Archive.org Tip

[Name Trader]

Has anyone else noticed when searching archive.org for one expired domain after another, that you eventually get only the latest web page rather than the historical data in the database?

It happens after the searched data switches to a smaller font. The solution is to only do a search from either the archive.org front page or from a searched page which has the calendar of stored snapshots (which has the larger font) at the bottom. Once the results show in the smaller font, is when I see the latest web page rather than the historical data.

Another anomaly about this is when you are looking at the smaller font and click on a bar in one of the years, you go to exactly that page. But if you are looking at the larger font and click on a bar in one of the years, you go to the calendar showing all snapshots for that year. For the latter, it's a 2-click process to view a page, and preferable, imho.

Well this is what happens to me when searching for expired domains.

 

[alien51]

I have completely blocked all bots, crawlers, and IP addresses related to Archive.org.

I don't want any buyer getting influenced by a screenshot that was captured on any of my websites.

I only allow it it for domains that i already have end-user content. People who see that you have a "for sale" webpage on your domain for 5 years, says that you are having a hard time selling your domain and will lowball you in hopes of ending your misery.

 

[biggie]

Yes, but GoDaddy Auctions is the place to go for great domain names that are expiring or have been put up for auction. GoDaddy Auctions makes it easy to get the domain name you have been looking for

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lol


a godaddy borg

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People who see that you have a "for sale" webpage on your domain for 5 years, says that you are having a hard time selling your domain and will lowball you in hopes of ending your misery.

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on the contrary, people see that it's been parked for years and figure "damn they must be making lots of ppc revenue"!

or...

people see that you have a for sale sign for 5 years and figure .."he must be waiting for the right offer"




or


people see it's been for sale for 5 years and figure....

"this is one patient seller, bet over the years he's had plenty of lowball offers for that domain. so I better come high or stay at home".


lot of other sides to that assumption coin

imo....

 

[alien51]

on the contrary, people see that it's been parked for years and figure "damn they must be making lots of ppc revenue"!

Someone who knows what ppc revenue is, can already make an estimate based on researching the exact match type-ins based on the domain name. Just multiply it by the number of years he had the domain and there's no need to see the screenshot archives.

people see that you have a for sale sign for 5 years and figure .."he must be waiting for the right offer"

...."a right offer that most likely i cannot afford. He must have been asking for the moon to have gone on without a sale for 5 years".

people see it's been for sale for 5 years and figure....

"this is one patient seller, bet over the years he's had plenty of lowball offers for that domain. so I better come high or stay at home".

That's every domainer's default assumption. End-Users do not think that way.

lot of other sides to that assumption coin

Which is precisely why "neither confirm nor deny" can be better. Ambiguity means you pay at face value. And since premium domains are a rarity these days, getting stuck with a domain for years without a sale is most domainer's liability.

 

[biggie]

Someone who knows what ppc revenue is, can already make an estimate based on researching the exact match type-ins based on the domain name. Just multiply it by the number of years he had the domain and there's no need to see the screenshot archives.

:talk:

yeah right, prove it and tell me how much 'callmobile' com has earned since I've owned it

...."a right offer that most likely i cannot afford. He must have been asking for the moon to have gone on without a sale for 5 years".

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why would one think that was the ONLY domain the seller has and come to a conclusion that the seller has to be or is dependent on sales to survive.

That's every domainer's default assumption. End-Users do not think that way.

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seems your assumptions, are to assume, what and how an end-user thinks, like they think, inside the same box you do.

Which is precisely why "neither confirm nor deny" can be better. Ambiguity means you pay at face value. And since premium domains are a rarity these days, getting stuck with a domain for years without a sale is most domainer's liability.

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not being able to sustain, is what makes a domainer default


domains don't have to be premium to sell

every domain is not premium when it is first conceived or caught


getting stuck with "a" domain is no big deal, if you're making money from the other ones


imo...

 

[alien51]

I know extremely intelligent domainers will find it difficult to agree with each other. lol

 

[biggie]

I know extremely intelligent domainers will find it difficult to agree with each other. lol

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I agree, sometimes that's true


but as long as we agree to disagree, intelligently

then it's cool

 

[mjnels]

pfffffff you can probably count the end users on one hand that has ever thought... "golly, this has been parked for 5 years it must be making a lot of PPC revenue"

yes everything is an assumption but thats a stretch.

 

[biggie]

pfffffff you can probably count the end users on one hand that has ever thought... "golly, this has been parked for 5 years it must be making a lot of PPC revenue"

yes everything is an assumption but thats a stretch.

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if all the end-users you've ever encountered, could be counted on one hand....then surely your assumptions of what they would think as a group, would be limited because you only met 5 end-users.



but why assume that it has to be an end-user, who is looking at the name

and

why assume a domainer can't or won't, pay as much as an end-user would?


imo...

 

[mjnels]

im just saying most non-domainers dont know what PPC revenue is so the likelihood of one of them thinking, as you explained above: "golly gee gosh this sure is generating a lot of PPC rev... i wonder what parking platform they're using" is pretty slim

 

[alien51]

To resolve this deadlock, we should differentiate between two (2) types of "End-Users".

End-Users who chase extremely premium domains, and who hire professional brokers to arrange multi-million dollar deals and therefore are very well versed with anything related to domains, ppcs, price negotiations, domain auctions, what-have-yous....

and

the casual end-users who merely want a domain for their website, then continue living with their normal lives after buying the domain.

 

[Name Trader]

If anyone can't remain on topic from the original post, then P.O.