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I would've said it's a good reason to stop interfering in the Middle East but whatever... I don't want to start any stupid politics arguments. Everyone is entitled to their opinion so we'll just leave that there.

This time I think we got lucky, very, very lucky. It could've easily gone the other way and been disastrous. The idea that they're all homegrown makes the situation 10x worse IMHO.

"A plot to blow up planes in flight from the UK to the US... It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled in hand luggage on to as many as 10 aircraft." - BBC News

That's a lot of innocent people. Thank God they didn't succeed.
The world has seriously gone crazy though, what happened to peace? Now if you have a grudge you have to go round killing people? It's totally pointless.

PEACE

 
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B33R said:
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I would've said it's a good reason to stop interfering in the Middle East but whatever... I don't want to start any stupid politics arguments. Everyone is entitled to their opinion so we'll just leave that there.

This time I think we got lucky, very, very lucky. It could've easily gone the other way and been disastrous. The idea that they're all homegrown makes the situation 10x worse IMHO.

"A plot to blow up planes in flight from the UK to the US... It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled in hand luggage on to as many as 10 aircraft." - BBC News

That's a lot of innocent people. Thank God they didn't succeed.
The world has seriously gone crazy though, what happened to peace? Now if you have a grudge you have to go round killing people? It's totally pointless.

PEACE


I hear ya on the stupid,Pointless political BS that starts sometimes,,It's not my intention to even start that mess....interfering,Just being in the middle east at this point..i have mixed feelings about...But getting to relaxed wouldn't be a good thing either imo,I just thank God that Tony Blair and the United Kingdom were so prepared for this...And the terrorists have been brought to justice.
 
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just thank God that Tony Blair

John Prescott is actualy incharge at the moment as Blair is on holiday, does anyone now if blair got involved?

I find that terrorist tacitcs are cowardly and pathetic, why kill innocents just because they aren't muslims!
 
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Hopefully - they were all stopped ...

:( Sad to hear
 
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01wojtowicz said:
John Prescott is actualy incharge at the moment as Blair is on holiday, does anyone now if blair got involved?
AFAIK Tony Blair was told of a "general terrorist threat" and briefed the President on it but didn't know any specifics and is now away on holiday.

I think TB does deserve a holiday (probably) but to take one during not only this terrorist incident but the Israel/Lebanon crisis is just disgusting IMHO.

When his country and the world need him the most, he's gone to Barbados. :|

 
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[quoteI think TB does deserve a holiday (probably) but to take one during not only this terrorist incident but the Israel/Lebanon crisis is just disgusting IMHO.[/quote]

actually he delayed the holiday due to the lebannon thing and worked ahrd to try for a ceasefire, AND he was already away when the terrorist thing happened!
 
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Mark said:
Hopefully - they were all stopped ...

:( Sad to hear

according to the media...they captured all the suspects...I believe they said 19 were involved.
 
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Well I agree, glad this is stopped & now is a reason we have to do whatever it is we are doing in the Middle East.

But you see, if Bush didn't get his nose into the business of Sadaam and just went after Al'Queda and Bin Laden who were the terrorists behind Sept. 11, none of this would've happened.

The reason we are where we are is because Bush decided to go back in and fight his father's war looking for weapons of mass destruction that were not even there. There are no two ways about it, we would not be in this war if it wasn't for Bush and trying to finish his father's work.

Sadaam Hussein was somewhat dangerous, yes. But he was minding his own business. I'm not saying Sadaam was a good man, I'm not saying this at all because God only knows what that man did. However, Bush used that whole weapons of mass destruction to go in and take Sadaam out of power.

As of right now, Sadaam was nothing than a man who wanted to be the King of his country. A dictator, yes, but all he wanted was to be king. Now we are stuck in a war we cannot get out of until it is all finished with. I can tell you one thing right now, we will never be able to fully pull all of our troops from the Middle East. We are now there for the rest of time because of this.

Also, this war we are in is distracting us. Especially with this Israel/Lebanon issue. We have North Korea pointing nuclear bombs at us and we're doing nothing about it.

So I guess what I'm trying to get at is this: I do agree that terrorism is a big problem and that we have to see this war to the end now because of that and our (the U.S.'s) meddling. But half of these things would've never gone on if we only went after the people behind the Sept. 11 attack and not decide to try to invade the entire Middle East.

-RageD
 
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01wojtowicz said:
John Prescott is actualy incharge at the moment as Blair is on holiday, does anyone now if blair got involved!

Yes John Prescott was in charge during the raids but Tony Blair gave the go ahead for the raids. He had a video breifing before it went ahead.

Tony blair and George Bush were both aware of the situation for weeks. The gang were known about for over a year and they have been getting followed etc since before christmas. They probably chose to go ahead with the raids now as they beleived it was imminent of the terrorists plan to go ahead.

01wojtowicz said:
I find that terrorist tacitcs are cowardly and pathetic, why kill innocents just because they aren't muslims!

They are not killing people because they are not muslims, they are doing it to try and strike fear into people and trying to bring countries to their knees. Look at what happened in the 2nd world war, London was obliterated by German bombings obviously not intended for military targets. The exercise was to dishearten people and bring the country to a stand still.
 
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-X- said:
according to the media...they captured all the suspects...I believe they said 19 were involved.

Nope... they believe there are still 5 missing.
 
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TWM said:
Nope... they believe there are still 5 missing.

Yes that is correct, the US are claiming 5 suspects are still at large but the UK home office is refusing to comment.
 
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RageD said:
But you see, if Bush didn't get his nose into the business of Sadaam and just went after Al'Queda and Bin Laden who were the terrorists behind Sept. 11, none of this would've happened.

The reason we are where we are is because Bush decided to go back in and fight his father's war looking for weapons of mass destruction that were not even there. There are no two ways about it, we would not be in this war if it wasn't for Bush and trying to finish his father's work.

I'm staying out of politics, it is a no win situation on a forum - all that happens is that the political fanatics from both sides start quoting and hyperventilating until everyone else on the board wants to puke.

The only comment I have about your quote is that, well, terrorist acts occurred before Bush, and they will occur after him, as well. Acts of terrorism occurred before Clinton, and before the other Bush, and Reagan before him, as well. In fact, Iraq's neighbor kipnapped how many Americans back in the Carter years? And before Carter there was terrorism, even.

It is not possible to blame one party or one president for the ideologues that have overtaken certain aspects or niches of the muslim community.

Put blame where the blame lies: you blame the murderers for the crimes they commit. Osama isn't evil because we have one leader or the other in power. He is evil because he is a sick psychopath that relishes the thought of killing all those people who do not bow to his will.
 
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B33R said:
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This time I think we got lucky, very, very lucky. It could've easily gone the other way and been disastrous. The idea that they're all homegrown makes the situation 10x worse IMHO.

Luck? That's kind of insulting to MI5 ain't it.
 
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