I think there is a decline in demand and price of .com domains because of new gTLDs. What's your opinion ?
I think new gTLDs do not affect much high level .com names at the moment (1 word .com name with large business potential). They also do not affect names in LL and LLL .com form.I think there is a decline in demand and price of .com domains because of new gTLDs. What's your opinion ?
Long story short - .com is fighting a battle on a thousand fronts. And while .com is king and some think its untouchable... Its reputation and perceived value is being attacked by literally thousands of new choices/extensions for end users which will only distort and destabalize .coms value even further - like waves slowly withering away a boulder. Worse part is that .com's only counter-attack is general perceived value from the past- which will inevtiably change like everything else in life. Especially when you find out that some "hot shot" .com domains dont have merely as much traffic as they are runoured to have. I mean its 2017 - lets be honest - who is honestly making money off parking domains??!!!
There was a time when Napolean Bonapart would use aluminum silverware over precious metals because its value was perceived as more at that time. Boy have times changed and will continue to change!!!
Eventually the walls will come crumbling down for most type of .com assets - aside from 1-3L .coms and short premium one words. Just my opinion
So far the instability is in the nTLDs.Long story short - .com is fighting a battle on a thousand fronts. And while .com is king and some think its untouchable... Its reputation and perceived value is being attacked by literally thousands of new choices/extensions for end users which will only distort and destabalize .coms value even further - like waves slowly withering away a boulder.
Domain extensions are not mere technical identifiers, but they are brands too.Worse part is that .com's only counter-attack is general perceived value from the past- which will inevtiably change like everything else in life.
So far the instability is in the nTLDs.
The past four years since nTLDs were introduced have been disappointing. Is the trend like to improve ? Why and how ? I think it could worsen. NTLDs are unwanted children trying to justify their existence. Consumers weren't asking for hundreds of arbitrary strings.
Domain extensions are not mere technical identifiers, but they are brands too.
.com is a brand
ccTLDs are brands too, and they are also virtual flags, that command allegiance.
Thus, they are not easily interchanged.
But one day .com will disappear for sure. The DNS will probably be obsolete before nTLDs become mainstream. But I think the DNS can last for a few more decades, like phone numbers which are old technology too.
.com has enormous accumulated mass with 130 million regs. Even if end users decided to ditch .com and shift to new extensions, they would take decades to catch up.
Still, for many years .com has been losing ground to ccTLDs in terms of market share. In mature markets outside the US, the local extension is considered more relevant than .com. So how are non-.com gTLDs supposed to thrive in that kind of environment ? There is very little room left. But again, they are so late to the game...
Oh by the way. If you are wondering if gTLDs are affecting .com growth we can have a guess:
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Source: http://www.registrarstats.com
The snowball effect has already started!!!
You increase supply and demand goes down.
If you compare Oct 6, 2017, to Oct 6, 2016, less overall regs.
You just gave a good reason new gtlds are a poor investment. So many out there, those that settle for second rate extensions, have many more second rate extensions to choose from.
I'm not even talking about whether something is a good/poor investment. Im simply answering the question based on fundamentals. The more options people have to choose from the more it will take away from the .com monopoly.
...Even if you're unimpressed that each ntld doesnt have 10s of millions of regs- it doesnt mean its not slowly chipping away at .com's numbers and value
Dont forget casino.online sold for xs $200,000. Not casinoonline.com
For many great extensions like .shop / .auto their future values will highly depend on their reg fees which are exorbitant at the moment.
Today's internet traffic growth rate is molasses compared to 1997-2002 which no surprise was the best time for one tld to establish dominance and the best time for investors to grab domain names. Current events are too little too late to make a dent in that.... the internet is growing exponentially!!!!
I don't have time now, but in one of the next days I could make a selection of names sold 5-7-10 years ago and which are for sale now or they were sold lately again, the prices are down even by 90% in some cases, I would like to see, if there are, some premium .com that have sold a few years ago for a certain amount and which were resold again in the last year or so higher, I don't think you could find even 5 examples. The first affected are truly the lower end value of com's, but it's like a chain reaction: the buyers of low cost com's are going to ngtlds, because of this, the prices of average 1k-3k are down, because it's less competition, to much inventory and multiple choices and it's going like this all the way up. My vision is that .com will always be the king, but I think it will drop in value until it will reach around 30% of the top prices from some years ago, 50% of the 1k or so ngtld will not survive(something like mobi), 25% will be average(like info-biz now) and 25% will do good, some will replace a part of the mid value .com's. Probably you can still find some high end sales for certain names, but these sales will not be a norm, more some isolate examples. Also, we have the crypto currencies market, parking and online ads value going down, alternative investments. The true is that around 60% of unicorn companies are still choosing .com for now, but you should consider that a few years ago 90% of them were choosing com and also the unicorn companies represent less than 1% of the total number of companies. 99% of the 6k startups born every day will afford a low cost brandable .com or a catchy ngtld, so all the statistics about what extension are using the companies raising millions/billions are not so important for 90% of the rest of us.
It chips away at other alternatives, .net, .co, .me, .info, other new gtlds etc. Not .com. There is .com, .org for where it makes sense, cctlds, then a whole slew of alternatives.
We're not talking about 10-20 new extensions that entered the market... we're talking about 1000+
There are plenty of billion dollar companies without .com and many more to come now with the new extensions- especially those with 2 words in them...the brands that best utilizes extensions like .group .management .agency and .technology.
We're not talking about 10-20 new extensions that entered the market... we're talking about 1000+
There are plenty of billion dollar companies without .com and many more to come now with the new extensions- especially those with 2 words in them...the brands that best utilizes extensions like .group .management .agency and .technology.
That makes it even worse. .com has 6 times the amount of regs than all the new ones combined and still growing, while the new gltds have been going in the opposite direction.
"There are plenty of billion dollar companies without .com and many more to come now with the new extensions"
Really? Give me a list of billion dollar companies that don't have a .com (they might go with their cctld). And you say more to come, like new businesses, startups etc? The ones that pick .ai over all the new gtlds combined? The ones where they're only picking new gtlds about 2% of the time? The ones where half the regs are from China? And the ones that do try to develop on a new gtld, there is going to be a .com owner always sitting there with the same keywords. Do you eventually pay them?
- so to flood it with this fodder is simply the controlling authorities up-high trying to milk the last out of the whole domain system.
I'm not even talking about whether something is a good/poor investment. Im simply answering the question based on fundamentals. The more options people have to choose from the more it will take away from the .com monopoly.
...Even if you're unimpressed that each ntld doesnt have 10s of millions of regs- it doesnt mean its not slowly chipping away at .com's numbers and value
Dont forget casino.online sold for xs $200,000. Not casinoonline.com
For many great extensions like .shop / .auto their future values will highly depend on their reg fees which are exorbitant at the moment.
That makes it even worse. .com has 6 times the amount of regs than all the new ones combined and still growing, while the new gltds have been going in the opposite direction.
"There are plenty of billion dollar companies without .com and many more to come now with the new extensions"
Really? Give me a list of billion dollar companies that don't have a .com (they might go with their cctld). And you say more to come, like new businesses, startups etc? The ones that pick .ai over all the new gtlds combined? The ones where they're only picking new gtlds about 2% of the time? The ones where half the regs are from China? And the ones that do try to develop on a new gtld, there is going to be a .com owner always sitting there with the same keywords. Do you eventually pay them?
Im not happy but it doesnt mean its not happening.
data?
Data? How bout the number of rightside/donuts registrations? Ummm whether they are down or not... and whether people want to admit or not - those registrations took value and growth away from .com
crm.supply is a dutch company with the website also being in the dutch language even though their domain is english and not using the .nl - but guess what... they took advantage of a high value globally recognized keyword (which would cost millions $$ in the .com) on an underrated extension that complimented it nicely and build a serious multi-million dollar brand/service.
also being in the dutch language even though their domain is english and not using the .nl - but guess what... they took advantage of a high value globally recognized keyword (which would cost millions $$ in the .com)
There are billion dollar hedge funds and finance companies that are switching to .management or .capital.
Im personally on the other side of the spectrum. For instance, I have a lot of [keyword]storage.com domains... and im scared i wont ever sell them now that .storage is here......and in all honesty why would any new storage company want to to purchase the equivalent .com - do you honestly think the .com will help their marketing?
Check these out: shop.link; star.house; sherpa.group; token.sale; learn.wine; op.media, all xxxxx sales (and others over 1500 xxxx sales, over 200 xxxxx sales and other xxxxxx sales like these) where the equivalent .com stays parked, or a blog or not revolving at all....if you still think that they are not affecting sales, you should think about it. I've hand regged com where the equivalent ngtld was used by companies with xx or xxx employees...that should say something as well.It chips away at other alternatives, .net, .co, .me, .info, other new gtlds etc. Not .com. There is .com, .org for where it makes sense, cctlds, then a whole slew of alternatives.
Check these out: shop.link; star.house; sherpa.group; token.sale; learn.wine; op.media, all xxxxx sales (and others over 1500 xxxx sales, over 200 xxxxx sales and other xxxxxx sales like these) where the equivalent .com stays parked, or a blog or not revolving at all....if you still think that they are not affecting sales, you should think about it. I've hand regged com where the equivalent ngtld was used by companies with xx or xxx employees...that should say something as well.
The last month is misleading as well...in last two years, there were over 3k ngtld sales, still far away from .com, but eating a lot of .com's pie...80% of my sales are still com, but it's affecting my com sales and it's not just me. Also, like everybody, I have friends connected to offline and online small businesses, and they are all intrigued by the ngtlds, they are catchy, something new...I'm not saying that it will change overnight, but together with crypto currencies , stock markets and anything else, will affect sales and it will lower the ROI. Probably it will still take around 5 years for ngtlds to develop properly, but it will in time. It was the same in the late 90's for com, when it took years to reach maximum prices.these comparisons are sooooo misleading, last month we had over 4.5k .com sales reported vs. only 37(!) nGTLD sales.
37 sales a month is nothing and many of these of course registry sales at least half of them.
Something like 18 domainer sales a month. Investors must be going broke from lack of sales.
The last month is misleading as well...in last two years, there were over 3k ngtld sales, still far away from .com, but eating a lot of .com's pie...80% of my sales are still com, but it's affecting my com sales and it's not just me. Also, like everybody, I have friends connected to offline and online small businesses, and they are all intrigued by the ngtlds, they are catchy, something new...I'm not saying that it will change overnight, but together with crypto currencies , stock markets and anything else, will affect sales and it will lower the ROI. Probably it will still take around 5 years for ngtlds to develop properly, but it will in time. It was the same in the late 90's for com, when it took years to reach maximum prices.
Check these out: shop.link; star.house; sherpa.group; token.sale; learn.wine; op.media,