China will block .com's for a competive edge.

[Chris Rice]

The above statement is just a prediction of mine. Blocking .com's for an unfair advantage over US company's would not be beyond them and it is definitely doable. Verisign does not even have a license to use or sell .com's in China, it was only tolerated. But that might change very soon (effective March 1, 2016)

Research MIIT, the Chinese government organization that regulates the internet and domain names in China. This has all been talked about for quite sometime, long before Google re-organized under abc.xyz (do some research for once). It was also well understood that .xyz and .club would be two of the first foreign registrars to get a license in China.

According to Daniel Negari, XYZ is the only U.S. registrar to apply for a license in China AND coordinate with ICANN about it. While a lot of .com loyalists have been bashing new GTLD's a lot of people have been in the background hand registering cheap domain names. A lot of large .COM portfolio holders already sold out and domain name news outlets are slowly easing on their criticism.

TheDomains was right, it will take an intense marketing campaign by at least 2 to 3 major brands. He mentions the Super Bowl as a good example and if you do some research, that is exactly what's happening.

ChrisRice.xyz

 

[-EM-]

" If a business really wants a name, and they don't mind the renewal"
I don't think so. Any business will do the best to cut as much as possible the money loss. Also a business would make a small calculation, before investing $12k renewal plus sale price if they are thinking for a long term business.
Let's say their plan is for 5 year (4x$12k=$48k) plus the sale price let's say as low as $30k with a total of $78k in total. They can go easily in other better alternatives.

 

[Chris Rice]

This is a news article from a Filipino newspaper in the Philippines. It's about politics and has nothing to do with domain names. It just goes to show the popularity of the term XYZ, and it's growing.



Open letter to Generation XYZ

The “veterans” of 1928-1945 are almost gone. The “Baby Boomers” of 1946-1965 are going. It’s you, members of Generation XYZ, who will shape the future of this country.

One of you is aiming to shape your future. Buyer, beware. Ferdinand Marcos Jr. is peddling a very dangerous line: “The past is past.” Look to the future. Let’s move on.

http://opinion.inquirer.net/93213/open-letter-to-generation-xyz

 

[4pm]

Will China block the .COM in China?

...com will soon be awarded an exclusive status of the official Communist party of China domain extension
all other tlds will get banned as ideologically wrong

 

[phantasmagoria]

cool, i own inquirer.xyz too

 

[Kate]

...
But lack of competition will ultimately harm China’s economic and social growth.

It's true. At some point they are shooting themselves in the foot.
In fact, Western companies are already shifting production to Vietnam and other Asian nations, because China is becoming 'expensive'. Not to mention the red tape and the difficulty of doing normal business. It's not a free market economy.
China's model is changing too: it's been export-oriented but the focus is now moving toward national consumption.

@Kate @JB Lions @Brandingtheweb.com

What do you think guys?

Will China block the .COM in China?

Short answer: no. I am not obsessed with China in particular.
Russia is moving in a similar direction ('national', tightly controlled Internet). Other countries too.
Governments worldwide are asserting control and becoming increasingly authoritarian, but it's not a question of TLDs. It goes well beyond that.
Bottom line: Invest in ccTLDs too. They are to stay. Those silly strings come and go, and we all know that

 

[Chris Rice]

Bottom line: Invest in ccTLDs too. They are to stay. Those silly strings come and go, and we all know that

.IN looks like it might be a good one. @Kate

India has the third largest internet population in the world and I think their government is less authoritorian. They also have a large English speaking population (I think). I haven't researched it extensively, this is just off the top of my head.

I believe domains like Book.co.uk will decrease in value in favor of domains like Book.uk.

Another example:
Book.ph (already an extension) instead of Book.com.ph (already an extension too).

The .co and .com is just extra and doesn't mean anything if you say the domain outloud as a phrase. If you read how XYZ is being used in news articles and magazines Book.xyz means that the websites covers every book that there is or features one book at a time.

@JayT You are skeptic and biased but I am telling you the truth whether you are willing to accept it or not. Some people care more about holding onto their mental & emotional beliefs than adapting with change. If you don't adapt with the times you will get left behind and I am guessing you will be a sore loser if that's the case. #StopHating

 

[JayT]

Heh, yea I'm a skeptic. I'm also very helpful. I told someone to buy advertise.xyz about 6 months ago (1$ reg fee) I just gave it to him! Probably the best possible domain in xyz, imo. Not ALL .xyz are bad, but many names in xyz just don't work. In general, I don't like the xyz, because it is very limiting in regards to words that work with it. I'd be hard pressed to really 'want' 10 or 20. That means, to me, overall, I don't like it! Not to sound arrogant, but despite what is happening now, my xyz perspective is right on. Many of the domains in there will drop within a few years. If i wasn't so helpful I wouldn't be telling you any of this because it doesn't mater to me one way or another. The best chance xyz has, imo, is people registering their names and using it as email. The 2l cctld are picking up too much steam, there is no room for xyz.

 

[Chris Rice]

I could get behind something as obscure as book.rodeo before I got behind book.xyz. Book.rodeo, I can see a branding chance among other things. book.xyz doesn't tell me anything special, contrary, as i've said, It looks like a cheap attempt to waste my time.

Google.rodeo
Yahoo.rodeo
Facebook.rodeo
Amazon.rodeo
Twitter.rodeo
Book.rodeo

Yeah... right... I think your love for rodeos is getting the best of you. I bet you have a few rodeo domains and that is why you said that. I cannot think of any other reason why you would suggest that .rodeo is a better alternative to .com than .xyz.

 

[Chris Rice]

I told someone to buy advertise.xyz about 6 months ago (1$ reg fee)

Talk is cheap. It would be better for you to share the domains you registered yourself.

 

[JayT]

Talk is cheap. It would be better for you to share the domains you registered yourself.

Okay well, after this you can PM me for advice, because this way off topic. Firstly, I don't have a rodeo domain. Today I reg'd 8 domains, actually someone gave me the money to reg it for them and we'll share the profits. People do that because I'm that good! Just one: heung.cn Heung is a popular Cantonese (Hong Kong, China) surname. Buildings, towns, famous people, many people with this name. It is popular in Korea and other countries too. I will flip that 7$ reg for way, way more than any of your xyz domains, bet?

 

[Chris Rice]

Today I reg'd 8 domains, actually someone gave me the money to reg it for them and we'll share the profits. People do that because I'm that good!

If you are borrowing money to buy $10.00 domain names I doubt you are doing very well. But all of that can change if you do well from now on and into the future. I bought Surnames and First Names too but I will wait before I disclose them in public.

 

[JayT]

If you are borrowing money to buy $10.00 domain names I doubt you are doing very well. But all of that can change if you do well from now on and into the future. I bought Surnames and First Names too but I will wait before I disclose them in public.

I didn't borrow $! I am helping teach so we're using their money and I'm going to be 100% control while they watch and reap the profits with me. I don't usually talk about my better domains neither, but you were the one that asked what I had, otherwise I wouldn't of! I know it is a great domain, if I had such a big ego I would have ran to "reg of the day" and posted it (where practically no one would appreciate it). It just so happened that it came out here under the circumstances.

I don't want to reply with any more irrelevant garbage. It is unfortunate you lured me into an xyz discussion giving the context of your first post. I have a lot of interest in the topic of this post. I disagree with your insinuation that "China will block .com's for a competive edge" has bearing on XYZ. I've made that perfectly clear throughout this thread, so I'm done debating that too. All that's left for me is the TOPIC here, so hopefully some news comes out that we may discus.

 

[JayT]

I'll admit, you know a lot of the facts. Consider you are inside the xyz box and I am outside. Examine facts, the most important being: China has said that they only registries based physically in China will get accreditation. XYZ is USA based. Knowing that, I assume it will be rejected unless a deal goes down.

Now, I can only guess at a motive here, and don't mean to accuse xyz of anything underhanded, but here is an assumption by me of what is going on here:

XYZ will sell out to China. XYZ has what I believe to be a temporary high number of registrations due to their liberal marketing strategy. I believe xyz is a bad extension. Go ahead, ask real people, explain to them cctlds like .co, .cn, .ws even, and see what they prefer. Keen Chinese are just as adept, they love the shorter extensions! No offense, but xyz lovers are following a baseless marketing ploy blindly. XYZ will go to china, become accredited, but it won't matter. It will fail there just as surely. End users are not going to adopt it. Spend some time reading about what is going on outside of xyz and re-evaluate.

 

[Chris Rice]

This was all obvious as early as December of 2015 but for some silly reason most people failed to see it coming (I saw it and posted it here in January).

It is equally obvious that Alphabet will re-brand their .com domains under .xyz. But for now, silliness prevails and only a few people will capitalize on this (before it happens).

I have foresight but most Name Pros rely on hindsight. Both can be good though and I have learned a lot from the professional domainers who rely on trends and historical data. Thanks everyone!

China Issues New Regulations to Police Online Content
Francis Eduard Ang | Feb 26, 2016

• 

The new law requires content to be published on servers found within China.

The Chinese government has released new rules to police online publishing, formalizing already strict online policies and ensuring that content is stored within the nation's borders, as reported by the Wall Street Journal.

The new regulations were jointly issued by the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) and the State Administration of Press, Publication, Radio, Film and Television (SAPPRFT).

These new rules ban companies that are foreign-owned from publishing any content online. However, foreign-invested companies can cooperate with Chinese firms on individual projects, provided they secure a permit from the proper authorities.

All content must also be hosted on servers that are physically located inside China. This includes text, pictures, maps, games, cartoons, videos and audio recordings.

Posted online earlier this week, the new set of rules are set to be implemented on March 10. They require all who are involved in online publishing to secure a permit to be able to continue their activities.

Analysts have said that all the regulations to be released, including limitations of foreign-owned companies, already exist in some form. However, putting it all together in a single set of rules allows the government to have a legal justification for intensifying its protection over the Internet, especially against foreign influences.

Chinese authorities have created several regulations and implemented a law over the last year that left foreign business groups fearful that the regulations can be used to restrict foreign investment in telecommunications as well as other sectors, and coerce them to surrender proprietary technology.

Last year, regulations were adopted to require companies to store data only on servers within the country.

"China wants to make sure that everything is localized, one as a defense against foreign interference, and two to have jurisdiction to be able to go to these servers and control them if necessary," according to Rogier Creemers, a scholar from Oxford University who studies Chinese media policy.

"This is about saying, 'We are going to have boundaries in cyberspace, we are going to delineate our territory on the Internet and we are going to regulate it however we see fit," Creemers added

http://en.yibada.com/articles/106460/20160226/china-issues-new-regulations-police-online-content.htm#ixzz41LBqeH8F

 

[Chris Rice]

XYZ is USA based. Knowing that, I assume it will be rejected unless a deal goes down.

A deal has already 'gone down' and I posted it here (in this thread).

It's up to you to decide if my posts are worth researching, reading and considering.

 

[JayT]

Oh well, I didn't read it. I just looked at xyz website yesterday and didn't see any news of any deal, strange. Sounds like a lot of shady business between friends in attempt to keep XYZ looking squeeky clean. I know if I owned a company (a web based one no less!) That my website would be the FIRST place to break big news such as that. Why so many 2nd/3rd parties?

 

[Chris Rice]

Oh well, I didn't read it. I just looked at xyz website yesterday and didn't see any news of any deal, strange. Sounds like a lot of shady business between friends in attempt to keep XYZ looking squeeky clean. I know if I owned a company (a web based one no less!) That my website would be the FIRST place to break big news such as that. Why so many 2nd/3rd parties?

You're not interested. Enough said and end of conversation. Good luck in the domaining world. I hope you and your friend make it big off of your PINYIN .cn's.

 

[JayT]

You're not interested. Enough said and end of conversation. Good luck in the domaining world. I hope you and your friend make it big off of your PINYIN .cn's.

You just conjure misinterpretations up left and right. FYI, I own and only ever owned 1 .CN domain. I am not attacking you personally whatsoever, yet you love to insinuate my ignorance though sarcasm. You always mask your real agenda in a blanket of facts that have no relevance to said agenda. I don't think you are being straight forward. I can't stand to argue with you anymore, good luck with your XYZ pump and dump, that's what domainers do, right?

 

[Chris Rice]

I can't stand to argue with you anymore, good luck with your XYZ

Good luck with your entire portfolio. I wish you the best.

 

[Chris Rice]

China’s new telecom catalogue comes into force on 1 March 2016: more opportunities for foreign investors?
February, 2016

Key industry sectors

• Technology and innovation

• Starting on 1 March 2016, the Classification Catalogue of Telecommunications Services (2015 Catalogue) will officially take effect, bringing about significant changes to the licensing regime of the Chinese telecom and Internet sectors.
• The 2015 Catalogue demonstrates the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology’s intention to strengthen the regulation of China’s telecom and Internet services, and provides a much needed update of the 2003 version. In recent years new technologies (such as cloud computing, big data and various types of information services) have emerged, and the 2015 Catalogue includes these for the first time.
• Under the 2015 Catalogue, a number of telecom services have been reclassified, and new categories of services are now considered regulated. The most notable changes are in relation to cloud computing services, most of which will now be subject to the licensing requirements. The reclassification will impact upon a number of operators/service providers, which may now be required to apply for new licences (including in relation to services they are already providing).
  
  MIIT has been steadily modernising the regulation of the telecoms and internet sectors, and has introduced a range of legislation to fully open up e-commerce and offshore call centre businesses to private and foreign investment.
• In light of the impending effective date of 1 March 2016, telecom operators and Internet services businesses should review their current business operations in order to ensure compliance with the new licensing requirements.
  
  For foreign investors, foreign investment restrictions for basic telecom and value-added telecom services still continue to apply. However, it is anticipated that the approval process to obtain appropriate licences may be expedited for foreign investors wishing to set up subsidiaries in China to conduct business there (especially for e-commerce and offshore call centre activities, in respect of which foreign investment entry barriers have been fully removed on a national basis).
  
  The Shanghai Free Trade Zone will continue to act as an attractive option for foreign investors to set up a presence in China in order to conduct value-added telecom and internet services. If they set up a subsidiary in the Shanghai Free Trade Zone, foreign investors can take the benefit of additional relaxation of certain market entry requirements in some sectors, such as information services (limited to Apps store), store and forward services, onshore call centres and multi-party telecom services.

Introduction
Telecommunications services in China are classified into two broad categories: basic telecommunications services (BTS) and value-added telecommunications services (VATS), each of which is further classified into various sub-categories (as set out in the Classification Catalogue of Telecommunications Services).

Under the telecommunications regulations, telecom and internet service providers are required to apply for licences for each sub-category of services they may provide. Applications are made to MIIT (or its local counterparts), which is the licence-issuing authority empowered to publish service-specific licensing regulatory rules and to amend the Catalogue as required.

On 24 December 2015, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology’s (MIIT) issued the Classification Catalogue of Telecommunications Services (2015 Catalogue), which will officially take effect as of 1 March 2016.

The 2015 Catalogue demonstrates MIIT’s intention to strengthen the regulation of China telecom and Internet services, and provides a much needed update of the 2003 version. New technologies (such as cloud computing, big data and various types of information service) have been included in the 2015 Catalogue for the first time. The changes introduced by the 2015 Catalogue are likely to have an impact upon both domestic and foreign businesses. It will be crucial for foreign telecom and internet service providers which have entered (or which aspire to enter) the Chinese telecom and internet market to understand the changes introduced by the 2015 Catalogue, and to address their significance in practice.

Major changes signalling MIIT's intention to further regulate

• A new subcategory, “internet-based resources collaboration service”, has been introduced under the Internet Data Centre services. Internet-based resources collaboration services refer to “internet-based data storage, application development, application deployment and operation management”. This means that providers of cloud computing application services (such as infrastructure as a service (IaaS), platform as a service (PaaS), and software as a service (SaaS)) may find their services now covered by this description (requiring them to apply for a licence).
• Information service has been expanded to cover five sub-categories based on the ways information (in the form of text, picture, audio or video) is organised and delivered to end customers.The information service sector has quickly gained momentum in the past decade and extensive changes have been made by MIIT to include more sub-categories in the 2015 Catalogue (reflecting MIIT’s clear intention to expand its regulatory scope in this area).
  
  The five sub-categories of services include the following:
  
  • “information publishing and distribution platforms” (e.g. news websites, mobile news subscriptions, mobile newsletters and customer alerts);
  • “information searches” (e.g. search engines);
  • “information community platforms” (e.g. social network sites, Apps and chat rooms);
  • “information real-time exchanges” (e.g. instant messaging services via text or audio, video chat); and
  • “information protection and processing” (e.g. virus scanning and clearance, information security, spam intercepting and blocking).
• Call centre services have been divided into “domestic call centre services” and “offshore call centre services”.
  
  With the expansion of digital data across a number of industries, there have been correspondingly rapid increases in cross-border transfers of data and in the setting up of offshore call centres.
  Back in 2010, MIIT issued a pilot scheme removing the shareholding restrictions on foreign investors whose businesses provide call centre services to offshore clients and customers. The further division of domestic and offshore call centre services under the 2015 Catalogue reflects MIIT’s ongoing commitment to open up offshore call centre services to foreign investment.

• Re-categorisation of VATS: Type I or Type II
  
  For the first time, MIIT has issued an explanatory note accompanying the 2015 Catalogue to explain the differences between the two broad sub-categories of VATS: Type I VATS and Type II VATS.
  Type I VATS are based on “infrastructure and resources”, which are mostly provided to enterprise users and are more likely to raise concerns in relation to issues such as national information security and social order. Type I VATS include, among others, the following services:
  
  • internet data centre service;
  • content dispatch network; and
  • internet access services.

Type II VATS are based on the “public application platforms”, which are mostly provided to public end customers and are more closely concerned with personal data protection issues. Type II VATS include, among others, the following services:

• online data processing and transaction processing service (for example e-commerce);
• information services;
• call centre services; and
• domestic multi-party real-time communication services.

Under the 2015 Catalogue, online data processing and transaction processing services and domestic multi-party real-time communication services (which used to be Type I VATS) are now re-categorised as Type II VATS. On the other hand, internet access services (which used to be Type II VATS) are now re-categorised as Type I VATS.

Different treatment of Type I and Type II VATS
MIIT adopts a diverging approach when granting licences for Type I and some Type II VATS. Therefore it is important for businesses to examine closely MIIT’s practical treatment of the Type I and Type II VATS when applying for a VATS licence under the 2015 Catalogue.

For Type I VATS, MIIT is likely to apply more stringent criteria when granting licences (given that the services have implications for national information security and social order). MIIT will typically take into account concerns reflected in the Anti-Terrorism Law and the Cyber Security Law (which is currently still in the draft form, but will be finalised soon) when reviewing applications for Type I VATS licences.

For Type II VATS, however, the situation appears to be different. Advances in technology and innovation within the internet sector have typically been equated with Type II VATS. MIIT has introduced service-specific regulations and has fully opened up some of the Type II VATS (that is, online data processing and transaction processing services for e-commerce operations and offshore call centre services) to foreign investors. In effect this reduces market entry requirements for those services which fall under Type II VATS.

Impact on international businesses in China
The 2015 Catalogue does not directly impact upon the scope of telecommunications and internet services a foreign investor may provide in China. This is because the existing restrictions imposed on international businesses by the China Telecommunications Regulations and the Regulations on Administration of Foreign-invested Telecommunications Enterprises continue to apply, restricting the percentage of shares or equity held by a foreign investor to no more than 49% for BTS and no more than 50% for VATS.

The Shanghai Free Trade Zone has promoted a pilot scheme since January 2014. Under it, foreign investors can benefit from additional relaxations of foreign ownership restrictions for selected VATS services (such as information services (limited to Apps store), e-commerce, store and forward services, call centres and multi-party communications services).

The ongoing move towards liberalisation of China’s telecom and internet market is particularly apparent in the full opening up of two areas of activity to foreign investment on a national basis: online data processing and transaction processing (for e-commerce operations) and offshore call centre services. In these areas foreign investors are permitted to hold up to 100% of shares or equity. This change was introduced by service-specific legislations published by MIIT before the 2015 Catalogue was issued.

What next?
The 2015 Catalogue provides more regulatory clarity to the range of services that has emerged in recent years as well as laying a foundation for MIIT to issue more service-specific regulations to address more opportunities for foreign investment. Such liberalisation will be of particular interest to foreign investors, who should take into account new service-specific policies introduced by MIIT before exploring new investment opportunities in China’s telecommunications sector.

In the meantime, businesses which currently operate in China should be mindful of the changes introduced by the 2015 Catalogue. From 1 March 2016 onwards, the MIIT will grant licences for telecommunications services in accordance with the 2015 Catalogue. Licences granted to existing licence holders prior to that date will continue to be valid within the stipulated scope and for the full term of the relevant licence. However, existing licence holders must nevertheless review their current business practices and apply for a new licence if any of their existing services become subject to the licensing requirements under the 2015 Catalogue.


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