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[xtremex]

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[wwwulff]

BrandPa has just made it possible to buy names through a paymentplan - I hope BB will follow sun

 

[equity78]

BrandBucket March sales data, average sale price up vs February

BrandBucket sent out their April newsletter today and it looks like the average sale was $2,793. (Sales over $10,000 are excluded). This was an uptick from March which showed $2,521 as the average sales price. November $3,044, December was $2,938 and January was $2,885. There were 54 different sellers with 15 of those making multiple […]

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[Dimitris]

1 more sale pending completion for $3.9K gross

 

[equity78]

BrandBucket April sales data

BrandBucket sent out their May newsletter and released sales data for April. Removing sales over $10k, the average sale amount was $2,881. A total of 59 different sellers sold a name this month, an increase of 5 over March A new feature this month “Average Listing Time” The average listing time was 28.6 months (two […]

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[karmaco]

I noticed recently that if you type a brand bucket listed name into a registrar, say for example NameSilo,a buy it now price appears. So a sale could literally come from a registrar type in and take place off of Brandbucket or Sedo.

 

[Grilled]

BrandBucket April sales data

BrandBucket sent out their May newsletter and released sales data for April. Removing sales over $10k, the average sale amount was $2,881. A total of 59 different sellers sold a name this month, an increase of 5 over March A new feature this month “Average Listing Time” The average listing time was 28.6 months (two […]

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I needed to take my mind off some things, so this seemed like a worthy task.

Disclaimer: I am not a mathematician. This post was written via mobile phone. There may be errors.

Invented Names:

(a)

4L -- 17% -- 3/17 = 17.6%
5L -- 24% -- 4/17 = 23.5%
6L -- 24% -- 4/17 = 23.5%
7L -- 24% -- 4/17 = 23.5%
8L -- 10% -- 2/17 = 11.7%

(b)

4L -- 17% -- 3/20 = 15%
5L -- 24% -- 5/20 = 25%
6L -- 24% -- 5/20 = 25%
7L -- 24% -- 5/20 = 25%
8L -- 10% -- 2/20 = 10%

(c)

4L -- 17% -- 5/29 = 17.2%
5L -- 24% -- 7/29 = 24.1%
6L -- 24% -- 7/29 = 24.1%
7L -- 24% -- 7/29 = 24.1%
8L -- 10% -- 3/29 = 10.3%

If (c) is correct, then 29 domains sold = 27% of total domains sold for this period.

Which could mean, 104 (27.8%) to 109 (26.6%) total domains sold during this period.

Invented Inventory Breakdown:

3L: 19
4L: 1,179
5L: 6,224
6L: 8,664
7L: 4,777
8L: 2,441

= 23,304 currently publishes invented 8L or less. // 24,886 total invented domains published.

Opposed to 30,759 total keyword domains published.

Further broken down based on (c) sales:

4L: 5 / 1,179 = 0.424%
5 x 12 = 60, 60/1,179 = 5.089% annual STR equivalent?

5L: 7 / 6,224 = 0.112%
7 x 12 = 84, 84/6,224 = 1.349% annual STR equivalent?

6L: 7 / 8,664 = 0.0807%
7 x 12 = 84, 84/8,664 = 0.969% annual STR equivalent?

7L: 7 / 4,777 = 0.1465%
7 x 12 = 84, 84/4777 = 1.758% annual STR equivalent?

8L: 3 / 2,441 = 0.1229%
3 x 12 = 36, 36/2441 = 1.474% annual STR equivalent?

Thus, while it looked like 4L's were lagging, they were actually, by far, the best selling (for this period) in the invented category, when factoring inventory size.

If anybody wants to check the work, or expand upon it, please feel free.

 

[namemarket]

How many domains are listed for sale on Brandbucket? What do their nameservers reveal?

 

[wwwulff]

How many domains are listed for sale on Brandbucket?

I checked today 55,667

 

[Recons.Com]

I needed to take my mind off some things, so this seemed like a worthy task.

Disclaimer: I am not a mathematician. This post was written via mobile phone. There may be errors.
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Invented Names:

(a)

4L -- 17% -- 3/17 = 17.6%
5L -- 24% -- 4/17 = 23.5%
6L -- 24% -- 4/17 = 23.5%
7L -- 24% -- 4/17 = 23.5%
8L -- 10% -- 2/17 = 11.7%

(b)

4L -- 17% -- 3/20 = 15%
5L -- 24% -- 5/20 = 25%
6L -- 24% -- 5/20 = 25%
7L -- 24% -- 5/20 = 25%
8L -- 10% -- 2/20 = 10%

(c)

4L -- 17% -- 5/29 = 17.2%
5L -- 24% -- 7/29 = 24.1%
6L -- 24% -- 7/29 = 24.1%
7L -- 24% -- 7/29 = 24.1%
8L -- 10% -- 3/29 = 10.3%

If (c) is correct, then 29 domains sold = 27% of total domains sold for this period.

Which could mean, 104 (27.8%) to 109 (26.6%) total domains sold during this period.

Invented Inventory Breakdown:

3L: 19
4L: 1,179
5L: 6,224
6L: 8,664
7L: 4,777
8L: 2,441

= 23,304 currently publishes invented 8L or less. // 24,886 total invented domains published.

Opposed to 30,759 total keyword domains published.

Further broken down based on (c) sales:

4L: 5 / 1,179 = 0.424%
5 x 12 = 60, 60/1,179 = 5.089% annual STR equivalent?

5L: 7 / 6,224 = 0.112%
7 x 12 = 84, 84/6,224 = 1.349% annual STR equivalent?

6L: 7 / 8,664 = 0.0807%
7 x 12 = 84, 84/8,664 = 0.969% annual STR equivalent?

7L: 7 / 4,777 = 0.1465%
7 x 12 = 84, 84/4777 = 1.758% annual STR equivalent?

8L: 3 / 2,441 = 0.1229%
3 x 12 = 36, 36/2441 = 1.474% annual STR equivalent?

Thus, while it looked like 4L's were lagging, they were actually, by far, the best selling (for this period) in the invented category, when factoring inventory size.

If anybody wants to check the work, or expand upon it, please feel free.

Interesting approach!

Your 104 to 109 would be within the range I got of 95 to 113 based on the assumption for average names sold per multiple name seller.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/method-for-calculating-brandbucket-sell-through-rate.1139620/

 

[namemarket]

I checked today 55,667

It's possible my math is wrong and I admit to not being good in math. However, If 59 sold in April and we multiple that by 12 mos it results in 708 sales a year. If we extrapolate the number based on approx' 55,000 names said to be for sale (assuming it's valid) which I have not checked, it looks like chance of selling just one domain on BrandBucket is between 1% to 2%

Some stats show chance of a name selling anywhere overall is roughly 1% to 2% range a year or so. Again, if my math is correct it means the possibility of selling on BB is also far from good and there are costs and other negativities vs other venues which are free.

I was always suspect BB does not 'work' as well as many assume it does and brandable domains are of dubious value, which is why I never opened a BB account and own so few brandables myself. If accurate data I am very fortunate to not be paying for BB listings and logos etc since based on the depressing stats it can take as long as 100 years for a sale which stats I am finding amazing so please check the data and numbers.

P.S. Maybe I am missing something?

 

[Grilled]

If 59 sold in April

Where'd you get the 59 figure from?

I admit to not being good in math

I don't think it has anything to do with your math mathematical ability.

More likely

I am missing something?

Such as

Your 104 to 109 would be within the range I got of 95 to 113

Referring to April sales estimates.

 

[Recons.Com]

@Grilled April numbers are not way off from May's.

Also, the only shortcoming of calculating via percentages is that it could be double of the numbers you get, meaning, 208 to 218 should provide similar results.

But combining with the seller stat analysis, it limits it to the lower range, as otherwise, the few multiple sellers (2 and more sold) should be averaging around 9-10 names sold each and 18 or so guys averaging that many is pretty much impossible.

Anyway, your calculation method, plus mine, plus seller experience show that unrelated party sell through is nearing 1% at BB.

 

[karmaco]

Another dramatic thing these newsletters points out is that invented names just don’t sell like keyword domains do over there. I rarely invest in invented names.

 

[namemarket]

Where'd you get the 59 figure from?

BrandBucket April sales data

BrandBucket sent out their May newsletter and released sales data for April. Removing sales over $10k, the average sale amount was $2,881. A total of 59 different sellers sold a name this month, an increase of 5 over March.....{/QUOTE]

 

[Grilled]

@Grilled April numbers are not way off from May's

The last report issued at the end of May, was for April sales data, no?

So when you say May's, do you mean the May newsletter?

Just to clarify: as others not following as closely may misunderstand.

the only shortcoming of calculating via percentages is that it could be double of the numbers you get, meaning, 208 to 218 should provide similar results.

True. But if they had numbers such as 208 to 218, wouldn't that be some sort of a record sales month? And wouldn't that have been mentioned?

Also, that would skew the amount of sellers who sold one domains VS sellers who sold 2+. Not saying this isn't possible as I haven't fully dove into the charts yet. Though your numbers based off seller data falling in range with my data, seems to point the 1XX range being the likely assumption opposed to 2XX.

But combining with the seller stat analysis, it limits it to the lower range, as otherwise, the few multiple sellers (2 and more sold) should be averaging around 9-10 names sold each and 18 or so guys averaging that many is pretty much impossible.

Exactly.

Anyway, your calculation method, plus mine, plus seller experience show that unrelated party sell through is nearing 1% at BB.

I haven't analyzed it enough to come to that conclusion.

Further, I'm not so sure a search result audit would validate anything concrete about the sales.

I do appreciate your approach of analyzing the seller data. Though I'm not entirely sure I understand it.

And/or

I'm not sure how you would differentiate that as insider selling advantage vs sales of others.

As you speculate on the unrelated party sell through rate nearing 1%, what does that give an insider?

Respectfully, that's almost a loaded question in my mind given the unknowns, and the varying definition of an assumed insider, and the perks they may or may not receive.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about being a skeptic. I just want to confirm or deny as much as I can before making a position. It could be much worse, or much better than we assume. The question is developing a measurable test.

I plan to comment more in the new thread, just wanted to respond to your tag here first.

 

[Grilled]

59 sold in April and we multiple that by 12 mos it results in 708 sales a year.

A total of 59 different sellers sold a name this month, an increase of 5 over March

Different sellers doesn't mean total domains sold. Some sellers sold more than one.

 

[Recons.Com]

@Grilled did you check out the link? It has the breakdown on conclusions, assumptions etc.

And yes, by May I mean disclosed in May, but probably April results. And the previous months were quite similar.

 

[equity78]

Here are previous months if you need for info

https://tldinvestors.com/2019/04/brandbucket-march-sales-data-average-sale-price-up-vs-february.html

https://tldinvestors.com/2019/03/brandbucket-february-sales-data.html

https://tldinvestors.com/2019/02/brandbucket-january-sales-data.html

 

[equity78]

Different sellers doesn't mean total domains sold. Some sellers sold more than one.

Right BB was just reporting how many sellers not how many domains sold.

 

[Argentum]

Any thoughts about Squadhelp? Stay with BB or switch to SH?