Anyone Like the New Xyz Websites

[jedaprin]

Hey guys just curious if anyone likes the new xyz websites i my self have bought over 100 of them. i think there like the new .net or .org i dont think it will surpass .coms only because .coms have been around for over 30 years
anyways i got clever and bought
Xcell.xyz
Xsell.xyz
fictional.xyz

and theres still a crap ton of premium ones left
ive been buying them ultra cheap

 

[jmcc]

Have a full web usage survey of .XYZ scheduled for this week. It should provide some insights into how the gTLD is developing.

Regards...jmcc

 

[kerala]

And 99% of those will expire in the next 2 years

An extension with 3 syllables will never work, looks and sounds silly

I could not understand the problems with 3 syllables. Internet users have no problems with .nyc and .co.uk/ .com.au..etc. xyz is also in the same category.

I registered 1500+ .xyz for total $3000.
I already sold some .xyz domains for $5500
ie, I covered my registration cost and got profit of $2500
(i know some friends here will not believe me / and the above calculation. I started .xyz registrations only in august 2015 after google news. Also I got offers of mid $$$$$ (bulk purchase of my 250+ .xyz names and I declined the offers)

I like .xyz. We cant buy a decent .com/.net/.org for usd 3000. Also we have to wait for years to get profit from the single .com/.net/.org name.

 

[jmcc]

I could not understand the problems with 3 syllables. Internet users have no problems with .nyc and .co.uk/ .com.au..etc. xyz is also in the same category.

My views might be different to most domainers. There is a world of difference between .co.uk, ccTLDs and regional gTLDs like .nyc and a generic like .xyz gTLD. The ccTLDs and regionals have very clearly defined markets by their very nature. The .xyz gTLD does not as it is a generic. The renewal rates in generics tend to be quite different to renewal rates in ccTLDs (actively used ones).

Regards...jmcc

 

[BrandChimp]

.xyz holds wider scope............. it has wide area

.xyz means anything

girls.xyz means the website can provide any information or all things about girls

computer.xyz and so on..

For Every Website, Everywhere.

 

[ChubbyDfat]

.xyz holds wider scope............. it has wide area

.xyz means anything

girls.xyz means the website can provide any information or all things about girls

computer.xyz and so on..

So you are making the assumption that because .XYZ has no real direct and firm meaning... it can mean anything?

How about .OOO or .KIM or .FRL or .NRW? There are more to add to the list who have no real direct meaning but I have no desire to go through them all.

I am not seeing how this argument holds water as to making the extension more valuable. Lets take the two keywords you suggested.
Girls... I would hazard to say that if you where a business owner in Girls Dresses or Girls Shoes... you would see much more value in Girls(dot)Shoes or Girls(dot)Dresses then you would in Girls.XYZ.

Now with that said... I will concede that XYZ is generic enough to be usable across many spectrum.
I would say that XYZ leds itself better to the keyword Computer then the extension .HORSE.
It is more generic and more usable in that sense with a wider scope but not to be confused with more valuable then a specific small scope name.

My point is that it is known (and not really argued) that XYZ has inflated numbers. There are law suits out on the company for various reasons (one of which I stated earlier).
The person behind the company, is shady (to say the least) and has made it a bit of a habit to make things up to gain some media exposure.
Selling off his .COMs for example... he didnt sell them all like he said he would do.
Starting the rumor of Google wanting to buy XYZ... didnt happen.
His extension gains its 15mintues of fame but in the end... there is no real benefit to any of this.

I personally am not feeling it from this extension.
Even if I had a premium keyword... I would still not be feeling it from this extension.
Negari is the real problem behind this extension in my opinion.

Hope that makes sense.

Cheers

 

[Bean]

Yea I bought a few one-word premium .xyz too. xyz is the most generic extension of the lot and I too believe it will be recognized as such in time. Personally I think it might take 5 to 10 years before they gain real value but I'm happy to wait. Just make sure you set money aside to renew them all next year when they're at reg price else it'll be a waste.

 

[baseballworld]

Hey guys just curious if anyone likes the new xyz websites i my self have bought over 100 of them. i think there like the new .net or .org i dont think it will surpass .coms only because .coms have been around for over 30 years
anyways i got clever and bought
Xcell.xyz
Xsell.xyz
fictional.xyz

and theres still a crap ton of premium ones left
ive been buying them ultra cheap

Stick to strength and what you know is worthy. Hype leads to many more failures in this industry. Just because one person does something don't make it a sure thing.

 

[baseballworld]

Yea I bought a few one-word premium .xyz too. xyz is the most generic extension of the lot and I too believe it will be recognized as such in time. Personally I think it might take 5 to 10 years before they gain real value but I'm happy to wait. Just make sure you set money aside to renew them all next year when they're at reg price else it'll be a waste.

At 10 years cost of renewals each one netter be some giant sales and e very domain reselling at a 10 times roi or your gonna lose alot of money.

 

[phantasmagoria]

I think in the end it all depends on the quality of names you have with xyz, if you have a very premium name and invested 99 cents or hell even 5 years worth at the register for it, you will come out ahead in the end, how much I don't know.

The reason why I believe this is because it doesn't have to beat .com, it serves its own purpose, I mean there are good .info names now that have sold for a lot, granted it has been here longer, and in the end I think xyz will be doing at least better than a lot of the extensions that we have now.

Also a lot of what im seeing with premium names on namebio is that they sell, almost all my xyz domains have some record of another extension being sold. I mean if you see a .biz or .us selling for 4k on namebio for the same word you can obtain, and it's a premium, then register the name. The thing is, when you are looking for premium one word names, it comes with the package, usually it has already been previously sold just with another extension.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

There is some nice sales at namebio for .xyz
More than I thought there would be.
Mostly at Namejet, does that mean they were dropping?

 

[ChubbyDfat]

I think in the end it all depends on the quality of names you have with xyz, if you have a very premium name and invested 99 cents or hell even 5 years worth at the register for it, you will come out ahead in the end, how much I don't know.

That is part of the problem (maybe part of the main problem) right there in a nut shell.
A good majority of the PREMIUM domains are either reserved for the registry or put out by the registry at premium prices.
The chances of getting a premium domain in XYZ (or almost any other nTLD at reg fee) is fairly difficult at best. I look at some of these names that people have registered.... and they would be good names in .COM who has been around for 30 years and have well over 100 million domains names registered but they are not.
They are in an nTLD (with more nTLDs being made nearly weekly) and they are second tier at best.

I believe you are correct in one aspect of what you wrote.
The key is PREMIUM keywords at reg. fee and you will come out ahead.
We as domainers really need to lay off the second/third tier names.

Just an opinion.

Cheers

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

Are the following 3 words premium? Develop Developing Developer
Someone has bought up alot of .xyz geographic domain names for my area

 

[jmcc]

Are the following 3 words premium? Develop Developing Developer
Someone has bought up alot of .xyz geographic domain names for my area

Depends on the area and whether there is a strong ccTLD in it. The com/ccTLD axis generally occupy around 80% or more of a country's footprint. Then come the legacy gTLDs and then, often below 1% of the footprint come the new gTLDs. In the short term (5 years or so) this is unlikely to change. However if you are going to geographically target an area, go for the most commonly used TLD options if they are still available.

Regards...jmcc

 

[Abdullah Abdullah]

I registered few days ago some .xyz domains which I plan to develop sometime in the future. findcoupons.xyz , nycrentals.xyz RecipesWeb.xyz ,duidwi.xyz , domainfinder.xyz etc. I wanted those domains and in all other forms, most of them are taken I guess.

There is an acceptance now in new extensions so dont think it is problem or bad at all.

 

[jedaprin]

Well i do have some premium ones if you guys wanna grab em im not going to be able to re- register all 150 of them but ill try to hang on to atleast 10 or 20 of the best ones and develop them Check out my Haunted.xyz i started that and also started Gday.ca but i dont know how to insert the damn advertisement codes into my website
Haunted.xyz is on a wordpress Script
and Gday.ca is on a similar facebook script
my hosting plan only allows me to build 3 websites in your opinion what website sounds most appealing
CarMph.Com - Sellyn.com - Nephrite.org - Jadeite.xyz - BestBlog.xyz

So im glad some people also like the xyz extension i thought i was the only one, i believe it will do either 2 things, flop and fail miserably or gradually gain popularity and value, im happy to hang onto the premium ones i own but i cant keep them all so ill be auctioning off 80% of my xyz in about 40 days

 

[ChubbyDfat]

Are the following 3 words premium? Develop Developing Developer

*pure opinion based*
I see no real use for the term "Developing", as in the process of being developed. I cannot see an instance in which that keyword can be utilized by an end user (which is the ultimate goal).
I also cannot find any substantive evidence of that being a highly searched term which could possibly bring in organic traffic if you parked it or made it into a site. So from my opinion, there is no real $$$ to be made from this keyword... in any nTLD (unless it has a direct and meaning correlation with the extension... for example developing(dot)jobskills or developing(dot)websites *if those ever become extensions*).

Develop and Developer are much better names (again in my opinion) but their application is still limited. I would not classify them as PREMIUM, highly sought after names (in any extension but .COM). I do not think you will ever see them breaking name sales records if they where sold on the market (in .COM). They would probably command a 6 figure sales number (again in .COM) but nothing to test the upper limits of names sold.

Just look at some of the top domain names sold:
VacationRentals for 35m
PrivateJet for 30m
Insure for 16m
Sex for 14m
Hotel for 11m
Fund for just under 10m
Business for 7.5m
Diamond for 7.5m
Beer for 7m
Casino for 5.5m
Slots for 5.5m
They all have one thing in common... all .COMs.

A little forethought on how things are moving and considering all the new TLDs that are coming out (and some that have not even been developed yet) and will continue to come out.

Take feelings and hope out of the equation for a moment and give this a purely objective look.
As a domainer, would you seriously pay a premium price for some of these names in .XYZ (or any other extension for that matter... out side of .COM/NET/ORG)?
Pluto
Cine
Civil
Bit
Placeholder
Potent
Prism
Doe... and the list can go on.
Would you be willing to buy any of those domain names for $5,000... Hell... lets say $500?
If you are like me and answer no... how could you expect anyone else to shovel out that kind of $$$ for these types of domains but yet these domains have sold to domainers (probably caught up in some temporary hype and artificially inflated numbers).

Those keywords listed above would be fine in .COM but we are not dealing in .COM, we are dealing in nTLDs and a massive number of new ones are still on their way to coming out.

That is just my perspective.

I already sold some .xyz domains for $5500

Just curious on what names you sold.

Cheers.

 

[kerala]

chubbydfat,

i sold a keyword domain and some nnn.xyz names.
I sold nnn.xyz for cheap only to cover my registration cost.
nnn names to domain investors and keyword domain to a big company in us. keyword domain sale not completed, still under escrow, as I registered the domain in aug 24th and the domain sold within 1 month. Buyer want to transfer the name to his registrar godaddy from my registrar resellerclub. So, transfer will happen only after 60 days lock-in period.

thanks.

 

[ChubbyDfat]

chubbydfat,

i sold a keyword domain and some nnn.xyz names.
I sold nnn.xyz for cheap only to cover my registration cost.
nnn names to domain investors and keyword domain to a big company in us. keyword domain sale not completed, still under escrow, as I registered the domain in aug 24th and the domain sold within 1 month. Buyer want to transfer the name to his registrar godaddy from my registrar resellerclub. So, transfer will happen only after 60 days lock-in period.

thanks.

Cool... not bad.
Any names that you can give us of the domains that sold?

Cheers

 

[kerala]

sorry...

buyer selected "confidential" at escrow transfer / dns. I will ask them and inform you after completion of sale.

also I got offers for my .xyz domains, history, west, tomato, analysis, bern, astrology, digest, shower, slash, fuse, edge, nnn s, lll s...but no sales yet.

 

[ChubbyDfat]

Cool enough... It is always fun to put names to sales.

These nTLDs are surely a way to make quick $$$ if you buy correctly.
I have made the vast majority of my sales in nTLDs (if you include .CO in that group... yes I know its a ccTLD but it was pseudo rebranded) and I am a big believer in nTLDs as a way to make good $$$ and outstanding ROI provided that you get quality names.

My most recent one (which just finished transfer yesterday) was in the (barely heard of) .HOW extension. It was more of a "trying to be nice" sale because I made a mistake but I was still able to make 20x my money.
Sooner or later you will see a Sedo sale for R.HOW post one of these days (yeah... single letter domain at reg. fee with reg fee renewals... that is pure profit).

buyer selected "confidential" at escrow transfer

But to bring this back around, I have yet to come across a confidentiality agreement in my domain sales.
I am not sure (unless the price was too good to pass up) I would ever sell a name with a CA.
It takes away from free publicity for the domain and the extension, at the very least here on this forum and honestly, under most circumstances everyone will know who owns what domains either from the WHOIS or from development. This is why the CA thing never made sense to me and *IF* I ever come across one... I would likely tell them to pound sand (again... UNLESS the sale is just too good to pass up **50K+)

Ok... I am off my soap box now.

When you get the chance, please post the names of the sales.

Cheers.

 

[DTR Alex]

as per Namebio:

stocks.xyz - $1000
paul.xyz - $1,999
cloud.xyz - $6,600
customer.xyz - $1,999
ccc.xyz - $1,210
deals.xyz - $8, 113

 

[ChubbyDfat]

as per Namebio:

stocks.xyz - $1000
paul.xyz - $1,999
cloud.xyz - $6,600
customer.xyz - $1,999
ccc.xyz - $1,210
deals.xyz - $8, 113

Some of these names where already covered a year or so back.
Deals.XYZ is the most notable.
That one (apparently) was sold to the registry itself in a namejet auction and then promptly put into privacy whois.
I think it was Online Domain who ran an article about it a while back at the time of the auction. Its been a while but I am not enthused with that number based on the controversy around it.

The other names are decent enough sales.
Keep in mind that the CLOUD (what I would consider a premium keyword and highly sought after) was only able to pull in $6,600 (and that was only 2 months ago).

Good sale... low number for the keyword but this may be indicative of nTLDs and the bounty of *real* premium keywords.

I think this is further food for thought and a good example (if we are going to be real about this) that the second tier names that are getting tossed around here that people are gobbling up, may be worthless.

I just cant see how some of these names can be justified in any extension outside of .COM.

Just my thoughts. Hope that makes sense.

Cheers

 

[jedaprin]

lol i grabbed these ones the other day do you think there worth holding for a few years, im actually new at buying and selling domains i started like last month. I also need to sell some soon as i want to cover my over all cost and maybe grab a couple more premium ones i signed up to 4.cn and also namejet is a pain in the ass
travelresort.xyz
hotelresort.xyz
modify.xyz
Yens.xyz
sahara.xyz

I could see myself paying a few hundred bucks for a really nice premium .XYZ, also another thing i heard is its better to have happy-hour.com for search engines then to have happyhour.com im not sure if this is true or not but i did read an article

also what are the best websites to sell XYZ Domains on ive signed up for Flippa, sedo, domainsales.com, 4.cn, and namejet but im still in the process with namejet

 

[jedaprin]

Just Bought
JetCraft.xyz
mercenary.xyz
Zest.xyz

I think im addicted to buying domain names. I just cant seem to stop like common JetCraft.xyz For $1.50 And Zest.Xyz for $1.50 Ps I left Some Room for who ever wants to grab JetCrafts.xyz

anyways happy hunting

 

[ulterios]

I think im addicted to buying domain names.

I definitely know that feeling. I have been there many times and just keep registering lots of domains.

Just make sure you are buying other extensions, especially .com domains. The .xyz domains aren't the more sought after extensions, especially by end-users who aren't familiar with it, so if you can get some others then that will help if the .xyz's aren't selling.