.mobi Are you a new .mobi buyer?

[Traveler]

Here we go:

If you have been a domainer for awhile and you know what you are doing, class is over and you are dismissed.

For those that are new and want to get in on the .mobi "action" I hope this helps.

At this point, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that you will be able to register a name that is worth more than what you paid for it. (better odds on getting eaten by a shark in Kansas)

So that leaves two options if you are looking to "cash in" on .mobi:

A: Buy a name on the aftermarket while the prices are still low because you believe .mobi will be big in the future

B: Hand Reg (register a .mobi that no has yet) and develop it with the hopes that your efforts will increase the value of the name.

If you don't know a lot about creating a website, let alone a MOBILE website, I highly recommend option A.

Having said that.... There is just so much to learn about buying the right domain that it can't be summed up in one post, let alone one thread.

So my advice would be to pick up some LLL.mobi's on the aftermarket. As it stands they have already increased in value by x10 times the initial investment (assuming a person purchased premium letters at 20$)

For someone that is new these are the "safest" bet (imho) and probably stand a much better chance of increasing in value in the next couple of years than any of the names that are left to register.

If you still want to register you rown name, I wish you the best of luck and encourage you to read as much as you can on these forums before spending any money. Type in OVT, Alexa, Google Results, in the search and read as much as you can!!!!

I only post this because day after day I see new people on the forum sharing the names they have just registered and I believe in most cases it was just a waste of money.

Hope this post can be some help to the new guys out there!

and my disclaimer: this is all just my opinion, people with more experience feel free to add to this!

 

[JasMate]

I only post this because day after day I see new people on the forum sharing the names the have just registered and I believe in most cases it was just a waste of money.

Amen to that :td:

 

[frank_view2008]

Yes. I'm making the mistake...

Yesterday I regged 8 names, deleted them today after taking some advice.

At the beginning of this game, I didn't know what were 'nice names',
So regged a lot of names like mbaedu.mobi, xwomen.mobi... I regreted now.

Then I learned to check OVT, comparing with other exts...
I got some nice names.

Recently, I regged a lot of names, (<keyword>+/~web/~site/~line).
I didn't regret though OVT was low. Maybe they could get value someday.
At least, I could build Chinese websites, for example, booksite.mobi means 'tushuwang' in Chinese, but it's better than 'tushuwang.mobi'...

Today I regged some names,
BONDINVESTING.MOBI
BUSINESSETHICS.MOBI
BUSINESSWRITING.MOBI
HOMELOANQUOTES.MOBI
REFINANCINGRATES.MOBI
(How do you think about them? I always ask for advice)

So, I just want to say, be careful to register to guys like me

Frank

 

[allnicksgone]

Today I regged some names,
BONDINVESTING.MOBI
BUSINESSETHICS.MOBI
BUSINESSWRITING.MOBI
HOMELOANQUOTES.MOBI
REFINANCINGRATES.MOBI
(How do you think about them? I always ask for advice)

A great example of what the original poster was referring to. With the $150 you spent on those, you could have bought something nicer on the aftermarket.

 

[JasMate]

A great example of what the original poster was referring to. With the $150 you spent on those, you could have bought something nicer on the aftermarket.

Ouch crushing

Today I regged some names,
BONDINVESTING.MOBI
BUSINESSETHICS.MOBI
BUSINESSWRITING.MOBI
HOMELOANQUOTES.MOBI
REFINANCINGRATES.MOBI
(How do you think about them? I always ask for advice)

So, I just want to say, be careful to register to guys like me

Frank

Hey Frank, to be honest with you I do agree with allnicksgone in regards to buying an LLL.mobi or something similar instead of what you purchased, HOWEVER the names you got are not too bad and may be a good investment? To give you an idea of some nice names check out my sig, I got in early with the .mobi scene and managed to snare some nice names. If you can't get A grade names now which is likely you should look at the aftermarket as it is still fresh and the prices are GOOD.

 

[Traveler]

A great example of what the original poster was referring to. With the $150 you spent on those, you could have bought something nicer on the aftermarket.

Yeas, perfect example of the point I was trying to make oh well. It is the mistake I made with .com portfolio. Oh if I could do that one over again

 

[nombre]

BUSINESSETHICS.MOBI
BUSINESSWRITING.MOBI

what kind of demand do you see for these domains from a mobile phone?, it's hard for me to see why these would be used on a mobile platform, presumably both business writing and business ethics would be the kind of activities you would do at home/office on a standard computer, not on a mobile

that's just me, how would you develop these?

 

[JasMate]

what kind of demand do you see for these domains from a mobile phone?, it's hard for me to see why these would be used on a mobile platform, presumably both business writing and business ethics would be the kind of activities you would do at home/office on a standard computer, not on a mobile

that's just me, how would you develop these?

I do aggree with you not the best names, although BUSINESSETHICS.MOBI could be a nice one to develop if done correctly in my honest opinion. Could make a nice information site for Business practises, with a board for complaints / praises for online & offline business eithics.

Just a thought?

 

[nombre]

I do aggree with you not the best names, although BUSINESSETHICS.MOBI could be a nice one to develop if done correctly in my honest opinion. Could make a nice information site for Business practises, with a board for complaints / praises for online & offline business eithics.

i agree with you, this could make a good site, but are people going to want to access this site for this kind of information on a mobile phone?

i think that most people that want to look at the web for business ethics and practices would do so from a home or office computer on a regular .com, .net etc site, i don't see them doing it from a mobile phone

maybe i am wrong about this

 

[frank_view2008]

Thank you all guys.

These names have acceptable OVT, and max keyword bids are between $2 to $5.
This is the reason why I regged them.

I'm satisfied with PPC.

I think mobi sites fit mobile, as well as computer. Looking at mtld.mobi...

Appreciate your more oppoions.

Thanks,
Frank

 

[randomo]

At this point, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that you will be able to register a name that is worth more than what you paid for it. (better odds on getting eaten by a shark in Kansas)

I humbly beg to differ. There are still good names out there ... I've registered about ten in the last few days, and I am quite confident they will be worth considerably more than reg fee. However, this took a fair amount of research! I agree that it isn't _easy_ to find good unreg'd .mobi names.

So my advice would be to pick up some LLL.mobi's on the aftermarket. As it stands they have already increased in value by x10 times the initial investment (assuming a person purchased premium letters at 20$)

For someone that is new these are the "safest" bet (imho) and probably stand a much better chance of increasing in value in the next couple of years than any of the names that are left to register.

The flip side of this argument is that after so much early appreciation, LLL.mobi's may be overvalued, or at least they may have less room to rise. I think that good letter combinations still have great potential, but the QXZ type of names don't look like a good investment.

YMMV (Your Mobi's May Vary)!

--Dave

 

[ezinaz]

Interesting...we don't really know what users are going to be searching for while using their mobiles...so how can anyone value dot mobi domains yet without any search history to back it up.

One thing that people will be surprised to see is that mobile OVT will not be similar to traditional OVT.

 

[seanboy]

I dunno, I guess BONDINVESTING isn't that bad. Good luck with them

 

[fautebol]

I'm a new .mobi or domain name buyer (did not know anything about it until mid-october).

Randomo, I pretty much agree with what you say. However, I would add that it's not so easy to know what is or would be valuable or not. So, it does take a lot of research, but if you are a newbie (which does not appear to be your case) the difficulty is much greater, because you have to know what is valuable. The risk is that you try to be too creative and make up names just to get your .mobi.

For example let's take 7 of my regs chronologically:

-fute 18 October
-logy 498 OVT 31 October
-adpage 15 November
-maquillaje (makeup in spanish) 24 November .es 76961 OVT
-amatoriale .it OVT 108100 (including also plural) amateur in Italian. 29 november
-accompagnatrice .it (synonym of escort in Italian .it OVT .53871) 30 november
-FCN.mobi 17 December

If we forget about the morale, we can have different view about foreign languages or length, but I believe now that accompagnatrice registered 30 days later than logy is more than 300 times more valuable than logy (idea was bio.logy, sexo.logy, etc...), and this word should have a nice mobile OVT despite the length...Now, I truly believe that the less valuable of the 7 here are the three first ones I registered.

B: Hand Reg (register a .mobi that no has yet) and develop it with the hopes that your efforts will increase the value of the name.

If you don't know a lot about creating a website, let alone a MOBILE website, I highly recommend option A.

I would stongly recommend option B if you see .mobi as a lottery ticket, more than to earn some money. Option A is difficult because you also have to know what is valuable and LLL.mobi are already quite expensive. If you want to have a possibility to earn much if .mobi takes off, you would have to invest quite a bit in option A.

One of my best reg to me is ligne.mobi (in French "en ligne" means online). I'm not sure i would be able to sell it for 30$ in a mid-term range, but it keeps my options very much open for development thanks to subdomains (for example: jeux.en.ligne = online.games or games.online)...18$ for this is damn cheap and wonderful to me....Now I spent something like 60$ dollars for fute and logy. I can give you 100 reasons why I thought these names were great, but I would sell them both for less for less than 60$ right now.

I just wanted to give the perspective of a newbie after three months...

 

[AndyR]

If we equate with .com 9-10 years ago, what should be happening is development to build up the market. If you have several thousand dollars to sit on for a couple of years, by all means buy LLL or NNN and wait. However without developed sites, mobi investment could be very flat and the short term increase of 10x quoted could only be increased by a quarter or less in that time.
My intention is to develop for traffic where possible and put advertising up. I hand regged personalpages.mobi today, not a bad name and with the right development it should show at least the same return over the two years as an undeveloped LLL site.
Hopefully more. Without a marketplace no mobi will thrive. There is at least $10 million invested out there in mobi sites So develop, even if it is a very simple site. With the first site developed it can only get easier.
There are a lot of free PHP scripts which can be suitably modified for mobi with a bit of work, I am looking at several now for some upcoming mobis, will keep you posted.

 

[randomo]

Andy - Nice reg, and what you say makes a lot of sense.

One last impression about .mobi's: it initially seemed annoying to have to reg them for two years, but in hindsight, I don't mind. That means I have no pressure to make a quick flip, because no renewal decisions are looming. A year and a half from now, I'll still have all those domains, and the .mobi universe should be much more developed, leading to a lot more demand for good names!

 

[Traveler]

I humbly beg to differ. There are still good names out there ... I've registered about ten in the last few days, and I am quite confident they will be worth considerably more than reg fee. However, this took a fair amount of research! I agree that it isn't _easy_ to find good unreg'd .mobi names.

I started my thread asking people if they are new. With that in mind, don't you agree it would extremely unlikely for them to find a name that is worth more than reg fee? Wouldn't it be more likely that they waste a lot of money regging names that have little or no value?

I'm really just talking about that person and suggesting that a better option might be to a good name on the aftermarket. Renewal fees get quite expensive when you have a portfolio full of junk names.

I guess it is because I see so many people posting names that just make me cringe. Often the names were registered because the person was new and didn't know better (or the enlish was there second language). I just feel bad seeing people waste their money like that.

 

[randomo]

I started my thread asking people if they are new. With that in mind, don't you agree it would extremely unlikely for them to find a name that is worth more than reg fee? Wouldn't it be more likely that they waste a lot of money regging names that have little or no value?

Well, yes, that's probably true. When I was a newbie, I spent a TON of money registering a HUGE number of domains that had NO value ...

But then, how will they know what is a "good name" on the aftermarket, and how will they know what is a fair price for it?

I guess I'm implying that a newbie should plan to spend a lot of time looking and listening and asking, before spending any significant money on domains.

 

[VaniMan]

>I guess I'm implying that a newbie should plan to spend a lot of time looking and listening and asking, before spending any significant money on domains.

1-3K is the best to start with.

 

[JMJ]

There are plenty of names left wide open and ready for registration which can be sold for a decent profit. Grant it if you want thousands for your names your odds are slim but that holds true with any extension. You just have to think outside the box.