.tv .tv Development Network

[MillersCrossing]

Further to some recent posts on the thread .TV network, I thought it was a good idea to have .TV NP's who wish to develop sites that they think will become winners to have their own "UNDEVELOPED" .TV network.....to discuss, to share info, to recommend web developers, outsourcing of website development, marketing ideas video content, to possibly pooling development funds (needs to be discussed in more detail, alot more detail) anything and everything that will help us reach our development goals of having our dreams turn into reality..

I know that this is what I would love to have, my very own developed site, taking on a life of its own....

PM me if this is something that you want to get involved in...... :talk:

 

[ATL.tv]

yes millers, yes.

i just purchased a canon x2 professional digital camcorder. i got the hard drive to record directly onto instead of tape which makes editing much faster/easier.

now i'm looking to host one of my .tv's and put the edited video on it. does anyone have experience doing this? my question is, what are some good hosting companies to use for video (in terms of price per space), or would it be better to have it hosted by a third party "free video host" site and embed it?

 

[MillersCrossing]

LET ME ADD TO THAT, Aamaretto

I have purchased SORENSON SQUEEZE software, which will take your AVI files and convert them to Flash, (to really lighten the bandwidth volume) or you could get a dedicated flash server that could encode and upload at the same time.........

This info I have got from Argos, who has been so patient with me!!!!

So if you are interested, send me a PM to let me know you want in, and once there are a minimum of four of us - we can thimnk up a sensible plan that would benefit us all!!

yes millers, yes.

i just purchased a canon x2 professional digital camcorder. i got the hard drive to record directly onto instead of tape which makes editing much faster/easier.

now i'm looking to host one of my .tv's and put the edited video on it. does anyone have experience doing this? my question is, what are some good hosting companies to use for video (in terms of price per space), or would it be better to have it hosted by a third party "free video host" site and embed it?

 

[gamehouse]

Regular videos --> Flash videos, thats the way to go to save BW.

I have purchased SORENSON SQUEEZE software, which will take your AVI files and convert them to Flash, (to really lighten the bandwidth volume) or you could get a dedicated flash server that could encode and upload at the same time.........

This info I have got from Argos, who has been so patient with me!!!!

So if you are interested, send me a PM to let me know you want in, and once there are a minimum of four of us - we can thimnk up a sensible plan that would benefit us all!!

 

[ATL.tv]

millers, i will now refer to you as MX

i'm about to purchase flash 8 professional... will i need to install the flash player on my site to play flash videos upon loading?

 

[namenut]

Miller, lets set up a fund here and donate NP's to hire NP designers and do it ourselves. We can put together some cookie cutter landing pages and host all of them in an intranet. We can share templates, links, content, designers etc in effort to coral the dot TV energy here and now.
I'll put 5000, 10,000 name bucks in to start it off. You in?

namenut

 

[MillersCrossing]

Lets get this started

I will PM you this evening!!

Anyone else - please feel free to get involved....there are two issues here - 1. To develop prime sites - where an emphasis on time and money will be required (and split amongst whomever is in - volume should lessen the $ per hour web design costs - sorta like a group discount) and 2. to get the less than prime sites up and running for the least cost price possible - and let the sites run on autopilot till more efforts can be concentrated on them.

Aameretto, let me know if you are still looking to pitch in.....and I will contact everyone sometime this evening/tomorrow with a proposal....!!

Miller, lets set up a fund here and donate NP's to hire NP designers and do it ourselves. We can put together some cookie cutter landing pages and host all of them in an intranet. We can share templates, links, content, designers etc in effort to coral the dot TV energy here and now.
I'll put 5000 , 10,000 name bucks in to start it off. You in?

 

[ATL.tv]

sure

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

PM me as well.

 

[dottvfan]

yeah, I'm in. The problem as I see it though is working through the order of jobs. perhaps a ballot system?

 

[equity78]

aaamaretto also looking to purchase a camera would you recommend the one you just purchased? How is it for ease of use for a newbie? Thank you

Good Idea Millers but first make sure you get people committed to who is in and then make it official. A lot of times everyone pumped up in the beginning but once stuff gets moving things go all over the place.

Get the proper documentation
% of ownership
everyone's buy in
WHat will happen if there is an offer on a domain? Some might want to hold and some might want to sell. How will each side get what they want. Example Ninjas.tv 4 people are in and the site starts getting promoted, Someone offers $3000 for the domain and two want to sell and two don't you need to know how you will handle those types of offers on domains. Get everything official upfront. Too many times everyone thinks oh we got nothing now just see how it goes. WRONG because everything needs to be established at the beginning because once things get going agendas can change.

 

[dottvfan]

aaamaretto also looking to purchase a camera would you recommend the one you just purchased? How is it for ease of use for a newbie? Thank you

Good Idea Millers but first make sure you get people committed to who is in and then make it official. A lot of times everyone pumped up in the beginning but once stuff gets moving things go all over the place.

Get the proper documentation
% of ownership
everyone's buy in
WHat will happen if there is an offer on a domain? Some might want to hold and some might want to sell. How will each side get what they want. Example Ninjas.tv 4 people are in and the site starts getting promoted, Someone offers $3000 for the domain and two want to sell and two don't you need to know how you will handle those types of offers on domains. Get everything official upfront. Too many times everyone thinks oh we got nothing now just see how it goes. WRONG because everything needs to be established at the beginning because once things get going agendas can change.

Miller, are you talking about ownership share (as per Equity's post), or just sharing development costs to reduce expense for those that want to develop, with owners retaining ownership of their domains?

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

I also hate to be the bearer of bad news, but speak to an attorney. If you solicit shares in a corporation, then you will have to comply with securities laws. There are exemptions that you are likely to qualify for. If guys start up a company and their contributions are exchanged for ownership, this could be different. Not sure. I am not a securities lawyer.

 

[ATL.tv]

aaamaretto also looking to purchase a camera would you recommend the one you just purchased? How is it for ease of use for a newbie? Thank you

Good Idea Millers but first make sure you get people committed to who is in and then make it official. A lot of times everyone pumped up in the beginning but once stuff gets moving things go all over the place.

Get the proper documentation
% of ownership
everyone's buy in
WHat will happen if there is an offer on a domain? Some might want to hold and some might want to sell. How will each side get what they want. Example Ninjas.tv 4 people are in and the site starts getting promoted, Someone offers $3000 for the domain and two want to sell and two don't you need to know how you will handle those types of offers on domains. Get everything official upfront. Too many times everyone thinks oh we got nothing now just see how it goes. WRONG because everything needs to be established at the beginning because once things get going agendas can change.

eq:
it's the best camera (period). it retails for $5000+ but shop and you can find it for just under $3000. I'm launching PGA.tv in the coming weeks. Check it out and see for yourself the camera's quality.

 

[MillersCrossing]

All Very Good Questions And Concerns.......

Miller, are you talking about ownership share (as per Equity's post), or just sharing development costs to reduce expense for those that want to develop, with owners retaining ownership of their domains?

I think both have valid advantages and disadvantages......I think , IMHO, that it would be easier and far less complicated to buy wholesale development costs, cross links, software, licence fees - whilst retaining complete ownership of each individuals website......

There could be one exception though, we could choose one site from the pool of prospective developments that we would all cast a ballot on (as you suggested on another point DOTTV) to be THE one to go for big time as far as both what the potential of the name has to offer and how well it could take off if everyone threw something towards the dev of that particular site...I think we could manage that........again just a thought to throw out there..
So far, Aaamaretto, DOTTV,Silicon Finance,Namenut & myself have expressed a definate interest - and I know that I have at least 3 mini sites & two full sites that I would like to get going with.......let me know by PM please how many you want to have up & running...the number may well exceed 15/20....imagine the buying power of development knowhow....and anyone else can chip in their sites too.....I think Friday night would be a great cut off date - it will give everyone time to decide if they want in - and how many sites they want built.......we can then discuss whom to take this collective mammoth project too - which state of the art interactive web design/development company wants our business and more importantly, deserves our business...

Once we choose whom to go with....we then negotiate the price per website...now each site will be either very similar priced or more and less expensive - depending on what is required for each project - everyone is entitled to back out due to costs exceeding their expectations, but hopefully, saying you want in - means you are serious about getting your .TV sites developed....and not wasting everyones time.....and will have some sort of idea as to what you can contribute upfront - so for instance, my projects I am prepared to commit $5000 US dollars towards, which works out to roughly $1000 per project.......work out your math and let us know your dollar amount..

Finally - if we can all agree on one super site to develop - then we all need to agree on a fixed sum and choose which one of our site names to develop - and the awful contractual paperwork that would entail!!.....if it proves to be too much of a headache...we can of course forget about it....

This is it gentleman (no ladies so far I think!) this is the line we need to cross to get our sites up and running - creating a super highway of linked .TV websites ......who knows where this could go.....and what coverage this project could get!!

I will now stop smoking the joint!!!!!!!!

Millers

 

[gamehouse]

My 2 cents jotted down as they come into my mind.

1. All the above ideas are great
2. As said, collective knowledge of knowhow in this dottv arena is invaluable.
3. Dollar amount talks should be kept private. Prosepective programmers are reading too.
4. I believe its also possible to get a site done buying help here and there if you know what the final product should be and know a little how scripts and databases work rather than giving the total project to some company. The costs could be skyrocketing for what I know that a .tv site needs
5. If there is a question of developing one name to its full potential, its highly important that everything is documented and laid out before hand.
6. If I remember correctly similar idea was discussed or implemented before in this subforum but did not finish I guess, better read there to see why not.
7. I am thinking/planning to acquire one of the premium names, and If I do, I may join.

EDIT: One more point, the whole thing can be broken down into various things such as initially getting the sites up, then advertising,adding advertisements (possible embedded in the videos), most importantly hosting constraints related to possible bandwidth usage etc.

Thats it for now,

GH

 

[MillersCrossing]

Absolutely, Gamehouse.....

All points below are valid particularly the dollar amounts......

I could act as the gatherer of all that info by PM - or we could nominate someone who perhaps has been around longer on this forum and has established strong relationships with fellow .TV domainers.....whom know and trust the nominated person.......I really am not looking to grab the limelight here - at all.......but I will do it if no one else will......

On point 4....yes the costs of .TV are way more expensive than normal websites....I am trying to solve this problem by possibly outsourcing abroad through websites like GURU.COM - some web developers abroad (particularly India) charge a rate of $10 an hour and still make it into the most recommended list of web developers......add the mass of projects and the cost per project could lower drastically based upon wholesale negotiation -WITHOUT COMPROMISING QUALITY......

Point 5.......Yes, definate headache but the rewards could be outstanding!!

Point 7 - good luck with your premium reg!!!

My 2 cents jotted down as they come into my mind.

1. All the above ideas are great
2. As said, collective knowledge of knowhow in this dottv arena is invaluable.
3. Dollar amount talks should be kept private. Prosepective programmers are reading too.
4. I believe its also possible to get a site done buying help here and there if you know what the final product should be and know a little how scripts and databases work rather than giving the total project to some company. The costs could be skyrocketing for what I know that a .tv site needs
5. If there is a question of developing one name to its full potential, its highly important that everything is documented and laid out before hand.
6. If I remember correctly similar idea was discussed or implemented before in this subforum but did not finish I guess, better read there to see why not.
7. I am thinking/planning to acquire one of the premium names, and If I do, I may join.

Thats it for now,

GH

 

[dottvfan]

Aaamaretto, you have threads.tv (from memory). Perhaps a forum could be locked off on your site to discuss this in private?

Millers, Aaamaretto has kindly locked off a section of threads.tv for discussion of this matter. Perhaps you could post your thoughts/proposal there.

If Aamaretto hasn't given you the password you can PM me for it.

 

[RPK]

Please count me in

 

[MillersCrossing]

Taking This Thread Off Line

AAmaretto,

Thank you for giving us forum space - if you are able - could you PM myself, Silicon Finance,Namenut, Gamehouse & Century Domains with the password for access to the forum.

Welcome on board Century Domains....

Once again, I think it would be worthwhile holding off discussions until the weekend (they can continue from there for as long as we like!!) so that anyone else who decides to join can do so by Friday without feeling left out or missing important issues - just my take....

You may post here or by PM to myself if anyone else wants in.

Finally, I understand that similar discussions were held in the past and did not work out. ( I have yet to read this thread)

Which is why I ask that only those who are really serious, and have their dollar budgets available - to get in touch - this project is not intended to be a discussion group - nor advice on the latest video embedding techniques etc, but an overall aim to get our sites up on air with one common theme, cross links, publicity, joint experiance, getting the best web developers to design/maintain our sites at a cost that would normally be out of reach of most of our individual price ranges and most importantly a site that has the oppurtunity to provide each one of us with an ongoing PROFITABLE business!!

I am forecasting that the strategy for this project could take us as long as a month to get everyone into agreement as how to proceed - to know where and whom will be developing our projects for us and then anything from one to two months for everyone to submit their proposed website wording and sketch layout to the company doing the work.......It will then go from us to the web design company and I am totally guessing here, it may take another month to six weeks to get us on air.......so we are looking at an on air date of around January/February time - any sooner would be a bonus.....

Good luck to everybody.

Millers

Aaamaretto, you have threads.tv (from memory). Perhaps a forum could be locked off on your site to discuss this in private?

Millers, Aaamaretto has kindly locked off a section of threads.tv for discussion of this matter. Perhaps you could post your thoughts/proposal there.

If Aamaretto hasn't given you the password you can PM me for it.