thanks for both replies
ok, will try out post nuke, i had read reviews though the PN db gets huge fast and eats up space, do you find this an issue
may I see your site that you use PN with
editing to add, RecipeZaar might be kinda over the top for what I want. we are looking to develop a site that caters to a certain country's cooking. main features that are critical: user profiles, forum, excellent category and sub category organization, user submit articles and a discuss button that automatically links a recipe to the forum