.tv Can't believe how bad tv sales

[hullswingerscom]

cant believe how bad tv sales and allthings.tv

i cant believe how bad tv sales are at namepros does anyone ever get a good sale.?sorry state of affairs.
and after listening to the blog cast at allthings.tv were the guy gets mixed up with com and tv in the first minute goes to show we have a long way to go.

 

[boboski]

dont look to make a killing here lol. go for ultimate end users.

 

[localexperts]

Most of the high dollar sales are not reported because the buyers don't want to inflate the market.

 

[vaunter]

"between gypsies we don´t read each other hands".

* a popular phrase in Mx.

 

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

Yes

"between gypsies we don´t read each other hands".

* a popular phrase in Mx.

Best one yet! I think all Namepros members are gypsies!

Gypsy: One inclined to a nomadic, unconventional way of life. Also cheap, unwilling to pay more than reg fee for good domain names!


Frank

 

[jeffoverman]

I am seeing that trend as well for good generic terms.

Agree go after end users.

I am actually trying sedo on couple .tv names but mainly I am not a seller. Been turning down some tempting offers

Local is right. I prefer to not announce my buys unless I have to

The big names are behind closed doors. I bet a good portion of them are. Going say this again, my buddy had a 18k sale occur and that hasn't been leaked. Then I know couple people with 3k sales and one for 8k.

I don't really worry on sales so much because I know the players are not announcing things. The smaller domainers like the majority of us I agree on. Prime example, females.tv for 650 I think or 550. Not sure why the seller listed it that low but he got what he wanted. Buyer got a steal. Maybe seller needed a quick flip or deal another name. Sorry seller, didn't mean to put you on the spot.

National had the sales figures for comparison. Strong growth but I would say its so low vs actual sales. That works for me, I am in a hold mood, taking a break and not doing anything. Actually I want this for the next 4 to 6 months personally so I can do another round of big buying when sellers are scrambling for quick sales. That's what I am hopping. Most people will disagree with what I just said or the flipers here.

 

[equity78]

Everyone approaches this business different. First and foremost this is not a get rich quick business. So those coming to .tv in 2007 should not have come in looking to make big$$$ from wholesale domain sales in their first year.

Reasons for this:
1) Coming in fresh in 2007 you came into an extension that had been thoroughly picked over for the last two years. Some decent nuggets available but not too many non premium .tv that are going to bring about X,xxx sales on the reseller level.

2) Coming to this forum you came to the most educated group of .tv domain owners on the internet. People are not going to overpay at the reseller level.

3) Many here are trying to do the same thing you are doing but have had 2 or 3 years experience in the .tv market which is not the .com market. You make a mistake on a .com registration you can still get $3 or $4 of your $7 investment back. In .tv people usually do not buy a mistake for $15 because they know the renewal going to be a new $25 to $50. They could buy two fresh .com for $15. People are always posting threads wanted for .com cheap for a couple $$$ people do not do that with .tv domains. This is important feature at the reseller level.

There are a lot of premium domains still available. Meaning people have choice in .tv like they do not have in .com.

You should not be regging .tv domains that you do not have some plan for or idea for development. You should not make a lot of so-so regs because .tv expensive. 3 1/2 to 1 .com vs .tv price ratio for a registration. Again 1 bad .com is just $7 that maybe you can get $5 back for quick, or on Namepros sell for some NP$

So be patient and unless you have a focus and a budget like domainacrobat or searchingtv QUALITY OVER QUANTITY. Again IMO

 

[hullswingerscom]

i AGREE with all what you say ..all i was saying is people sell domain names on namepros but they dont seem to sell very well,thats all yet they still do it.
asi have said a few time ill give dot tv 10 years to get anywere thays how long it has taken me to get my business were it is today ,i cant see why dot tv should be any different

You should not be regging .tv domains that you do not have some plan for or idea for development this is a good point you make.

 

[htmlindex]

Totally agree with you Equity & Hulls, only invest in names that you have some sort of development plan or idea for that name. I see a number of names in the for sale section that I wonder why people have even registered when there are a lot better names sitting there available to be registered. Just takes a bit more time searching for decent names & being more selective in what you buy.

 

[jeffoverman]

Equity has seen a lot since he has started this thread.

Some good advice.

You get more bang for the buck with the .com and everyone does .com

This pre pricing worries me down the road but let the deep pocket people do that. I know I am not in that position to be paying 10,000 to 40,000 yearly fees on a quality name or portfolio and continue to pay that say 5 years time hopping .tv catches fire. Every day I think do I buy a generic term and just pay the 300 a year. The most I would do ever is 500 a year.

2 years of people being here vs like me. I am a late comer. Came in .tv this year. .tv was the best thing for me personally. Believe in the concept and development. Actually I am seeing some nice in traffic on my .tv and ppc. Seeing that the past 3 weeks with nice moves upward. Up a 100 percent since couple months back. For sure people here and the deep pocket people have had there advantage and grabbed a lot. Even with 2 years of big grabbing, I am coming across with good key terms with nice search results. Still can be done though.

I am happy where my stuff is headed name wise. I think there has been a few geo owners either they didn't take advantage of enom 50 percent off plan or they held so many names that there trying unload fast just to cover some of there names. I don't know, I am not in that league.

If .tv catches fire in 5 years which I think it will the geo owners benefit first. They will have to play major catch up the past few years just to break even. That ties back into the auction issue again and when or if .tv will sell in these big events

I try to look at things both ways and analize a lot of things. One day I am dying to pick up a nice quality name and do the 500 a year or 300, the other day I am happy in not being committed and be tying up so much on one name.

Hedge my bets. I admit I have a lot in .tv but all my names I did grab either has a purpose in feature development ideas or high search key terms or I think how a platform can be built

I don't know all the answers. I am sure some people agree with me that sure we may not have the all geos on earth but me personally I know I can sleep at night not dreading on fees and how will the money be juggled unless you have investors.

Some good points equity.

Perks of having newbies, deep pocket geo owners, people flipping, people developing, people hedging formats, people buying more .com and selling .tv and etc and etc.

I love what I am seeing though and namepros and .tv thread is amazing. Thanks equity! A lot of credit should be going to you on the success of .tv thread when you were in early.

J

 

[equity78]

Jeff I am not saying for those coming in now there is not opportunity, I meant to sell at the reseller level. The op was talking about sales here which are at the reseller level. There is plenty of opportunity for someone starting today IMO.

And I agree I would never pay over $500 for a premium either. Never have never would. With one exception $1000 LL.tv the one in my sig is company owned Lance and Myself so that was $500 each.

But at $500 there is plenty of opportunity. A good LLL.tv or keyword. It is better to have 2 good $500 Premium IMO than having 50 so - so no traffic .tv you paying $1200 to $2000 a year for those 50 vs premiums that get some traffic and get offers in the x,xxx.

I think what someone should do before regging one domain is figure their annual budget. I want to spend $1500 a year How do I best spend the money? Then start regging. Do not reg every other day, with no plan, no running tab of what the renewal budget needs to be and getting disorganized. Again IMO