Anyone Like the New Xyz Websites

[jedaprin]

Hey guys just curious if anyone likes the new xyz websites i my self have bought over 100 of them. i think there like the new .net or .org i dont think it will surpass .coms only because .coms have been around for over 30 years
anyways i got clever and bought
Xcell.xyz
Xsell.xyz
fictional.xyz

and theres still a crap ton of premium ones left
ive been buying them ultra cheap

 

[gilescoley]

Welcome to NP

My advice is not to waste your money on any of the new extensions, stick to the strong extensions

These are not premium names as they are in .xyz
Keywords like Fictional are not premium keywords
Names like XCell and XSell are definitely not worth registering

Always research for registering any names and check to see if there are any potential buyers for the name before registering it

Have a look at namebio.com and dnjournal.com to get an idea of what sort of names sell

 

[4pm]

Anything new with .xyz ive been pretty busy ? are you guys still grabbing good ones or they mostly all gone now

you have not missed much...

guys still grabbing "good ones", "good ones" still not selling, NP still waiting for China to finally ban com, com still dying...

..same boring world around

 

[DTR Alex]

.xyz holds wider scope............. it has wide area

.xyz means anything

girls.xyz means the website can provide any information or all things about girls

computer.xyz and so on..

 

[ChubbyDfat]

I think im addicted to buying domain names. I just cant seem to stop like common JetCraft.xyz For $1.50 And Zest.Xyz for $1.50

We have all been here and it is probably one of the most common rookie mistake.
This is an honest piece of advise regardless of the extension.... Take a step back and learn about domains before you waste a ton of time and money.

Domaining is not a guarantee that you will make cash flow or sell domain names.
You have to learn to be picky about the names you purchase otherwise you will wind up spending $$$ on names and carry them for YEARS only to wind up dropping them later when you realize that they have 0 value.

Yes, you can purchase XYZ names for $1.50 (on sale) right now but next when when it comes time to renew, it will likely go up to its NORMAL price of about $13.00 (about 9x the price you just paid for it).

Now, I am not bashing you here... I am just trying to help you figure things out.
Just giving you food for thought.

Names like Jetcraft have never sold in the aftermarket that I can find. It is not a highly searched set of keywords and you are likely to have to hold onto that domain name for years. So for all intents and purposes, you just shelled out $1.50 on a name that will likely never sell.

The keywords "Yens" sold this in the .COM extension.... for a grand total of $2,450. Keep in mind that this is the .COM version of the name which is very likely to have a value of 100x any value of .XYZ. This means that if you do actually sell Yens.XYZ the likely price would probably be about $2.45 (2 dollars and 45 cents). In other words... no real value.

I can not find any sales reports for "mercenary" and it is not a very highly searched term (probably put you on some list for making the search).

You picked up names like "travel resort" and "hotel resort" which are fairly good keyword domain names if they where in an upper end extension.
In new TLDs you are much better off getting forgoing the "fairly good" names for "premium" names.
You would have $$$ if you had a name like "resort.xyz" or "hotel.xyz"... maybe "travel.xyz". Those are much higher class keywords and more likely to sell with profit.

Please keep in mind that new extensions are coming out every week. Sooner or later the highly anticipated .WEB will make its debut and there will be much press and fan fair with that extension.
Also keep in mind that much of the press and fan fair that surrounds .XYZ has been negative in nature.

My earnest advice to you would be to save your $$$ and spend them on ONLY premium (normally single word, highly searched, highly advertised... *single/double characters also apply here*) keywords in reg. fee prices (if you can find them).
They will be rare, and you will need some luck to get them but they will most likely put the jingle in your pocket that you want to get.

You will have to put the work into finding them. Some extensions keep them for themselves. Some extensions put premium prices on premium keywords but every once in a while, you can find one that slips through the cracks and that is what you need to take advantage of.
Find those and buy those and sell those.

I hope that makes sense.

Cheers

 

[ChubbyDfat]

Thanks Man thats really good info. I wanted to get the super Premium ones but they were mostly all taken i did manage to find a few, i started like a month ago i would call them mostly semi premium, im happy with about 40% of what ive chosen so far the rest shall be sold off, i think i also bought lifeshop.xyz and healthshop.xyz

Do you know off hand any fairly good websites that i can auction off my domains for like $10 per auction ? or would it be best to auction off the bulk of my domains im not really interested in?

im excited for .web ill definately grab a few Premos if possible when is this starting anyways ?

A few things that I would like to point out before we get down to business.
As you stated, " im happy with about 40% of what ive chosen so far the rest shall be sold off" (a direct quote). If you break down what you just said, you will see that you admit to being "unhappy" or "less then" happy with about 60% of the domain names you have selected.

For this exact reason is why it is very important to take a breather. Stand back and assess what you are trying to do. If you bought 100 names and you are only happy with 40 of them... this necessarily means that you are unhappy with 60 of them.

Now your "PLAN" and "HOPES" are to sell off the 60% that you are less then happy with.
Think for a moment, if you are new to domaining and you are unhappy with these names... what would your chances HONESTLY be in selling those domains?
Most of the sales (I would hazard to put a number like 70% of them) that you see are between domainers and re-sellers (other domainers). If you as a beginning domainer are unhappy with some of these names, the logical point of view would be that other, more experienced domainers would likely be unhappy with those domains as well.

*In my opinion* Your best bet would be to pick out the names that you are going to develop and start that process. The remaining names, should be parked at a site (sedo for instance) with a for sale tag.
See if you get any organic nibbles.
You can try putting them on different auction sites (ebay, godaddy,...what have you). I have not seen much luck from them *personally*, while others have.
If you are feeling energetic and you have a domain that you believe (I would get others opinions first) is worth $$$, you can always promote that domain through many different avenues. Some of them require some sort of $$$ upfront so its best to make sure that the name is worth it first.

A suggestion going forward. Make yourself a list of domain names (premium names). Keep it on your computer. When a new TLD is launched (and you will have to keep track of this because the early bird gets the name), you can apply that list to the bulk searches and find out what names are available and at what prices.
This will really help you speed things along when GA just opens.
It will also help you not get lost in (as you say) semi-premium or (as I say) 2nd and 3rd tier names.

Stay on target, and choose only premium names (stick to the list) and be willing to walk away if there is nothing you can find.
Remember, (in my opinion) Premium keyword at reg. fee is your goal for all nTLD registrations.
Every single name I have picked up has been reg. fee so I know it is possible.
Some will fall through the cracks and if you have your list set up correctly... you should be able to find them.

I hope that makes sense and helps.

Cheers

 

[brandnow]

XYZ looks ridiculous.

With the right name, like ABC.XYZ or FEW.XYZ it looks okay. But to have plumbing.xyz (for example) looks dumb.

I have been on Namepros since early 2015 and remember vividly how many investors on here absolutely despised XYZ in early 2015. Then the Alphabet announcement, and everybody on here did a 180 degree turn. Nothing wrong with reassessing one's opinion. Just funny how the change happened so fast.

 

[ulterios]

XYZ looks ridiculous.

With the right name, like ABC.XYZ or FEW.XYZ it looks okay. But to have plumbing.xyz (for example) looks dumb.

I have been on Namepros since early 2015 and remember vividly how many investors on here absolutely despised XYZ in early 2015. Then the Alphabet announcement, and everybody on here did a 180 degree turn. Nothing wrong with reassessing one's opinion. Just funny how the change happened so fast.

Not me, I still think they just don't make sense most of the time. If someone wanted a cheap domain just to develop a website on, then that would be ok I guess. However, you won't catch me doing that.

If I wanted one of the newer generic extensions, I would prefer a .one.

 

[ChubbyDfat]

Personally... I am not excited about .XYZ and its prospects.

It is fairly widely known that a number of free domain names pad the registrations (it is thought to be in to the tune of 350k free domain names that where give out), based on comments Negari recently made to The Telegraph, in which he stated that .xyz, which had about 850,000 domains in its zone at the time, would have 500,000 registrations if the freebies were excluded.

It is also "alleged" that NetSol was paid $3 million to to bloat up the .XYZ numbers which corresponds with Verisign's lawsuit against .XYZ for allegedly “false” advertising.

I can not seem to rally behind the idea of .XYZ.
The numbers mean nothing, as they have been padded through multiple means.
Negari has stated to have gotten rid of all his .COMs but he still owns several valuable ones.
There was the rumor that Negari started about Google wanting to purchase .XYZ and he would not sell it.

It seems to me that this entire extension is all smoke and mirrors. Illusions used to make the extension "seem" bigger then it is and when that fails... more shenanigans to put it back to the limelight.
And like Enron knows first hand... once that corporate veil is pierced, it will be those who are standing around holding the bag (domain names in this case) who will be the losers.

Just my personal opinion based on what I see.

Cheers

 

[DNGear]

I am sorry. I am not agnst .com.
But, i am getting offers for my .xyzs

 

[phantasmagoria]

.xyz is primarily used by spammers because of the cheap registration cost. .xyz isn't a serious extension whatsoever.

There is SOME truth to that, but, every extension at some point had these cheap offers, spammers took advantage of it then too, nobody said chit. .XYZ might not be serious now, but you can't deny the numbers. It's impressive, not just for .xyz but all new extensions, spammer or not.

I've been saying this like 29834 times already, it's too soon for XYZ, it's doing GOOD at the moment, I will take it, I invested what 30 bucks total for really good keyword extensions. I've got nothing to lose here. Do I think they will be worth a lot more in the future? Yes

 

[ulterios]

.xyz's registration numbers are that high for a number of reasons. A couple of them are that they gave away thousands of them when they first came out and they have had registrations for around a dollar or so always. If they cost $8-10 dollars each then those numbers would be drastically lower.

The extension has also set records for the number of drops at the end of first year registrations as tons of them are not renewed.

I am not saying it's a bad extension, just that it would be better suited for building websites on right now rather than trying to flip domains. This might change in the future, but it will more than likely be a long time till that happens. There are exceptions in that if you have an ultra premium name then you might make a little money, but not just any name and nothing like the same name in the top extensions.

 

[kerala]

And 99% of those will expire in the next 2 years

An extension with 3 syllables will never work, looks and sounds silly

I could not understand the problems with 3 syllables. Internet users have no problems with .nyc and .co.uk/ .com.au..etc. xyz is also in the same category.

I registered 1500+ .xyz for total $3000.
I already sold some .xyz domains for $5500
ie, I covered my registration cost and got profit of $2500
(i know some friends here will not believe me / and the above calculation. I started .xyz registrations only in august 2015 after google news. Also I got offers of mid $$$$$ (bulk purchase of my 250+ .xyz names and I declined the offers)

I like .xyz. We cant buy a decent .com/.net/.org for usd 3000. Also we have to wait for years to get profit from the single .com/.net/.org name.

 

[Bean]

Yea I bought a few one-word premium .xyz too. xyz is the most generic extension of the lot and I too believe it will be recognized as such in time. Personally I think it might take 5 to 10 years before they gain real value but I'm happy to wait. Just make sure you set money aside to renew them all next year when they're at reg price else it'll be a waste.

 

[Wittybliss.com]

Thanks Man thats really good info. I wanted to get the super Premium ones but they were mostly all taken i did manage to find a few, i started like a month ago i would call them mostly semi premium, im happy with about 40% of what ive chosen so far the rest shall be sold off, i think i also bought lifeshop.xyz and healthshop.xyz

Do you know off hand any fairly good websites that i can auction off my domains for like $10 per auction ? or would it be best to auction off the bulk of my domains im not really interested in?

im excited for .web ill definately grab a few Premos if possible when is this starting anyways ?

Hello @jedaprin,
I understand your excitement about this .xyz stuff and for domaining itself.
let me tell you that we've all been excited too when we started. I should even be more excited since I have a website that just run pretty good on a .xyz. But I can assure you that .xyz is not yet worth making sacrifices for. It is a versatile extension as well, but not yet getting any meaningful attention.
If you start investing in it the way you are doing now, you may find yourself regretting after 4-6 months. The .xyz demand is too low presently, and the premium ones are all gone, and many .xyz will start dropping soon because there is no market for it at the moment. Since you are very excited and motivated to invest some more in buying domains, I suggest you to reconsider some advice giving to you by many ancient domainers on this forum.
Don't think that they are against you, no! They just understand a little bit more the domaining realm and are trying to help you out, so that your experince of domaining be much more better and fulfilling.
It will not sound sweet at your ears but it is true that some, if not most of the domains you registered are worthless.
Allow me to be hash a little bit toward you, all the intention is to help you make it successful. Anyway who made me a judge, I just say that by experience, yet I believe and am aware that in donaining anything is possible.
There is a lot here to inspire you. Follow this link so you want to be a domainer?
Enjoy my friend!

 

[JB Lions]

I am a little late so I apologize but I have what I believe you yourself would call a premium Domain ... WHISKEY.XYZ

As you know the domain of Whisky.com sold for $3.1 Million USD and not too long ago Whiskey.com was on auction on Flippa.
Whiskey denotes the more popular of the two "keywords" because it's American based whiskeys and Whisky denotes Scottish, which is more expensive compared to the American.

Curious to hear your opinion because in my honest opinion I think I am holding some gold here.

I used to do that too when I first started. Million dollar sales in .com, tried to get those keywords in other extensions. I once owned dating.bz, paid xx, sold it for 2xx. Owned electronics, unitedstates in .cc I believe, not much happened there either. Had some premium keywords in .ws. as well. Had coupons.md once. All newbies do that, it's not a bad idea, great keywords, but the extension matters. My rookie year, live and learn.

It's why you really need to look at what sales are happening with each extension. And even then, it's good to have a history. .mobi had sales over $100,000, now look at them. If you believe you have gold, tell me some other "gold" sales in the extension.

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

• Partner.xyz - $1700 - Namecheap
• Podcast.xyz - $1700 - Namecheap
• Rock.xyz - $1700 - GoDaddy
• Chess.xyz - $1500 - Namecheap
• Motor.xyz - $1500 - GoDaddy
• Halo.xyz - $1500 - GoDaddy
• Payment.xyz - $1200 - Namecheap
• iBank.xyz - $900 - Namecheap
• Automobile.xyz - $900 - GoDaddy
• Humor.xyz - $900 - Namecheap
• Motorcycle.xyz - $900 - Namecheap

 

[gilescoley]

Do you see newbies asking if they should invest in .ME or did you see any big companies talk about .ME

Not now, because it died a slow death like all the other new extensions, but when it came out it was exactly the same as whats happening with .xyz...look at the below sales when the extension was new and compare them to .xyz sales, surely this is telling you something

To be honest, at least .ME has a decent use and looks and sounds good. These domains sold because they make perfect sense because of the word "me"

You just cant compare the extensions at all, maybe in 5 or 10 years time, but certaily not now

Meet.me
$450,000

Buy.me
$148,000

Interest.me
$80,000

Date.me
$70,000

Join.me
$45,000

Business.me
$54,000

Sponsor.me
$34,000

Love.me
$32,000

Cruise.me
$28,000

Like.me
$26,000

Message.me
$25,200


and some nice .US sales as well

video.us 75,000 USD
sextoys.us 51,100 USD
job.us 35,532 USD
taxi.us 35,000 USD
models.us 30,000 USD
jew.us 29,500 USD
famo.us 25,000 USD
jews.us 25,000 USD
baseball.us 25,000 USD
nashville.us 23,000 USD
band.us 20,200 USD
AED.us 20,000 USD
foods.us 20,000 USD
football.us 18,510 USD
video.us 18,500 USD
beats.us 18,000 USD
bitcoin.us 17,500 USD
computer.us 17,000 USD
pling.us 16,300 USD
miami.us 15,000 USD
bingo.us 15,000 USD
sextoys.us 15,000 USD
areacodes.us 15,000 USD
message.us 14,000 USD
christian.us 13,500 USD
very.us 13,000 USD
xboard.us 12,500 USD
courses.us 12,500 USD
flags.us 12,000 USD
flights.us 11,770 USD
insure.us 10,500 USD
californiapoker.us 10,000 USD
iceland.us 10,000 USD
brent.us 10,000 USD
add.us 10,000 USD
roommates.us 10,000 USD
yes.us 9,999 USD
onlinecasinos.us 9,999 USD
tajweed.us 9,743 USD
hangover.us 9,500 USD
cheapcars.us 9,230 USD
birminghamnews.us 9,000 USD
fab.us 8,995 USD

 

[mad409]

@brandnow Don't go there my friend, it's a new site and you're way out of line with your comment...

With any new launch it takes time for sales, comments and reviews.

 

[Wannabean]

I am a little late so I apologize but I have what I believe you yourself would call a premium Domain ... WHISKEY.XYZ

Stuff like this is worth holding on to. One word, short, marketable, category killer stuff is likely to do well in the long run.

There's definitely room for more inventory. A ton of companies would like to own whiskeydotcom but can't. Once they realize there are alternatives and they can rank just as well as the .com we'll start seeing some action. There is no timescale on this though. If you reg'd a bunch of premium .xyz and you think next year you'll be cashing in your in lala land.

How can .xyz have any value currently when most potential buyers don't even know the product exists? It's going to take time, maybe a lot of it, and there are some things that could happen in between that could derail the whole thing.

We're talking about a relatively low level investment with high risk but great potential upside. The losers are going to be the ones who reg'd massive amounts of two word, lll, llll, nnn, nnnn xyz. It's quite plausible that it could be 10 years until xyz are selling at decent prices across the board and it might never happen. Gonna take some deep pockets to maintain that kind of portfolio.

Are there going to be xyz dropping next year? Hell yeah! Loads of them. I will wonder why they were registered in the first place. Did the registrant really think they'd realize their potential value within the first year?

For the record I have 2 very nice one word .xyz that I bought for $xxxx on the aftermarket. I renewed both for 10 years and will forget about them for the time being. If it comes to it I'll let them both expire in a decade with no regrets.

 

[DNVantage]

.xyz is primarily used by spammers because of the cheap registration cost.

Suddenly started getting lot of spam from .xyz domains. Used to be .com, now it's .xyz, is that an indicator of popularity

 

[gilescoley]

Sure, why not? Wine.mx just sold for $25,001 USD! Just goes to show a good keyword left of of dot sells and right in many cases means nothing to an interested buyer.

How is this relevant to .xyz??? Its got nothing to do with these new extensions, its a well-established cctld versus a totally unknown and unproven extension

.MX is the Mexican extension and its all part of the Wine.com.br (Brazil) brand....Its a cctld and the owners have built a business on their local extension and obviously do business in Mexico as well, you cant compare a nice cctld sale with .xyz

Its like comparing an .xyz sale to the sale Poker.de for $957,937 USD, its comparing apples and elephants

 

[jedaprin]

wow thats some good info A+++

 

[Fancy.domains]

Nice, strike while the iron is hot, it wont last, it never does if you look at all the other extensions. I remember selling some .CO names when they were first released, then it just stopped.

I can just see the opposite. For me, it's obvious that the demand for .XYZ is growing and will for some time. This is an extension that the Chinese accepted almost right away. The domain market have partly changed (but COM is still king!).

Still, I respect your views and opinions. Time will show which one of us who had the most accurate prediction.

 

[gilescoley]

What makes you think suddenly this will change. If it was ever going to change, it would have with a extension that was 1 syllable and that made sense like .CO (Corp, Community, Computing, Corporation, etc)

.XYZ is really just a gimmick, and see how many serious companies buy them and then actually develop them into a useful site...dont fall for the hype that most domainers fall for, but if do, at least do it smartly and make sales like you are doing and don't get left with 200 names that end up dropping

Good luck @kohsamui