China will block .com's for a competive edge.

[Chris Rice]

The above statement is just a prediction of mine. Blocking .com's for an unfair advantage over US company's would not be beyond them and it is definitely doable. Verisign does not even have a license to use or sell .com's in China, it was only tolerated. But that might change very soon (effective March 1, 2016)

Research MIIT, the Chinese government organization that regulates the internet and domain names in China. This has all been talked about for quite sometime, long before Google re-organized under abc.xyz (do some research for once). It was also well understood that .xyz and .club would be two of the first foreign registrars to get a license in China.

According to Daniel Negari, XYZ is the only U.S. registrar to apply for a license in China AND coordinate with ICANN about it. While a lot of .com loyalists have been bashing new GTLD's a lot of people have been in the background hand registering cheap domain names. A lot of large .COM portfolio holders already sold out and domain name news outlets are slowly easing on their criticism.

TheDomains was right, it will take an intense marketing campaign by at least 2 to 3 major brands. He mentions the Super Bowl as a good example and if you do some research, that is exactly what's happening.

ChrisRice.xyz

 

[Chris Rice]

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China vows to strengthen manufacturing via internet
(Xinhua)
Updated: 2016-05-21 08:55:31

Robots work at an automatic welding production line in Liaocheng, East China's Shandong province, July 5, 2014.[Photo/VCG]

BEIJING - The Chinese government reaffirmed the need to shore up manufacturing through internet platforms and information technology to upgrade traditional industry.


Combining manufacturing with the internet will help revitalize traditional industries and release more growth potential, according to a guideline document released by the State Council, China's cabinet.

By 2018, eighty percent of manufacturing companies should build online platforms. By 2025, online infrastructure should be used throughout the industry to raise competitiveness, it said.

Last year, China unveiled the "Made in China 2025" blueprint, which aims to improve manufacturing and shift the country away from low-end manufacturing to more value-added production.

Also last year, China announced the "Internet Plus" initiative to enable more businesses to take advantage of the internet.

According to the document, the government also pledged supportive policies in financing, taxation, land and human resources to develop internet-based manufacturing.

http://m.chinadaily.com.cn/en/2016-05/21/content_25399447.htm

 

[Chris Rice]

Schmidt Says Chinese Government Will Determine When Google, Gmail And YouTube Return
BY DAVID GILBERT @DAITHAIGILBERT ON05/24/16 AT 11:22 AM

AMSTERDAM — Alphabet Inc. says it is working on getting Google's services available once again in China, but says the problem lies with the Chinese government.

Speaking at Startup Fest Europe, Alphabet's executive chairman and former CEO of Google, Eric Schmidt, said: “We are working on [getting back into China]. I think our role in China is largely determined not by us but by what the Chinese government will allow.”

Schmidt told the audience of developers and entrepreneurs that Google withdrew almost all of its services from China in 2010 because the company was “uncomfortable with [China's] laws, which have not gotten better since we left.”

Since 2010 the Chinese economy has exploded, with the smartphone market alone growing from 50 million mobile users to 700 million. While Android-based smartphones dominate the Chinese market, Google is not making any money from the sale of those smartphones because its services (Gmail, search, Google Maps, YouTube and Google Play) are not available.

“What my Chinese friends say is that they want Google,” Schmidt said, because the company’s competitors that still operate in China do so under strict restrictions that make it very difficult. Asked if public demand for access to Google and its various services could sway the Chinese government to change its restrictions, Schmidt said: “There is always hope.”

Reports earlier this year suggested Google was ready to announce a Chinese version of its Play Store for Android, but no announcement was made at the company's annual developer conference last week. However, CEO Sundar Pichai did make a reference to China, highlighting the fact that over 1 million people in the country were watching the live stream of the conference keynote.

Last week a Chinese newspaper reported that Google was in talks with Chinese internet company Sohu to partner on Chinese internet searches. Under the deal being discussed, Google "would perform some of the searches," while Sohu.com's search engine, Sohu, would screen the results, the South China Morning Post said in its report.

http://www.ibtimes.com/google-china...ment-will-determine-when-google-gmail-2373467

 

[Chris Rice]

This is How a Bloody U.S.-China War Could Start

Editor's note: The following is a translation of Chapter 14 of the book If the U.S.and China Go to War《假如中美开战》 by the author and analyst Chen Pokong. The current volume was published in Chinese in 2013 and was later translated to Japanese.

The chapter sketches the hypothetical beginnings of a conflict scenario between the United States and China. In it, the U.S. responds to provocative Chinese cyberattacks by launching one of its own, tearing down the Great Firewall. In response, Chinese authorities clamp down Internet access completely, which America quickly responds to. Ultimately, regime-organized street violence endangers the lives of American consular staff, and U.S.-China relations quickly descend from the current modus vivendi to outright hostilities.

Read the rest here:
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/how-bloody-us-china-war-could-start-16383

 

[Chris Rice]

China may be the largest domain market

June 11, 2016 by Kassey Lee 3 Comments

The difference in clear. As reported by eName, the auction in the 2016 Global Domain Industry Summit held in Hangzhou, China brought in over 300m CNY of domain sales. That is about 46m USD!

READ MORE:
http://tldinvestors.com/2016/06/china-may-be-the-largest-domain-market.html

 

[Chris Rice]

IMO Chinese .XYZ buyout is already past it's peak. We will likely see huge drops regardless of this approval happening or not.

It looks like you were wrong. The Chinese buyout hadn't even started.

.XYZ now has twice the amount of registrations since the time of your post and the approval hasn't even been announced yet. But it is coming. Slowly but surely.

Once the registrations get high enough, an increase in aftermarket prices will be next.

Here are the latest tweets about .XYZ on Twitter: @Zandibot @JB Lions @Kate

Jun 23
DanielNegari ‏@DanielNegari
Boom! @xyz just got a key ICANN approval. #GenXYZ

XYZ ‏@xyz
XYZ has touched down in Helsinki! Doing a little bit of touring before our #ICANN meetings tomorrow

 

[Chris Rice]

China moves closer to adopting controversial cybersecurity law

Reuters
June 27, 2016

The Google logo is seen on the top of its China headquarters building, behind a road surveillance camera in Beijing March 15, 2010. REUTERS/Jason Lee


BEIJING (Reuters) - China moved closer on Monday to adopting a controversial cybersecurity law, after parliament held a second reading of the draft rules, which carry significant consequences for domestic and foreign business and threaten greater censorship.

China enforces widespread controls over the internet that it has sought to codify in law, and Chinese laws often go through multiple readings and drafts before they are adopted.

The draft, presented before the standing committee of the National People's Congress, requires network operators to comply with social morals and accept the supervision of the government and public, official news agency Xinhua said.

It also reiterated that Chinese citizens' personal data, as well as "important business data" must be stored domestically, adding that those wishing to provide that information overseas faced a government security evaluation.

Parliament has not yet published the full second draft of the cybersecurity law and it is not clear when it may be passed.

Cybersecurity has been a particularly irksome area in China's relations with economic partners such as the United States and the European Union, which see many recently proposed rules as unfair to foreign firms.

Chinese officials say internet restrictions, including the blocking of popular foreign sites like Google and Facebook, are needed to ensure security against growing threats, such as terrorism.

The first draft of the cybersecurity law, published almost a year ago, stiffened user privacy protection from hackers and data resellers but also boosted the government's powers to access and block dissemination of private information records that Chinese law deems illegal.

China's broadly-defined regulations have been a source of concern, especially for foreign governments, multinational companies and rights activists, which worry that the government can interpret the law as it sees fit.

Chinese companies have also been on the receiving end of government efforts to tighten control of the internet.

Regulators last month set limits on the number of lucrative healthcare advertisements carried by Baidu Inc after a student died following an experimental cancer treatment he uncovered by using China's biggest internet search engine.

(Reporting by Paul Carsten and Michael Martina; Editing by Clarence Fernandez)

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/china-mov...al-cybersecurity-law-113358360--business.html

 

[dordomai]

It looks like you were wrong. The Chinese buyout hadn't even started.

.XYZ now has twice the amount of registrations since the time of your post and the approval hasn't even been announced yet. But it is coming. Slowly but surely.

They had to give away free domains to make it seem to grow and give them away at a loss. That means that people weren't buying enough domains.

Also when I said Chinese buyout I was referring to the Chinese buyout of domains in general not one single extension.

It really has slowed down a lot and we have seen values dropping for months.

 

[Chris Rice]

They had to give away free domains to make it seem to grow and give them away at a loss. That means that people weren't buying enough domains.

But you are missing the bigger picture.

XYZ wasn't caught of gaurd by low demand and it wasn't a short sighted decision to sell domains "for a loss".

This has been part of the game plan since 2012, as indicated on Frank Schilling's personal blog. And the funny thing is that you and other .com loyalists are commenting moment by moment while XYZ, Frank Schilling and Google Domains are executing a 5 to 10 year marketing plan.

You might critisize the tactics that Daniel Negari employs but this is really the only way to break the .com monoply.

- Repeat boom-and-bust hype cycles over and over again to generate interest, discussion and awareness, then when things start to peak there will be an announcement made to vindicate Daniel Negari, XYZ and all of their predictions.

This type of result is actually a rare occurance. The common philosophy in the stock market is "Buy on Rumor, Sell on News" since most of the hype is usually exaggerated. But this is one of the rare investments that will actually pay off and reach it's full potential.

I will still sell some domains into the news but I will keep 100 to 300 to develop myself, domain names that are in line with my life-long passions. I will also wait for a Mega-Announcement before selling a large part of my portfolio.

 

[dordomai]

XYZ wasn't caught of gaurd by low demand and it wasn't a short sighted decision to sell domains "for a loss".

The giveaway started exactly when the 2 year renewals were due and massive drops were occuring.

This has been part of the game plan since 2012, as indicated on Frank Schilling's personal blog. And the funny thing is that you and other .com loyalists are commenting moment by moment while XYZ, Frank Schilling and Google Domains are executing a 5 to 10 year marketing plan.

Giving away free domains is not a good long-term marketing plan. The .TK registry has already done this and it has the worst reputation of all.

Google does not care that much about domains, they gave away many of their good strings or lost auctions they could have easily won.

I don't think that nGTLDs are one of their main priorities so far.

Right if anyone had the money and eyeballs to move the market it would be Google. .XYZ is not a Google string so it would make more sense to place the bets where there is the money and following to make things happen.

Repeat boom-and-bust hype cycles over and over again to generate interest, discussion and awareness, then when things start to peak there will be an announcement made to vindicate Daniel Negari, XYZ and all of their predictions.

You are reading Negari's blog too much. Read some other sources as well.

The interest and discussion is mostly inside the domain community and most domainers don't think highly of .xyz thanks to their deceptive advertising practices and other assorted BS. (see Netsol account stuffing for example)

A registry that is deceptive and that appears shady is not good for an extension that needs to appear trustworthy. In reality they sabotaged their efforts to become a trusted brand from day one when they pulled the Netsol stunt. They opted for hype and crash and burn The brand is more likely to be perceived as a rule breaker, disrupting the status quo, that is where they have positioned themselves. That is their market but this is a different market where .com, .net or .org are.

.com is boring but it is trusted, secure, stable, established.

.XYZ is flashy, hype, drama entirely different brand and market.

They are different and they won't replace each other.

.XYZ will never be a popular corporate extension for the following reasons:

1. They are 20 years late.
2. The string is weird
3. Their marketing strategy and brand is not geared towards it.

Even if .XYZ had launched in the nineties, companies would have mostly gone to .com (company, commercial)

20 years later the odds are not better.

How exactly they will be used and what degree of success they will have will be seen.

So far(2 years after launch) there is no real aftermarket for it.

 

[Chris Rice]

The giveaway started exactly when the 2 year renewals were due and massive drops were occuring.



Giving away free domains is not a good long-term marketing plan. The .TK registry has already done this and it has the worst reputation of all.

Google does not care that much about domains, they gave away many of their good strings or lost auctions they could have easily won.

I don't think that nGTLDs are one of their main priorities so far.

Right if anyone had the money and eyeballs to move the market it would be Google. .XYZ is not a Google string so it would make more sense to place the bets where there is the money and following to make things happen.



You are reading Negari's blog too much. Read some other sources as well.

The interest and discussion is mostly inside the domain community and most domainers don't think highly of .xyz thanks to their deceptive advertising practices and other assorted BS. (see Netsol account stuffing for example)

A registry that is deceptive and that appears shady is not good for an extension that needs to appear trustworthy. In reality they sabotaged their efforts to become a trusted brand from day one when they pulled the Netsol stunt. They opted for hype and crash and burn The brand is more likely to be perceived as a rule breaker, disrupting the status quo, that is where they have positioned themselves. That is their market but this is a different market where .com, .net or .org are.

.com is boring but it is trusted, secure, stable, established.

.XYZ is flashy, hype, drama entirely different brand and market.

They are different and they won't replace each other.

.XYZ will never be a popular corporate extension for the following reasons:

1. They are 20 years late.
2. The string is weird
3. Their marketing strategy and brand is not geared towards it. (Also corporate executives are not teenagers)

Even if .XYZ had launched in the nineties, companies would have mostly gone to .com (company, commercial)

20 years later the odds are not better.

How exactly they will be used and what degree of success they will have will be seen.

So far(2 years after launch) there is no real aftermarket for it.

I guess we can agree to disagree. @dordomai

Time will tell who is right, and who is wrong.

Thank you for the healthy discussion ☺

 

[dordomai]

I guess we can agree to disagree. @dordomai

Time will tell who is right, and who is wrong.

Thank you for the healthy discussion ☺

Right. It doesn't matter what we write in forums. We can only wait and see.

I have seen some former predictions of Schilling and they were really accurate. Some not so.

Same is true for Rick Schwartz he got many things right and some predictions turned out to completely off.

I would say 2-3 years from now it should be clear in which direction things are going.

Personally I am not basing my guesses so much on registration numbers because I believe a large part of what we are seeing are speculative or protective registrations. .TK is incredibly large in terms of registration numbers but in reality it is irrelevant.

The only thing that will matter over the long term is development.

 

[Chris Rice]

Right. It doesn't matter what we write in forums. We can only wait and see.

I have seen some former predictions of Schilling and they were really accurate. Some not so.

Same is true for Rick Schwartz he got many things right and some predictions turned out to completely off.

I would say 2-3 years from now it should be clear in which direction things are going.

Personally I am not basing my guesses so much on registration numbers because I believe a large part of what we are seeing are speculative or protective registrations. .TK is incredibly large in terms of registration numbers but in reality it is irrelevant.

The only thing that will matter over the long term is development.

Yeah, that's true. And it definitely isn't good to invest in anything unless you are 100% sure in terms of being and feeling comfortable with that specific investment.

And even if I am right, you could still buy in after news hits (if it does) since .xyz domains wouldn't go from $.01 to $10k overnight.

There would probably be tons of $50.00 - $500.00 sales if something incredible happened (i.e. Facebook switches to .xyz). And your investments would practically be risk free (if spectacular news hits).

Most of my money is tied up in real estate and family bills so I would not be able to buy a large portfolio of domains for $100+ each. That is why I invested early, since it is only $0.20 - $2.00 per domain. I also want to corner a specific market in a single TLD and I could definitely not do that in .com.

So we have different positions in life but I respect your posts. I am sure you will do well. This is an exciting time to be in the domaining industry, even if you don't invest in nGTLDs @dordomai ☺

 

[Chris Rice]

When I first posted my theory about China in January of 2016, most of you thought I was on crack or in an alternate Universe.

My perspective on China was questioned and "experts" on NamePros said that China would "never isolate themselves" on the level that I was predicting.

Well, China has done the unthinkable and even went a step farther:

They drafted laws to ban foriegn companies from Publishing in China altogether!

(forget only banning .com's)

As more news comes out the picture is getting clearer. China will not allow Google or Facebook to publish in China, and maybe never again (or as long as the Communist Party is in Power).

FB and Google will instead work with a Chinese company(s) as a "Technology Partner" and find a way to profit off of the Chinese market that way.

If I can see a couple steps ahead into the future Google and Facebook can see 5 to 10 steps ahead. And the fact is, Verisign has never announced anything about gaining MIIT approval other than saying that they can try to apply (look it up). Verisign is instead focusing on International IDNs in each country's foriegn language (look this up too).

And without MIIT approval, a TLD will eventually be blocked and banned in China, even if it is the legendary .com (the Government will probably take it's sweet time in order to scrape the Real Name Verification Data).

I am almost certain that the partners of Facebook and Google will publish their technology under a Chinese company(s) using .XYZ domain(s) as it will represent the United States in a Chinese friendly extension.

And for the people who wonder why Chinese buyers were flooding the .com market with money, whose to say they will always use those domains to host websites?

They can easily forward all of their .com's to their State approved-TLD counterparts and their investment in .com will retain it's value, especially if they do it as a collective or Government imposed effort. This is one way that the Chinese Government can prop. up their state approved TLDs.

And one more thing, if Google can see 10 steps ahead, China is trying to see 15 to 20 steps ahead. And if the ICANN transitions to IANA they will create a new Internet economy, one where China holds much more influence.

P.S. I'm not saying that we shouldn't transfer ICANN to IANI, but there is a correlation between China's threats to block unapproved extensions and the 2015, and now the 2016 deadline to transition ICANN.

@Zandibot @Kate @JB Lions @MasterOfMyDomains @Brandingtheweb.com @rokaska7 @dordomai @Eric Lyon

 

[dordomai]

If .com were to be banned they would just be using the highly popular .cn or the well established .com.cn not a new and unknown extension.

 

[Kate]

They can easily forward all of their .com's to their State approved-TLD counterparts and their investment in .com will retain it's value, especially if they do it as a collective or Government imposed effort. This is one way that the Chinese Government can prop. up their state approved TLDs.

Do you realize that this statement doesn't make sense. This is not even necessary. China could instead force Chinese companies to host in China (by restricting access to non-Chinese IP addresses). This they already do I think.

Plus, I agree with the above, they already have .cn, plus other extensions based on Chinese soil. They don't need .xyz.

Banning .com altogether isn't the aim, the aim is total online control of the populace and they are achieving this through different means.

 

[dordomai]

It's less about extensions they simply don't want Chinese to be able to register and operate domains anonymously.

 

[Chris Rice]

I know that blocking .com is not China's ultimate goal but I also believe it is one of the details in their overall plan.

Verisign would be making statements about MIIT approval if it was in their game plan for .com but it's not. They are pursuing International IDNs instead (look it up).

I respect your opinion and perspective @Kate @dordomai and I have not been right about everything, but I did predict the "Draconian" clamp down by China, and the massive jump in .XYZ registrations started during the Superbowl (2016) like I predicted (check the chart).

I stand by my prediction that .XYZ will break the Verisign triopoly and that it will benefit the companies (Google, Amazon, Wordpress, etc.) who invested (or will invest) more than $100 million USD in GTLDs as a whole. Their efforts will not be subdued.

 

[dordomai]

Verisign would be making statements about MIIT approval if it was in their game plan for .com but it's not. They are pursuing International IDNs instead (look it up).

Just because they didn't announce anything doesn't mean that they don't care. Unless we have clear statement from them they decide to exit the Chinese market it is a daydream.

The IDN launch is in many languages not just Chinese and had been plannned for years. This is an additional product that they will launch and will not replace their flagship product which is .com

That being said, they are not that stupid and won't kill their cash cow .com and .net in China. Which will continue to be the money maker for them. They don't expect .IDN to get that many registrations. Look up the previously launched strings.

In reality the approval is not such a big deal. That's why they are not talking about it. They don't need to hype themselves.

It was only the .XYZ registry that tried to hype it and exploit the confusion that it caused among some domain investors.(deceptive as always)

This is just marketing. Let's stick to the facts not some deceptive marketing.

Instead you should ask yourself why your favorite registry is constantly trying to twist the facts to make them seem better than they are?

Will this be a good strategy to deceive if you want to become a brand that Fortune 500 companies are trusting?

I stand by my prediction that .XYZ will break the Verisign Triopoly and that it will benefit the companies who invested (or will invest) more than $100 million USD in GTLDs as a whole. Their efforts will not be subdued.

If that were to happen the .com registry would officially be the most incompetent in the in the world. Throwing away a virtually perfect(and legal) monopoly in one of the biggest markets, their only money maker, just because they are not interested in doing a simple approval that many other small registries (see Rightside, Minds and Machines, .XYZ) are getting without any major problems.

Why would they give up 95% of their revenue in China?

Unless you can come up with a good reason for that you are daydreaming.

 

[Chris Rice]

Just because they didn't announce anything doesn't mean that they don't care. Unless we have clear statement from them they decide to exit the Chinese market it is a daydream.

The IDN launch is in many languages not just Chinese and had been plannned for years. This is an additional product that they will launch and will not replace their flagship product which is .com

That being said, they are not that stupid and won't kill their cash cow .com and .net in China. Which will continue to be the money maker for them. They don't expect .IDN to get that many registrations. Look up the previously launched strings.

In reality the approval is not such a big deal. That's why they are not talking about it. They don't need to hype themselves.

It was only the .XYZ registry that tried to hype it and exploit the confusion that it caused among some domain investors.(deceptive as always)

This is just marketing. Let's stick to the facts not some deceptive marketing.

Instead you should ask yourself why your favorite registry is constantly trying to twist the facts to make them seem better than they are?

Will this be a good strategy to deceive if you want to become a brand that Fortune 500 companies are trusting?



If that were to happen the .com registry would officially be the most incompetent in the in the world. Throwing away a virtually perfect(and legal) monopoly in one of the biggest markets, their only money maker, just because they are not interested in doing a simple approval that many other small registries (see Rightside, Minds and Machines, .XYZ) are getting without any major problems.

Why would they give up 95% of their revenue in China?

Unless you can come up with a good reason for that you are daydreaming.

In February of 2016, Verisign said in effect that they can try to apply for MIIT accreditation (look it up) or in other words, they hadn't even started yet (XYZ and CLUB started 12 to 24 months ago). If they could apply for accreditation and didn't "they would officially be the most incompetent [company] in the world". That leads me to believe that didn't have a choice, and could not apply.

Let's see what happens when .XYZ and .CLUB get approved. I believe .COM will be allowed to operate in China for some time to scrape the Real Name Verification Data, but once it is in the interest of China, they will block .COM and promote their regulated TLDs (.cn and .com.cn are not the only ones).

It will also be much harder to impose China's regulations on .COM than a new GTLD.
- XYZ worked a revenue sharing deal with a Chinese company for 1, and customers, Executives and shareholders of .COM might be less than willing to bend over backward to meet the demands of China.

 

[nomen]

Not taking sides, not read the whole thread, not that interested in domains geared towards China in general but I do remember reading something similar that @Chris Rice is suggesting a couple of years ago from somewhere (that at the time seemed legit). Can't recall the details of the article but the bottomline was to get rid off .COMs on Chinese operated businesses in the long run. And yes, it didn't make that much sense to me then. And doesn't make now either. But that's what I read.