BODIS

[matt_bodis]

Bodis.com

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• The New REVOLUTION in Domain Parking is HERE! - Bodis.com

 

[matt_bodis]

What changes have you made at Above?

 

[ngenme]

Matt, it works :D. It's so easy. I'll update my program and start updating.

There are 30&24 hours in a month. That's 7200 hours in a freakin month a lone. Your domain renewal fee is yearly. There are $365*24 hours. How much that 2 hours cost your ROI?

Wolfis, 2 hours worth of revenue gone. So WHAT? If you want to be a millionaire, you can't get mad for every little thing.

With adsense I face banning and have to keep changing accounts I gave up. With Second life I send legitimate sign up. Yes sign ups, no clicks, sign ups. Real sign ups. Not hired, not incentified, not robot, real people interested on products. Real juicy red blooded young male sign ups wanting to see hot 3D girls. If that's not natural traffic, nothing is

After 3 months, poof accounts gone. No explanation why. Recently I figured out what may be wrong and get paid again and again. But who knows. No AM. No one to talk too. My friends are making $50k on CPA. I should be more risk taking.

With bodis, and other parking companies, if things go wrong, I can talk first, I can track down what went wrong (sometimes it does). They know I am being careful. Often Matt don't even bother deducting the money lost (though I don't mind). That's what I call relationship.

You complain about 2 hours lost of revenue? Spend your time to buy more domains and make more money. Shit happens. Matt has done his best. He paid well. Why complain over 2 hours of revenue?

Relationship with guys like Donny and Matt worths far more than 2 hours of revenue.

 

[wolfis.com]

i did NOT MAKE ANY CHANEGES UNTIL TODAY !!

and to this math genius - from 1pm to 11 pm how many hours on your clock ?

 

[ngenme]

I guess it takes a while for above.com to catch up. Still not worth complaining.

 

[wolfis.com]

i just hate nothing more when someone trying to tell me that everything is fine when it is not - and fact is that revenue is missing and constantly everyone tells me it is not their fault - a few weeks it was voodoo - they said it aboves fault this time bodis and he is trying to tell me it is my fault - i was not even online during that time and it can be proofen with the login log at bodis - everyone just always passes the bug and i am sick and tired of it !

 

[Eric Lyon]

@ wolfis.com - I can understand your frustration and how you feel as if multiple parking companies (since you mentioned others) are all trying to pass the blame off to someone else. However, Please try and understand that technical difficulties do happen and that 99.9% of the time through no fault of your account reps. On another note, while it may be trivial and hold no merit, if more than one parking company are identifying above.com as possibly contributing to some form of error, wouldn't that constitute a bit more probability that it may be a source?

I am confident that Bodis.com & it's staff are working diligently to resolve this problem. Please give them some time to asses the situation more. Now that they know you didn't make any changes at Above.com it should help them trouble shoot further to find a resolution for you. Troubleshooting can sometimes take a bit, so try and be patient as they work through this with you on their end.

I'm sure things will work out. Thanks for understanding.

Eric Lyon

 

[matt_bodis]

Hi Wolfgang,

I am sorry but I did not mean to make it sound like you were wrong. What I wanted to know is what the settings were so that I know how your names are setup on Above. I know one way is for Above to automatically rotate, while there are also custom settings. So wanted to know more details before giving you a definite answer.

Above didn't update the changes until yesterday so there was a small outage indeed.

Do not worry however, you will be credited for those hours by the time the week is over. As well as anyone else affected by this issue.

Thanks for your patience and once again I am sorry for the inconvenience caused.

 

[ibidu]

As a matter of fact it's the tone that Woflis talk which would offend me if he was talking to me - Matt is and has been doing his utmost best - unexpected problems like this happens in IT all the time, and if you have no experience in this field then you would talk like Wofis does!! As Teguh says; to have a good mutual understanding with guys who run our business is more important than getting angry over earning 100 bucks more or less!!

 

[zaki.ahmed]

No Details on referral Traffic Source Information

I see there no information for referral Traffic Source for my account in December.
Is this something related to this DDOS Attacks or only my profile is not able to show the details.


Also i see Jump in alexa Regional Rank for Bodis.com from below two top regions.
Does this give some clues related to this DDOS

Cote d'Ivoire and Poland

 

[matt_bodis]

I see there no information for referral Traffic Source for my account in December.
Is this something related to this DDOS Attacks or only my profile is not able to show the details.


Also i see Jump in alexa Regional Rank for Bodis.com from below two top regions.
Does this give some clues related to this DDOS

Cote d'Ivoire and Poland

Nope those countries unrelated. No DDOS from those countries ever to this date. :P

Good catch on the referral info. That information is delayed and should be up-to-date by end of the upcoming week.

 

[wolfis.com]

to Matt : i use the auto optimizer at above - bodis together with 2 other services - it is not in a seperate folder - it is in the default folder together with all others - i believe this is the fair way to figure out who pays to most .

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of course not right now - i have since yesterday bodis disabled and only 2 domains directly pointed to bodis using bodis nameservers - all others are still going with above nameservers using remaining 2 services until i know for sure the it still works - i know for a fact that it did not work when i checked at noon yesterday and i say only a fraction for thursday and next to nothing yesterday - after i say this and read yuor email you mailed out at night i realized that bodis counter was wrong and the redirect does no longer work - so i disabled the service.

 

[ngenme]

Wolfis, bodis counter always report lower number, but overall, higher ecpm and comparable pay. Higher for chinese visitors. I still don't know why my self. Above.com has this normalized ecpm which you can use instead. I think you already know that.

Now I am using the cname again. Things should partially work

 

[matt_bodis]

There was a time when most companies (Bodis included) were giving extremely high visitor numbers as you probably know. Those were "hits" to the parked domain, such as image requests, video file requests, and other hits that didn't necessarily mean that a user had seen the landing page.

At one point or another we decided to filter that out and only include the numbers where a user definitely has seen the landing page (via a javascript counter).

It's basically how the internet has evolved.

However, we took it once step further, and decided to filter out even some visitors that loaded a javascript counter. The logic was that if a visitor loaded a javascript counter, it didn't quite necessarily mean it was still a visitor that should count towards the statistics.

This included the domain owner visiting his/her own domains, bots that were capable of rendering javascript (such as Googlebot), and so forth. So that's where we are today.

This helps us get a clear look at the statistics and do A/B testing with the most accurate numbers.

This would not affect revenue as every click is still sent to G whether we think visitor is valid or not valid. G actually has the same exact algorithm (except more complicated). And they don't share it with anyone, so I can't tell you the specifics on that.

 

[ngenme]

Ah, I see Matt. Now I see why when I send those traffic to some people, they complain that my traffic is bot (even though I don't send those bots).

 

[wolfis.com]

There was a time when most companies (Bodis included) were giving extremely high visitor numbers as you probably know. Those were "hits" to the parked domain, such as image requests, video file requests, and other hits that didn't necessarily mean that a user had seen the landing page.

At one point or another we decided to filter that out and only include the numbers where a user definitely has seen the landing page (via a javascript counter).

It's basically how the internet has evolved.

However, we took it once step further, and decided to filter out even some visitors that loaded a javascript counter. The logic was that if a visitor loaded a javascript counter, it didn't quite necessarily mean it was still a visitor that should count towards the statistics.

This included the domain owner visiting his/her own domains, bots that were capable of rendering javascript (such as Googlebot), and so forth. So that's where we are today.

This helps us get a clear look at the statistics and do A/B testing with the most accurate numbers.

This would not affect revenue as every click is still sent to G whether we think visitor is valid or not valid. G actually has the same exact algorithm (except more complicated). And they don't share it with anyone, so I can't tell you the specifics on that.

sorry but this has nothing to do with everything showing ZERO from 1 pm in the afternoon to 11 pm inat night at BODIS only - there was something going on since it also SHOWING ZERO REVENUE

i do not care about how ity is counted - i care about missing revenue - i am not sure how much more clear i can make this - everyu one just gives excuses and passes the bug - fact its i did not change anything before during or shortly after this time frame ( i did make changes the NEXT DAY ) - fact number 2 is that NO OTHER SERVICE had similar problems during this time NOR where missing revenue or traffic recorded on the other services - fact 3 ALL 3 services using the EXACT SAME SERVICE AND METHOD at above in the ecxact same folder .

also even IF i would have changed anything it would take days before the traffic count shows completely zero - there is always "afterbleeding" ( it would not show ZERO from one hour to the other - like one hour is normal and the next hour it shows zero - this is not possible with this amount of traffic on 100's of domains )just as it shows for the past 2 days - there is still traffic going to bodis even so i disabled it days ago . ( not much but it is noticible )

these are all facts and still the bug is passed around about how visitors are counted .

this has nothing to do with missing revenue !

sorry to say this like that but at this point i aM OUT OF OPTIONS ON how to make these things clear !

 

[Name Trader]

Couldn't this be related to above.com? After their hiccups at end of last month when they were reporting zero revenues, I removed them from the equation and pointed my domains directly to one parking provider. Basically I'd had enough of above.com. I took my best earning domains at bodis and pointed them directly to bodis. Next month I'll point all my domains to another provider. Because I'm not sure above.com have all their wrinkles ironed out. I'm still using them for reporting my revenue though

 

[ngenme]

Above.com once blocked traffic to one of my friends' account too. No explanation. No notification. I asked them first and they tell. Know it a week latter when we check stats.

Then it redirects chinese visitors to yousee.com without us knowing it to another friend of mine. Again no explanation, and no notification. I simply avoid using them at all for now. Maybe one day I'll do it again. Not anymore. I love their parking to parking comparison but that's pretty much it. Too much risk.

My most likely explanation for your case is that it takes a while for above.com to switch from a address to cname address. That's all. Also even if they did that change, name server takes a while to propagate.

Matt wouldn't do things this suddenly if not because the situation is very urgent. He doesn't have any choice.

 

[sanfran]

Bodis now is comparable with the Low Life ND

Bodis used to cap max cpc at
$1.50
$.90
$.50

and now Bodis goes as low as $0.30.
But of course, most clicks r now at 1 or 2 penny.

Bodis now is comparable with the Low Life ND

:lol:

 

[matt_bodis]

If you have domain names at 1 or 2 cents per click then they are likely banned by G, our primary upstream provider and using second tier providers.

Edit:
I have just looked up your account and found the 1 cent clicks to come from a domain name banned by G, so that explains the reason why you are seeing such low revenue.

I'd like to also state that we do NOT have a cap on CPC. What we get from G is what we pass on to the user.

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PS
You can check if a domain is banned or not by using our API here:

https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=somedomain.com

Simply replace somedomain.com with your actual domain name. "Primary" represents not banned, and "secondary" represents banned.

 

[sanfran]

Matt,
let me disagree with you.
I rotate the same portfolio among diff parking providers. And I see the same domain getting 5c from Bodis and $1 elsewhere.

If you have domain names at 1 or 2 cents per click then they are likely banned by G, our primary upstream provider and using second tier providers.

Edit:
I have just looked up your account and found the 1 cent clicks to come from a domain name banned by G, so that explains the reason why you are seeing such low revenue.

I'd like to also state that we do NOT have a cap on CPC. What we get from G is what we pass on to the user.

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PS
You can check if a domain is banned or not by using our API here:

https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=somedomain.com

Simply replace somedomain.com with your actual domain name. "Primary" represents not banned, and "secondary" represents banned.