services BrandBucket's Michael Krell Resigns

[DaveX]

BrandBucket sent out their January newsletter and it seems that Michael Krell will be leaving the company. Michael who is one of if not the most prolific seller in the history of the site will be leaving effective January 31.

http://tldinvestors.com/2018/01/michael-krell-is-leaving-his-position-at-brandbucket.html

And @Grilled got a mention!

 

[BrandMart]

It's time to move on to Brandpa now

 

[Omar.]

Come on Omar .. lol .. I think you've got a fantastic dictionary .. made out of strong weed .. and then smoked it .. lol

FYI I Don't smoke week or any other drugs. I DONT DO DRUGS. Those are my dictionary words 100% clean of any illegal substance.

Iam just Brutally Honest! LOL my personality may dislike to certain people...

 

[Ategy]

LOL my personality may dislike to certain people...

Yeah .. that was something that I actually COULD read between the lines! lol

 

[Rajnish Prasad]

All those Brand prefix marketplaces are worst to nothing...

Just wastage of Time & Money..

All those Pa, da, Ma, Na and so on....

Riduculously Pricing the Domains which makes no sense...

Crappy Domains you will see priced at xxxx.75, xxxx.25.

I still wonder their 2 Digit Decimal pricing..where did the hell they make such appraisals.. .75, .25

 

[DaveX]

All those Pa, da, Ma, Na and so on...

LOL

 

[Optimal Names]

I have a bad habit to check what others are buying, mostly guys who I think are doing good in certain niches, so I have checked in the last year what MK was buying as well. At 1st september he stopped buying to much and stopped listing anything at BB. So, he's not buying to much, a small procent from what he was buying before. Also, his portofolio at BB gets smaller with a few domains day by day, probably just what he sells or doesn't want to renew. The idea is that he's not buying as much as before, so probably he will change the niche or maybe he will do it as a hobby. It will be interesting to see what he choosed instead of brandables and how profitable was to invest in 8k names. He was one of the big sellers, but he was investing much more than the average domainer in his brandable domains, so I would like to know how profitable it was for him.

Beware of how you're checking though...

Maybe you already are aware of this, and if so then I apologize in advance, but if not - GoDaddy (where he registers much of his names) is phasing out rich WHOIS data. If you look at my portfolio, on Whoisology.com for example. I have a fraction of the domains that I used to have registered to my standard email address. But that isnt true at all. Apparently Whoisology isnt getting the full WHOIS information from GoDaddy on a large chunk of my portfolio. So it looks like I dropped 2/3 of my names. I havent.

Likewise, if we look at Michael's portfolio on Whoisology for the September 2017 archive, it shows 4,287 domains. If we look at the previous archive (June 2017) then it shows 8,039 domains. Why? My guess is that Whoisology can no longer associate in September 2017 his email address with nearly 50% of the domains that were listed in June 2017.

There are threads on here about GoDaddy restricting WHOIS data.

I wonder if that is what you're noticing when you say he stopped buying too much?

Of course, it could be that he's thinned out his portfolio however the GoDaddy WHOIS thing definitely needs to be considered.

 

[boker]

Beware of how you're checking though...

Maybe you already are aware of this, and if so then I apologize in advance, but if not - GoDaddy (where he registers much of his names) is phasing out rich WHOIS data. If you look at my portfolio, on Whoisology.com for example. I have a fraction of the domains that I used to have registered to my standard email address. But that isnt true at all. Apparently Whoisology isnt getting the full WHOIS information from GoDaddy on a large chunk of my portfolio. So it looks like I dropped 2/3 of my names. I havent.

Likewise, if we look at Michael's portfolio on Whoisology for the September 2017 archive, it shows 4,287 domains. If we look at the previous archive (June 2017) then it shows 8,039 domains. Why? My guess is that Whoisology can no longer associate in September 2017 his email address with nearly 50% of the domains that were listed in June 2017.

There are threads on here about GoDaddy restricting WHOIS data.

I wonder if that is what you're noticing when you say he stopped buying too much?

Of course, it could be that he's thinned out his portfolio however the GoDaddy WHOIS thing definitely needs to be considered.

I didn't checked any whois service because I know you can't trust them, it's much more accurate to check everywhere where he is listing his portofolio, his own marketplace, BB marketplace and other places. Also, there are domainers who own up to 20k domains, but they don't have a namepros account and not to many of us know them, for example, one guy own's around 19k domains, mostly org acronyms, without any presence here but there are ways to check what he buys daily, so you can have more info about what's selling. The idea is that after a domainer will buy something he will list it somehwere for sale...if you find out ways to check where he will list them, than you can have some extra info and in our business any extra advantage counts.

 

[Optimal Names]

... after a domainer will buy something he will list it somehwere for sale...if you find out ways to check where he will list them, than you can have some extra info and in our business any extra advantage counts.

very true!

 

[1Darko]

All those Brand prefix marketplaces are worst to nothing...

Just wastage of Time & Money..

All those Pa, da, Ma, Na and so on....

Riduculously Pricing the Domains which makes no sense...

Crappy Domains you will see priced at xxxx.75, xxxx.25.

I still wonder their 2 Digit Decimal pricing..where did the hell they make such appraisals.. .75, .25

Sounds like Panama

 

[Rajnish Prasad]

Sounds like Panama

 

[DKN]

Thank you Michael (@michaeljkrell) for your help and awesome support.

Wishing you a great success in your future endeavors.

 

[Omar.]

Finally the DRAMA between @Grilled and Michael krell is OVER! lol
No more Snake Oil for brand bucket! hehehe!!

 

[imadoer]

Even with krell gone I still think there's too much competition and unfairness at bb...

 

[gina ferrano]

Lol I outbid him on a domain at NameJet
last week, so maybe he is finding it expensive to replace inventory, as the marketplace is more crowded, and huge names, and taryn have really upped their buying budgets. You could be right about dropping some of those brandables that were on fire 2 years ago. Good analysis. BB did allow him to spend more, as he was selling thru more, but carrying 8K names is like $70k a year, $1.5k a week, not fun by any means.

I've been out of the loop the past 2 years and curious if I may ask, what kind of brandables were on fire 2 years past that are no longer 'on fire' as they say. Thanks!

 

[gina ferrano]

I guess it's back to clipping $1 godaddy coupons, Why is it that so many domainers have a detest for him?

Personally, I think many are envious or jealous though won't admit it so they hurl insults. I guess it's human nature. Amassing 7k-9k names is no small feat, and yes one might say a conflict of interest no more than many brandable marketplaces (brandpa, namerific, brandroot for starters) He was able to turn a 1k investment into quite the windfall. If we should all be so lucky.

 

[creataweb]

Gina are you his girlfriend? lol... pretty easy to sell when the results are skewed in your favor don'tcha think?

 

[imadoer]

Personally, I think many are envious or jealous though won't admit it so they hurl insults. I guess it's human nature. Amassing 7k-9k names is no small feat, and yes one might say a conflict of interest no more than many brandable marketplaces (brandpa, namerific, brandroot for starters) He was able to turn a 1k investment into quite the windfall. If we should all be so lucky.

I dont think anyone is jealous. He grew to a point where he was hoarding the whole website. His names got pushed first and the little guys who funded bb's advertisements with listing fees got pushed to back side and got fed scraps. So there maybe a lot of hard feelings from domainers. I dont think its jealousy.

 

[offthehandle]

Personally, I think many are envious or jealous though won't admit it so they hurl insults. I guess it's human nature. Amassing 7k-9k names is no small feat, and yes one might say a conflict of interest no more than many brandable marketplaces (brandpa, namerific, brandroot for starters) He was able to turn a 1k investment into quite the windfall. If we should all be so lucky.

I have never posted anything but what I see is factual. Prove me wrong with screen shots and whois data, and I will eat my words and apologize!

The BB thread had some posts awhile that search was improved, and above I demonstrated in 5 minutes it remains skewed with one example. If you were to invest your time to examine whois on a bunch of keywords and post that data here proving otherwise, I am all ears. That would be more productive than accusing people of being jealous. Research who owns the top names in search, its almost like Adwords, paid advertising above organic results. In fact, its like SEO gaming. The skewed and favored management of a company to a small close knit group of people there and here on NP that own a bunch of names will defend this to no end. I think those people should all be members of the BB club, which would actually be better for them : less inventory and sellers = less competitors. Then the remaining sellers defect to other markets.

I come from an industry of professionals, not a company run by some school teacher or language major. Sales organizations if done correctly are designed to work to eliminate conflicts of interest. Inside sales support outside sales. Inside sales dont take sales away from their resellers, or they lose their resellers and get a black eye from all peer resellers who talk among themselves as on this forum, and boycott the principal. Clearly that sort of education in business management was lacking at this marketplace. I have seen lines always drawn clearly with business owners or corporations choosing between inside sales or outside sales forces. You can’t have it both ways, or what has happened here and exposed occurs to tarnish resellers / outside sellers confidence with insiders. There are sellers with a few names with “Tech” in them that deserve 1st page position. Why are they on page 8? Maybe I should post all the pages of screen shots here, I still have them. Meanwhile that name Xefeo or whatever was glaringly at me- front row center. The best seat in the house. Prime real estate.

I have no horse in this race, I removed my names from BB and in fact they keep getting purchased by others. I don’t really care, I hope they sell to an end user someday, and hope that the reseller makes ton’s of money.

But the fact remains that a worldwide independent marketplace is needed. No godaddy, no afternic, no sedo, no namejet, no commissions - a craigslists sort of free and open market place with no leaders, no sponsors, no bloggers, no kickbacks - a domainer marketplace to sell to end users. Cut out the middlemen. Cut out the brokers. Direct sales domainer to end user. A co-op even. The market is all fragmented with separate landing pages in parking services instead of one central marketplace for end users, they go to Godaddy because they are the most well known.

 

[gina ferrano]

Gina are you his girlfriend? lol... pretty easy to sell when the results are skewed in your favor don'tcha think?

Really?, because I happen to have a woman's name you jump to that conclusion? Silly boy. No. I've never even met Michael. And of course, if you have 1/5 of the names on BB you'll sell more, that goes w/o saying.

 

[gina ferrano]

I have never posted anything but what I see is factual. Prove me wrong with screen shots and whois data, and I will eat my words and apologize!

The BB thread had some posts awhile that search was improved, and above I demonstrated in 5 minutes it remains skewed with one example. If you were to invest your time to examine whois on a bunch of keywords and post that data here proving otherwise, I am all ears. That would be more productive than accusing people of being jealous. Research who owns the top names in search, its almost like Adwords, paid advertising above organic results. In fact, its like SEO gaming. The skewed and favored management of a company to a small close knit group of people there and here on NP that own a bunch of names will defend this to no end. I think those people should all be members of the BB club, which would actually be better for them : less inventory and sellers = less competitors. Then the remaining sellers defect to other markets.

I come from an industry of professionals, not a company run by some school teacher or language major. Sales organizations if done correctly are designed to work to eliminate conflicts of interest. Inside sales support outside sales. Inside sales dont take sales away from their resellers, or they lose their resellers and get a black eye from all peer resellers who talk among themselves as on this forum, and boycott the principal. Clearly that sort of education in business management was lacking at this marketplace. I have seen lines always drawn clearly with business owners or corporations choosing between inside sales or outside sales forces. You can’t have it both ways, or what has happened here and exposed occurs to tarnish resellers / outside sellers confidence with insiders. There are sellers with a few names with “Tech” in them that deserve 1st page position. Why are they on page 8? Maybe I should post all the pages of screen shots here, I still have them. Meanwhile that name Xefeo or whatever was glaringly at me- front row center. The best seat in the house. Prime real estate.

I have no horse in this race, I removed my names from BB and in fact they keep getting purchased by others. I don’t really care, I hope they sell to an end user someday, and hope that the reseller makes ton’s of money.

But the fact remains that a worldwide independent marketplace is needed. No godaddy, no afternic, no sedo, no namejet, no commissions - a craigslists sort of free and open market place with no leaders, no sponsors, no bloggers, no kickbacks - a domainer marketplace to sell to end users. Cut out the middlemen. Cut out the brokers. Direct sales domainer to end user. A co-op even. The market is all fragmented with separate landing pages in parking services instead of one central marketplace for end users, they go to Godaddy because they are the most well known.

I don't need to prove anything. I wasn't responding to you in particular but to a few others. Speaking of insider and close-knit, one of the reasons why I've stayed away from NF in its current incarnation is that it very much feels like a boys club and I wanted to offer up another perspective. I happen to be a bb seller, and they are quite welcoming to me there. Is it perfect, no. I agree with you, there's much to be critical of the system, as well as how MK had/has the lions share, but there are options thankfully and we all have a choice, to buy/sell in whatever way we choose.