 

[garptrader]

So now all the experienced .TVers go to a private discussion group and everyone else is left debating with those who despise .TV . I don't believe I have ever commented on the .TEL, .BIZ, .US or 4-letter forums. Well, I suppose that leaves me with one option...

 

[vincenzo]

Len its all been fixed check your invitation its .tv sub forum circa 2005-2006 WELCOME MY SON, WELCOME TO MACHINE. http://www.namepros.com/groups/89-dot-tv-nation.html

Thank you Rachel for the idea.

Will I get an invite - please?
Thanks,

- Vince

 

[poiuytrewq]

This place needs a real sort out for sure. I know of no other domain forum like the .TV forum.

 

[NPQueen]

We would really like it if you could participate in both the private Social Group as well as in .TV forum. We are constantly having new members join and for many different reasons. I think it would be a great disservice for those who are not in the Social Group to miss out on the vast amounts of knowledge that you all have to offer. Please just consider this request :tu:

I have been going through and cleaning up some of the threads. There are some great topics that got ruined by the arguments. Please do not be offended by this, I would like this forum to serve as many people as possible without them having to deal with the recent internal issues, it is a turn off for this forum when new members come and read a thread that ends with arguments that have little to do with the main topic.

 

[poiuytrewq]

We would really like it if you could participate in both the private Social Group as well as in .TV forum. We are constantly having new members join and for many different reasons. I think it would be a great disservice for those who are not in the Social Group to miss out on the vast amounts of knowledge that you all have to offer. Please just consider this request :tu:

I have been going through and cleaning up some of the threads. There are some great topics that got ruined by the arguments. Please do not be offended by this, I would like this forum to serve as many people as possible without them having to deal with the recent internal issues, it is a turn off for this forum when new members come and read a thread that ends with arguments that have little to do with the main topic.

You are doing a great job NPQueen. We could have done with you a couple of years ago but alas...

I can see it going from strength to strength now! Thanks!

 

[TheBulldog]

I really need to stop in more often.

 

[Jeff]

It's going to take a bit of time (and patience) in order to balance out some of the previous tone and entitlements, but I can already see the positive changes and hope for more open, inclusive, and balanced professional topical discussion ... here in the #1 .TV Forum™, IMHO. :music: :talk:

There are many here on the site who may have an interest (everyone's interest level will be different), and while they may not always post ... it's important that they are able to view and interpret all topics and posts, opinions, suggestions, personal experiences, what to-do's and what not-to-do's, associated costs and risks, development ideas, monetization strategies, etc. in order for them to make the best decision(s) for their own personal situation! :imho:

Thank you and best regards,
-Jeff

 

[equity78]

First off if people are looking to deal in fantasy, then place tm's and bold what ever you like.

Secondly there is now a social group for those who wanted to avoid the nonsense of Jeff, it was created for that reason, and several people have left,including longtime member Argos who pmmed me today telling me he was leaving Namepros as he was disgusted.

Entitlement ? This forum was started for one reason, for those who were interested and owned .tv to be able to speak about it with like minded people. Stating from day 1, don't like .tv ? Great you have a place to express that in domain discussion.

At the end of the day I created a place on NP to get them away from the person they despise and who do not want to be in grade school with a million smiley faces and ???????

Problem solved.

 

[Len]

Here, here.....I don't want to participate in a forum that has been taken over by those whose agenda is to destroy it.

 

[Jeff]

Here, here.....I don't want to participate in a forum that has been taken over by those whose agenda is to destroy it.

How can openning up the discussion(s) for all opinions and points of view, with fair & equal OPEN sharing of information and personal commentary (unique to each member's personal experiences and individual levels of interest) ... be in any way destructive?

"Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness." -James Thurber

Kind regards,
-Jeff

 

[RogueWriter]

Eh, I guess it's a question of wanting to be something to everyone rather than something special for those most interested and involved in that topic.

 

[localexperts]

When long time posters leave namepros because of another poster, that is destructive. Many long time posters are naming you as the reason why they don't want to participate on this forum.

If you worked for me, you would getting thrown out of my office every day because when you express a contrarian viewpoint, you can't effectively articulate your counterpoint - due to the fact that your argument is crude and unsophisticated.

A person who has a different opinion is never a problem. A person who can't communicate their viewpoint is like a cancer that eats away at an organization.

 

[shaper]

It is unfortunate that divisiveness has pretty much shattered this forum, and it does dis-service to the extension as moving to another forum puts it further out of the public eye. However, there is work to be done, so the first order of business is having a place where that is possible without constant disruption.

While there is a private community, posts are extremely limited in length and not suitable for carrying out meaningful topic discussions that require a depth of consideration.

In a lot of ways I think the group is over-reacting. Over the last few months I have noticed a considerable attempt to be more moderate in comments that were generally not agreed with, on the part of those making those statements. However it is also becoming increasingly clear that the issues are long running and deeply entrenched and unlikely to be resolved reasonably. While a limited amount of reasoned debate is useful, the constant battle between those with a vested interest in the extension and those seeking to undermine that interest is tiring and counter-productive.

Extensive participation in the marketplace by people who are actively suppress the market is not encouraging. It is one thing to be actively involved and to state an opinion about the extension or assets within the extension and their current relative value, it is another thing entirely to actively attempt to subvert those values when it is clear that their is no involvement in that extension beyond trying to get a rise out of active investors.

I feel it is important to be able to discuss the advantages and disadvantages that I see in the extension and its involved areas, to have access to an open market place and to fairly weigh the merits of a commodity that I am considering buying or selling. That purpose is subverted regularly in these forums, thereby defeating its stated purpose. It is pretty much a waste of time when discussion after discussion gets derailed by personality conflicts, particularly those that degenerate into pointing fingers and shouting rather than staying on an articulate level. This is even more substantially problematic when many of those posting frequently appear not invested in the discussion for the purpose of present or future investment.

I do not particularly understand why those who have no stake in the game, sit at the table and criticize the active players and their decisions, are considered valuable assets to the community. While some balance of viewpoint is healthy, repetitive destructive behavior is not beneficial to any of the parties involved.

In a poker game, it is poor form to tell others how to play. You make your investment or get out of the pot. If you aren't involved in the game, then you stand behind the rail and let the game play or go find a game you are interested in playing. You don't talk about the hand unless you are in the pot, even more so if you are not seated at the table. There is a huge difference between sitting out a hand and waiting for a better opportunity than sitting down at the table with no stake in the game and telling every one that they are playing wrong and they have no business being there.

It pretty much comes down to trade or get off the floor. If you are involved in what's going on, then its reasonable to speculate about the activities. If your only interest is to disrupt the proceedings then you should be given a lot less latitude in terms of your behavior.

Ultimately though, the action is where the action is.

Time is a commodity, and I can't monitor every place on the net on a regular basis. If the discussion moves and the active and knowledgeable people with it, then I intend to spend the majority of my available time speaking with people who are actually attempting to get something accomplished. If this requires a change of venue, then that is what it requires. I would prefer to see the community stay intact and the problems to be resolved. However, if forced to choose, I will choose a constructive environment over a destructive one without hesitation.