.tv Top 100 Domain Sales of 2010 - .TV Officially Ranks #3.

[Vito]

It's Official
.TV is now Ranked higher in Top 100 Sales for 2010 than .info AND .net combined!!!

The .Tv tld's Past has nothing to do with .TV's Full Speed Ahead Future.

This years Domain Sales Reports Top 100 Sales have had not looked so great for .TV pre April 8th, 2010.

There has not been one .TV sale reported in the Top 100 until April 8th...

That's when the .TV Party Really Kicked in!

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Thx,
Vito.

 

[Jeff]

Thanks for the post, but other than getting rid of some HEFTY annual renewal fees for .TV's and some recent chatter & hoopla; I don't necessarily see what has materially changed for this 10+/+ year old ccTLD, IMHO.
And there is still a MAJOR issue looming with the existing 'Premium .TV' holders!

As importantly, how have you arrived at stating "It's Official" ... when Sedo hasn't even confirmed / verified any of the closings and we still don't know who the "buyers" are?
IYHO.

Regards,
Jeff

 

[freedom30]

Thanks, dotster, for all of your efforts and info in giving a reason why this extension ROCKS and ISN'T SLOWING DOWN!

The ,tv extension is gaining momentum that NO ONE is going to slow down now. It is becoming VISIBLE as a lower-priced, cost effective alternative to the dot com's that are available but have a HUGE price tag attached to it for those who may have wanted a keyword for their market but not the deep pocket for the name...

Even in the top price bracket #3, this formidable extension is hugely more affordable than it's fellow extensions. Which is why I say:

.tv - Go ahead...turn it on! :lala:

Kudos to you, Mr. V, and keep rollin with .tv!!!

 

[DU]

Here's to your third entry not taking so long

I don't think the excitement is ever going to die down with you is it!

 

[freedom30]

Here's to your third entry not taking so long

I don't think the excitement is ever going to die down with you is it!

His enthusiasm CREATES VISIBILITY as well! It is addictive and the right extension at the right time to get enthusiastic about.

Looking for that 3rd entry as well. Take your time, Mr. V, and do it righton!!! :gn:

 

[iamkali]

His enthusiasm CREATES VISIBILITY as well! It is addictive and the right extension at the right time to get enthusiastic about.

Looking for that 3rd entry as well. Take your time, Mr. V, and do it righton!!! :gn:

No reason to stop now.

 

[antonis12]

Thanks for the post, but other than getting rid of some HEFTY annual renewal fees for .TV's and some recent chatter & hoopla; I don't necessarily see what has materially changed for this 10+/+ year old ccTLD, IMHO.

IYHO.

Regards,
Jeff

Well, given that the premium renewals were the #1 issue that detractors of the TLD brought up as a hindrance, I am not sure this is an immaterial item. As you point out the job is half-done, but let's wait and see.

Surely the situation is substantially better than it was 1 month ago. You would have never seen anything resembling the SEDO auction without that change.

 

[Jeff]

You would have never seen anything resembling the SEDO auction without that change.

^ I agree (and also, obviously, with the job being "half-done") ... removing the hefty annual renewal fees for those Premium auctioned items had a predictable correlation with both increased discussion chatter & bidding by like-minded domainers; but how is it any (substantially) better for the vast majority of ".TV" owners (including those trying to sell their inflated (ie, expectations as a result of the hyped auctions) .TV domain names in the various forums) or an developed, stand-alone "ecosystem"? :blink:
IYHO.

Kind regards,
Jeff

 

[freedom30]

Well, given that the premium renewals were the #1 issue that detractors of the TLD brought up as a hindrance, I am not sure this is an immaterial item. As you point out the job is half-done, but let's wait and see.

Surely the situation is substantially better than it was 1 month ago. You would have never seen anything resembling the SEDO auction without that change.

...right, and the fact that it is moving steadily along a predetermined path bodes well for its future as well. Let's see what surprises are in store for the extension in the months ahead.

I would be hesitant to listen to or heed the unintelligent advice and off the cuff opinions of those who can only suppose and second guess the drama that is presently unfolding in the .tv realm.

Leave 'em alone, have fun in what you are doing and don't try to convert anybody. Not only you can't do it, you shouldn't want to. That's what's gonna make it fun!

 

[Vito]

I don't necessarily see what has materially changed for this 10+/+ year old ccTLD, IMHO.

C'mon Jeff, seriously?
What has materially changed for .TV???
Most of the Premiums are gone forever.
and 111 .TV's sold for 3/4 of a mllion dollars in one day, which puts .TV high on the sales charts which has never been done before for this extension.
$750,000 is pretty damn material if you ask me.

And there is still a MAJOR issue looming with the existing 'Premium .TV' holders!

Agree 100%
I feel bad for all of those investors, and I'm glad I wasn't involved 4+ years ago or I woulda been there too.
Everyone agrees there will be a bit of a black eye to the extension until that final problem is resolved, but even YOU have to admit even with that little black eye .TV has, It has still kicked some major A$$ this week!

As importantly, how have you arrived at stating "It's Official" ... when Sedo hasn't even confirmed / verified any of the closings and we still don't know who the "buyers" are?
IYHO.

Regards,
Jeff

Official auction sales Results, thats it.
I assume we will all read the same absolute "Official" .Tv Auction News on Wednesday.

Thanks, dotster, for all of your efforts and info in giving a reason why this extension ROCKS and ISN'T SLOWING DOWN!
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Thanks a million freedom!

Here's to your third entry not taking so long

I don't think the excitement is ever going to die down with you is it!

thx, it will not take another year...I'll shoot for a week!

and NO! :lol:



and Thx to those of you who visited my site, read my entry, and commented on my Blog Post,(Alessandro, Ken, and Makis). As goofy as it sounds, It really means a lot to log in the next day, and see some cool comments there, and definitely makes me want to continue writing.

Much Appreciated You guys!
Vito.

 

[Jeff]

C'mon Jeff, seriously?
What has materially changed for .TV??

In my post(s), I agreed with Antonis regarding, "You would have never seen anything resembling the SEDO auction without that change"; and another reminder that we are still waiting for confirmations / verifications of closings at recent Sedo auction, IMHO. :blink:

Those "sales" aside for a moment; again, HOW is it any (substantially) better for the vast majority of ".TV" owners (including those trying to sell their inflated (ie., heightened expectations as a result of the hyped auctions) .TV domain names in the various forums) ... or for an fully developed, stand-alone "ecosystem"? :gl:
IYHO.

Best regards,
Jeff

 

[freedom30]

Hey, Dotster,

I agree. the .tv extension is moving like a late freight and ain't nothing stopping it now.

It will only get better as we usher it into the 21st century with all the fanfare we care to muster. The thinking that once sufficed in the previous century is now becoming at long last inadequate as more and more people are seeing the potential that now exists with the .tv extension.

Not only that, but the .tv extension is being viewed as a cost-effective alternative to the artificially high priced .com fare being offered at the parking lots. People want value and they see the immediate benefits that the extension can provide them.

It's all good for .tv and I am happy to be on board for this renaissance!

Enjoy the ride, Dotster! It's gonna be a lot of fun for all the enthusiasts and investors now!

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as an aside but relevant to the forum...only 31 more posts to go for Jeff! what a magnificent milestone...30,000 posts W-O-W!

 

[antonis12]

^ I agree (and also, obviously, with the job being "half-done") ... removing the hefty annual renewal fees for those Premium auctioned items had a predictable correlation with both increased discussion chatter & bidding by like-minded domainers; but how is it any (substantially) better for the vast majority of ".TV" owners (including those trying to sell their inflated (ie, expectations as a result of the hyped auctions) .TV domain names in the various forums) or an developed, stand-alone "ecosystem"? :blink:
IYHO.

Kind regards,
Jeff

It helps for the exact opposite reasons that premium renewals hurt the TLD and ecosystem.

Remember, the theory was: Premium renewals price the TLD out of reach, *confuse* users, hinder development, suck out money that could go into TLD to VSGN, keep domains from moving through the chain of registry->registrar->brokers/auctionhouses->end-users, limit the number of registrars that can sell the best .tv domains, etc.

This is what everyone said was the main problem with .tv relative to other second tier TLDs. Given that this is now partially gone, you should see the positive effects over time. It will be better if/when it is fully gone, but I already made that caveat.

 

[Jeff]

This is what everyone said was the main problem with .tv relative to other second tier TLDs. Given that this is now partially gone, you should see the positive effects over time. It will be better if/when it is fully gone, but I already made that caveat.

I think what we're seeing is that ^ domainers didn't like paying HEFTY annual renewal fees ... but that they'd pay standard renewal fees (and we agree that there's much still to be resolved here) - the question remains;
HOW are these Premium .TV domain names going to get developed and promoted (ie., "ecosystem") if they are not being purchased / acquired by End users / developers?
IYHO.

Regards,
Jeff

 

[antonis12]

I think what we're seeing is that ^ domainers didn't like paying HEFTY annual renewal fees ... but that they'd pay standard renewal fees (and we agree that there's much still to be resolved here) - the question remains;
HOW are these Premium .TV domain names going to get developed and promoted (ie., "ecosystem") if they are not being purchased / acquired by End users / developers?
IYHO.

Regards,
Jeff

1/ Premium renewals are a deterrent in general from the TLD, for both domaineers and end-users. Try explaining to an end-user why whatever.tv should be paid for at $10K/year when a .com costs $8. It is hard enough to get end-users to accept that good domain names have value in the first place when they have to pay an upfront fee for a good domain (say a .com from buydomains). When you add to that an ongoing annual fee, it makes a .tv even less appealing.

2/ The non-standard nature of premium renewals vs. other TLDs makes all the channels that usually get domains into end-users hands more difficult

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1/ Premium renewals are a deterrent in general from the TLD, for both domaineers and end-users. Try explaining to an end-user why whatever.tv should be paid for at $10K/year when a .com costs $8. It is hard enough to get end-users to accept that good domain names have value in the first place when they have to pay an upfront fee for a good domain (say a .com from buydomains). When you add to that an ongoing annual fee, it makes a .tv even less appealing.

2/ The non-standard nature of premium renewals vs. other TLDs makes all the channels that usually get domains into end-users hands more difficult

EDIT:

One more point. It is a misconception to think that any decent .COM domains are being purchased or registered directly by end-users at this stage.

Between drop-catchers, existing large portfolios (deep blue sea, buydomains, etc), godaddy auctions, etc, most decent .COMs are being intermediated on the way to ultimate end-users.

That is what I mean by ecosystem. And since that ecosystem has been built for .com (and is still fairly immature there), .tv should aim to piggyback on it.

Where the world should ultimately end up is that end-user searches for a name on GoDaddy (or their registrar for choice) and the complete inventory of available primary inventory (hand-regs) and secondary market opportunities (purchases) across all TLDs comes available at rational prices with the domain instantly appearing in their account with credit card purchase.

We are a long way from there but progress is being made toward that type of more 'liquid' market and ecosystem for domains. The premium renewals in any capacity make .tv an odd duck at that party and will hinder its integration. So that is why the elimination is a positive but only partial step in the right direction.

 

[Jeff]

1/ Premium renewals are a deterrent in general from the TLD, for both domaineers and end-users. Try explaining to an end-user why whatever.tv should be paid for at $10K/year when a .com costs $8. It is hard enough to get end-users to accept that good domain names have value in the first place when they have to pay an upfront fee for a good domain (say a .com from buydomains). When you add to that an ongoing annual fee, it makes a .tv even less appealing.

Agree ... how many End users actively bid and acquired (for development purposes) these "standard Reg. fee" Premium .TV domains in the recent auction? :gl:

2/ The non-standard nature of premium renewals vs. other TLDs makes all the channels that usually get domains into end-users hands more difficult

Agree ... how many End users have acquired / registered less expensive, standard Reg. fee .TV domains since the hyped announcement? :blink:

The point may be ... perhaps it's too early (if at all!) to be calling for any type of "resurgence" with any credibility at all, IMHO.

Best,
Jeff

 

[antonis12]

Agree ... how many End users actively bid and acquired (for development purposes) these "standard Reg. fee" Premium .TV domains in the recent auction? :gl:



Agree ... how many End users have acquired / registered less expensive, standard Reg. fee .TV domains since the hyped announcement? :blink:

Best,
Jeff

We have had this discussion before. You know that I have no idea and you have no idea. But it would not matter if it was 1 or 114. I suspect there are dozens if not hundreds of .tvs being registered daily around the world by end-users, so who cares about these names specifically. No TLD is going to be made or not made by 1,000 premium domains. It is going to need xxx,xxx to x,xxx,xxx of sites to be developed which it is why it is more important for VSGN to get the overall picture right for the TLD as opposed to trying every variant to squeeze the last dollar out of domain X.

I also don't expect that the time frame for improvement of the TLD is going to be measured in weeks. Unlike you/me/others, END-USERS have better things to do with their lives than obsess over TLD changes.

The correct question is not: 'what has happened in the last 2-3 weeks' but, if .tv can get its act together, 'what will happen in the next 2-3 years'

 

[Vito]

Those "sales" aside for a moment; again, HOW is it any (substantially) better for the vast majority of ".TV" owners (including those trying to sell their inflated (ie., heightened expectations as a result of the hyped auctions) .TV domain names in the various forums) ... or for an fully developed, stand-alone "ecosystem"? :gl:
IYHO.

Best regards,
Jeff

Jeff,

Take any extension at all. Look up the domains that are regged as opposed to the domains are developed. (I am unsure of how to get these exact statistics) but I'd be willing to bet 50%, give or take 10% of all domains from any extension are purely non-developed domains, and most of those are speculative investments, or put away for a projet another day in the future.

$10 reg fees, or $20. reg fees, are basically the same thing. Take away those 5K, 10K inflated renewal fees, and the playing field has equaled out acoss the board...NO, I take that back. The playing field is now at an advantage for .TV because of the vast majority of strong 1 word keywords that have just hit the Registrars.

I want to build a site all about concrete. I have created some pretty awesome cool patios/sidewalks/driveways, etc. with concrete. Concrete can be stamped now. Concrete can be dyed now. Concrete can be painted now. Concrete can enhouse lighting within it. Concrete can have heating coils placed underneath itself to melt the snow...etc.

I could go pay 10-20K....maybe more,for the domain stampedconcrete.com and then my site only about stamped concrete, thats it. Well, I just yesterday picked up the Category Killer....Concrete(dot)tv for a one time Premium fee! and forever only a $20. reg fee, and theres a bonus. It is a TV so the universally known tv creates a channel, moving video, thought in peoples minds to say...Hey I want to go to THAT site rather than .US/.info, etc. Actually wiyth this keyword, I believe it is better than owning concrete in the .org, maybe even the .net.

So, there is still lots of opportunities and money to be made in this extension as it has a new revived youth. THAT is substantially better for .TV owners, investors, and of course developers. IMHO.

 

[Jeff]

The correct question is not: 'what has happened in the last 2-3 weeks' but, if .tv can get its act together, 'what will happen in the next 2-3 years'

I think we can agree to agree, as above "the point may be ... perhaps it's too early (if at all!) to be calling for any type of (.TV) "resurgence" with any credibility at all, IMHO." :gl:

Time will tell, but until then ... remember the last 10+/+ checkered years in the ccTLD .TV! :imho:
See you soon,
Jeff

 

[freedom30]

"...perhaps it's too early[/B] (if at all!) to be calling for any type of (.TV) "resurgence" with any credibility at all, IMHO."

au contraire...I call it a resurgence, I call it a renaissance...I call it a well planned and well placed occurence of events to revitalize the extension and bring with it a fresh new concept for the 21st century that fits the YOUNGER GENERATION like the proverbial glove.

ease of use, cost-effectiveness, conveniently attached by name to the television itself...all the parts and pieces are finally fitting into place as will be evident. As the mechanisms of 20th century thought drift farther and farther from the shores of this century, a newer and fresher approach takes hold. Good times ahead for the .tv extension...