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I've got a couple of very marketable .TV names, but my other established business interests keep me from development of them. And I don't really want to sell. Are there any firms/individuals that partner with .TV domain name holders to develop worthwhile names? Not just a PPC site, but actual creative development. There is a lot of potential $$$ here.

I would split ownership in the names for the right developer, but I would want to be sure that it gets developed, and I don't give away half ownership for nothing...so, I suppose there would have to be a contract that includes set milestones and responsibilities.

Anyone have experience with this? These are music and software related.

Please PM and I'll let you know what the names are.

Note: I have developed the names in my signature to good success, but even they are a sideline to my main business - I don't have time for anything else.

Thanks!
 
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Thanks for the PMs. I've replied to all but will be gone until middle of next week.
 
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Oh heck, I could use help to.
 
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Back in town, please keep sending the PM replies. Looking for a serious developer with interest in creating a profitable business from the names. I will contribute more than just the domain, but I'm not looking to sell the names, or to outright pay for development. That would still leave me with all of the time required for the marketing and promotion needed to build the business.

Thanks!
 
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i noticed ustream.tv recently, seems nice guys, they developing some tv platform, ask 'em

..and let us know
 
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Thanks again for all the PMs. If you've have any experience with domain holder/developer contracts or partnerships please reply on the thread in public so others can gain insight, too.
 
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Partnering and contracts...

Shammy said:
Thanks again for all the PMs. If you've have any experience with domain holder/developer contracts or partnerships please reply on the thread in public so others can gain insight, too.

Shammy, we were considering partnering with domain holders. We took it off the table because of all the whining about our lack of graphics. :) We continue to build our television channel platform. We still think that content is king and that look is secondary.

We are also contract experts. If I had a dollar for all the contracts we have drafted in our careers...

What are the domain names that you are asking to develop? I would like to do a search using our autofeed system using revver.com and see what we get? We are about to unleash this refined tool on YouTube and any other services with money attached to the vids/views. We have well over 200K videos with just the channels we have up and we are only really grabbing revver.com with our autofeed tool, thus far. When we unleash on YouTube, we will have millions. We are upgrading our servers to handle this. At this point we would have to be very selective who we worked with. If we gave the power of our tools to just any domain holder, like me.tv does, we would have 100 million videos in libraries within weeks, many duplicates from channel to channel, if you had multiple domain holders with the same topic. I still don't understand how me.tv is going to do this; allow for their users to have advanced tools for gathering subject matter videos in mass?

On the topic of contracts, I had a thread a while back that we got shut down trying to talk about contracts. You might have a look at that thread if its still out there? I think there were good ideas in this old thread about contracts.

Thanks,

Dave Lalande
Impel.TV
 
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Thanks, Dave. I sent you a PM.
 
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You're right, deb. Think about it, what makes video the future over text? It's the fact that people relate to and understand images better than written words. That should apply to the home page of a .tv site regardless of the content.

You might argue the initial 'look' of the home page is more important than the content, because unless you immediately attract the viewer with the right images and text, they will never bother to proceed past the home page. But, you can't separate the two, because without good content, you'll never get a return customer.
 
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i just found national.tv check it out, looks really professional and they are actively looking for partners to accelerate the development of the TV channels in their network :)
 
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Graphics...

Okay... With reference to graphics. Please don't tell Google and Craigslist that they will fail if they don't have nice graphics. As we bring up millions of videos all nicely categorized, graphics become less and less important.

Something to consider. If you are developing one channel or two channels, its fairly easy to deal with graphics. If you are dealing with hundreds of domains running a platform that gets upgraded regularly, it takes on a whole new set of complexities and costs. You have to make sure that your upgrade engine can upgrade the channels without blowing up the graphics or remove the need for a designer to constantly fix. add new buttons and support your custom front end. You would need an army of designers to deal with, say 500 channels. Many domain holders here on Namepros have dozens and some hundreds of domains. It's unrealistic for these domain holders to develop a slick/pretty front-end to these domains, individually. Once you make one upgrade to the feature set, you have to have a designer work it in. People touting this notion have 0 development background or they have millions of dollars and an army of designers.

Look at Veoh.com for instance. Veoh is an "aggregator". They are doing something similar to Impel.TV. Gathering all/most of the free video content on the Internet. The difference is they have one front-end to deal with. What makes us special is we are a network of smartly named domains and the content is parsed/placed within the relevant domain. Much, much harder to deal with graphics. Impel.TV is a "packager" using hundreds of domains with hundreds of front-ends.

I respect what National.TV is trying to do with election.tv, but its not realistic to do this over all their domain names. They have hundreds of domains. It's not a wonder they are looking for money. They will need a TON of money to make all their domains look as nice as election.tv. Our channel voteguide.tv has nearly 3000 videos and our politicalguide.tv has another 4500. Both these channels are sneaking up to the top of the search engines, because of content. For the words US Election Televisionโ€ already voteguide.tv is on the first page of Yahoo. We'll soon turn our newly tweaked autofeed system onto YouTube and other services and add 10's of thousands more videos about politics, the search engines will look even more kindly on these channels. As we roll out marketing, it will be hard to compete with these channels. I have talked to the VC's at National.TV, they seem like swell guys. But they are concentrating on looks, not content, from what I can tell?

In Feb. we had a nice common front-end, that we could deploy network wide, created by a talented designer. We chose to sit on it and concentrate on content. Soon we will roll out this simple design across the network. The design has to work with the network, not the other way around. Not to mention, television networks have to work with television remote controls. As these .tv's roll onto our televisions via set-top boxes, many of these designs you seeing will not work effectively with the buttons on a remote control.

If you're interested in seeing this "common design strategy", PM me and I will email you a couple of snapshots.

I hope that this post is not taken as an advertisement for Impel.TV. I am simply trying to educate the differences in developing a single Website and a television network. Hopefully this post will help give ideas/considerations to multiple domain holders considering developing their names?

Dave Lalande
Impel.TV
 
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I`d like to do the same thing , I have very nice GEO names.

But no time to develop them.
 
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who are the major/best .tv development partners for one word generic .tvs?

national.tv me.tv or impel.tv etc once you commit you cannot change so its important to get it right the first time. :imho:

dave i dont agree "graphics become less and less important."

compare http://www.impel.tv/ to election.tv or http://www.hallmarkchannel.tv or stuff.tv your site looks a little bland to me in comparison :imho:

although i hear your upgrading soon......

also

"I have talked to the VC's at National.TV, they seem like swell guys. But they are concentrating on looks, not content, from what I can tell?"

this is what your missing, they are equally important :imho:
 
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I hope that this post is not taken as an advertisement for Impel.TV. I am simply trying to educate the differences in developing a single Website and a television network. Hopefully this post will help give ideas/considerations to multiple domain holders considering developing their names?

Dave Lalande
Impel.TV

No offense dude, but certainly seems that way to me Dave. It's now become another impel thread.

IMO, graphics are very important. If a site looks a mess it doesn't instill confidence. Mentioning Google is just plain silly. Of course that doesn't look that impressive - it doesn't need to! On the other hand Dave, with what you are offering I would think it essential to look sharp and cutting edge. Which it doesn't.

IMO.
 
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Ummagumma said:
If a site looks a mess it doesn't instill confidence. .
IMO.

exactly :)

****Total Number of Videos In Network 208315
Total Number of Videos Added Today 0
Total Number of Views 34267 (Since 7/5/07)
*****Total Number of Views Today 87
Total Number of Autofeed Publishers 376
 
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simple common design...

PM and I will email you a "simple common design" similar to what we are going to use across the network.

The point is that you cannot customize 500 channels unless you have tens of millions of dollars and an army of designers. Comparing our look of hundreds of channels to people with one domain is apple and oranges.

I tried to go into Hallmarkchannel.tv and got a 404, when I selcted the USA region? Neither of these designs (Hallmark or National) will work well with a remote control. You literally you have to get out of Website mode and get into television channel mode IMHO.

I don't want to post here again about graphics. This is Shammy's thread about partnerships. Shammy's trying to find a partner and write a smart contract. Shammy, contracting a "look" for each channel will be tough, but not near as tough as the db development and features (especially admin tools). Mission creep becomes a problem.

Dave
 
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