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An Intro to Domain Name Investing

Spend your whole first month (at least!) reading about the domain name market... Understand why prices are the way they are. Look up current trends and attempt to extrapolate. Do not spend all your money starting out on a few good names. You'll probably end up getting ripped off and the whole domain experience will become sour for you. Keep thinking of ideas, researching new trends, areas of interest, and checking expired domain lists. Expired domains are domain names for which the domain name registration has lapsed. Lists of expired domain names can be obtained for free on sites which allow backordering.

Backordering is basically paying a company to acquire a name who's registration is about to lapse for you. Many people scan (look through) expired domain name lists daily and for this reason, there's alot of competition for domain names which are set to expire on any given day. A way to get an edge on the competition is to use a backordering company. Pool.com, Snapnames.com, and Namejet.com are currently the 3 largest domain name backordering companies. They have contracts with registrars (the companies who facilitate domain name registration) that entitle them to all domain names who's registration has lapsed at those registrars. They also own registrars of their own. They use the registrars they own as a means of attempting to catch (acquire) domain names for which none of the 3 parties mentioned above have exclusive contracts with. The whole process is quite complicated and well beyond this introductory lesson, however, what should be retained here, is that if Pool, Snapnames, or Namejet are interested in a domain name, they will almost always get it. It's always smart to backorder at all 3. That way, you're most likely to get the name you want provided you can afford it. When more than 1 person is interested in a domain name at these backordering companies, the company who manages to backorder the name sets up an auction with the winning party being the person willing to pony up the most cash for the name. Backordering is often very expensive and there are set fees (only if you are the winning party in the end) established by each backordering company which are well in excess of the fees you would pay if you were able to register the name yourself without employing them. For this reason, it's important to consider whether you think you need the help of a backordering company or not to acquire the domain name you're interested in. As a general rule, I don't backorder anything I don't feel is worth at least $100. This will vary from person to person, but when backordering a name often costs $30+ and once you factor the time and energy it will take to resell (more on this later) this name into the equation,...

Backorder or not, always remember to strive for the best names you can get for your money. It's not necessarily about spending your entire budget on 1 name, but it is about getting the best name you can get for every dollar you put in. If you can get a $100 for $10 or a $100 for $20, which would you choose? It sounds easy, but it does take a bit of practice when those domain names are represented by letters -- say, ZQVJ.com versus XKOX.com? This is all the more reason why I recommend everyone thoroughly research the market before investing heavily in it.

If you choose to go the hand reg route (registering names without backordering), only reg the very best ones you're able to find. Don't reg a ton of them at the beginning... Dabble in it a bit.. Try and sell these names. Are you able to sell them? Do you now have a reasonable grasp on the potential value a name has under usual circumstances? Take that knowledge you've acquired over your first month or two... Now, consider investing in a quality .com. Don't get suckered into spending x,xxx (shorthand for thousands) on a different tld (top level domain) or worse -- a cctld (country code top level domain [these are extensions for specific countries]). You're new -- you need things simple... And it doesn't get simpler than .com.. For those wondering what a tld and cctld is, I would ideally tell you it doesn't matter -- that all you should focus on right now is dotcom (.com), however since I know you're going to google it if I don't tell you... A TLD in it's common domainer meaning (screw Wikipedia!) is any sTLD or uTLD (I bet that cleared alot up!). sTLD's are domain name extensions which are sponsored by an independant organizations who monitor and impose rules to be followed by the registrants (the people like you who own a domain name in this domain name extension). Examples of sTLD's include .mobi and the soon to be released .asia. UTLD's or unsponsored top level domains, are domain name extensions which do not have sponsors. Examples of uTLD's include .com, .net, .info, and .biz. The main difference of importance is that there are generally no rules to follow (although certain names may perform better in certain uTLD's) when registering uTLD's. If you wish to build a website with a domain name in the .mobi extension ( an sTLD) in comparison, you would need to make it mobile compliant, as defined at www.ready.mobi. This most certainly sounded like gibberish to you if you really are a newcomer to domain name investing. No worries... Read it 10 times, then read it another 10. Investing in domain names really isn't a foot race... Make sure you thoroughly understand everything mentioned above before going forward. If you can't understand a certain point, search for an answer on Namepros or ask a question about it. There are plenty of friendly members willing to give every newcomer a helping hand. And never forget to stick with .com at first (I'll say this so many times you'll be sick -- but these really are words of wisdom).

When you make the next step up -- when you're considering investing in a good .com, ask yourself what's important to you. Do you need the revenue that could be generated from a parked name? Are you interested in finding a name which has a high ppc value and could easily be developed into a profitable site?

I bet I lost you once again! Revenue generated from a parked name you ask? But I thought I made money by selling names..." The world of domain name investing, it seems, is much more complicated than that! Parking domain names is a fundamental part of monetizing your domain names before you sell them. Domain name parking is to put it bluntly, loading your domain names with advertisements that pay you real greenbacks everytime someone clicks on one of the links or ads (before you ask, you're not allowed to click on your own and they can find out and close your account if you do). For a newcomer just starting out, I'd recommend creating a parking account with Sedo and Namedrive. There are better (higher paying) parking companies out there, however many of them are exclusive, requiring a certain amount of traffic (people visiting your domain names), revenue (people clicking on advertisements displayed on your domain names), a combination of both, or a set amount of domain names. Many of them also make you wait for several days before deciding whether to accept you into their program or not and may cut you off if you cannot maintain certain performance requirements. For this reason, I recommend sticking with Sedo and Namedrive until you gain further understanding and appreciation for the domain name monetization via parking sector. Experiment on Sedo and Namedrive with your names. Play around with the keywords with the goal of increasing your click through rate. Tools such as Wordtracker and Keyword Discovery can help you find terms which are frequently searched for and hence more likely to generate clicks. At this point in time, I wouldn't worry about how much money I was receiving per click.. You can worry about maximizing your earnings per click (EPC) once you've learned to maximize your click through rate (CTR). I won't discuss EPC further here. It requires alot of dedication to find the perfect balance between CTR and EPC and isn't something you need to worry about until your dealing with names earning you dollars daily, rather than the cents you'll likely earn at best on your first few names. Always remember that slow and steady wins the race! At some registrars, you'll be able to renew your domain name (and hence keep you domain registration from lapsing) for as low as 2 cents per day -- most registrar's annual fees amount to the equivalent of less than 3 cents per day. So if you can make 5, or 10 cents on your name each day, don't fret! Try and repeat that success over, and over, and over again.

Before regging a name... Ask yourself why you want/need this particular name. Think long and hard about it. Think of the best ways to monetize this name. Stay away from names with traffic stats being sold based on these traffic stats... Get a good .com that "sells" itself on it's own merit. Traffic stats can be easily forged (another concept we won't get into here.. I told you to stay away, so do otherwise at your own peril) and we really don't want to worry about all that this early in the game.

When it comes to making your first large investment, after having decided what you plan on doing with it (parking, developing, reselling, etc), try and figure out a ballpark figure of how much money you'll be able to generate off this name. It doesn't have to be exact -- it won't be exact. But having an idea of around how much you can make, is a good way to start planning for the future. My recommendation -- a LLL.com, a couple premium CVCV.com or a good dictionary word .com. Don't get fooled into paying exhorbitant prices for a name just because it's listed in a dictionary... Shop around. You'll be surprised at some of the deals available out there! Look at names listed on Sedo, Afternic, and other domain name exchanges. When looking at these exchanges, take the prices with a grain of salt. It's easy for anyone to ask $10k usd for a shoddy name. It's not what you ask for it... It's what you can get for it. Check resources such as NameBio and DnJournal. These provide a concrete sales history. Unlike Sedo, these are not asking prices -- these are what names have sold for in the past. You can use tools such as Estibot and Premium Domain (Domain Score) to compare a name to another one or attempt to guage the value of a name in question. Don't pay prices based on what these free services report. Rather, look at the value reported and attempt to understand why the automated program reported the value that it did. High prices reported by automated programs are no guarantee that your name is great -- but be extremely weary if the name you're paying xxxx+ for is reported as being worth reg fee (you get the idea) by Estibot, or non premium by Premium Domain. If it isn't premium or scores low on Estibot's valuation, ask yourself why that is. Is it something new that hasn't hit mainstreasm yet (think of wikis or blogs a few years back)? A low valuation does not necessarily imply that you're being ripped off, rather that you should proceed with caution.

Make sure to toss most of your profits back into additional names. Take some money out so that you can convince yourself and your significant other that this really is real. If you have deep pockets you may choose to now begin looking for a second high quality name (still sticking with .com at this point). If not, get your name monetized (however you choose to do it) asap so you can start saving towards your next name.

Use this downtime (if you're like most people) to further expand your knowledge of domaining. Read up on the latest trends (and always continue doing such...). These change fast, so don't think that what was hot 2 months ago is necessarily the real deal today.

Since you probably will have a few months before your name generates enough money to consider investing in another .com (and even if you have the funds to re-invest right now) , start learning about the other markets available to you. Since your money supply is likely limited, you won't be able to buy premium .coms week after week... You're likely still not ready to experiment with speculative extensions like .tv, .mobi, most cctlds, LLLL.com (not CVCV/VCVC), so don't go there. The biggest way a newbie can be burned is by getting into speculative extensions when they don't have the requisite knowledge and appreciation of domaining to truly grasp the liquidity of this market. Since your money supply is limited, you need names that are either liquid, generate a steady stream of income, or optimally, both. This means you should focus on .coms and premium .nets only, for the time being. As you gain more experience and a thorough understanding of the value of .coms and .nets (and hopefully a fatter bank account!), you can slowly move into markets that aren't as liquid. Start with .info... Good .infos aren't that hard to sell. Once you get the hang of waiting a bit longer for sales -- and having enough money that you can afford to wait on sales, you can start investing in speculative extensions. Rule #1 of investing... Never invest more than you can afford to lose. We can all agree that a LLL.com, premium 1 word generic .com, etc are solid investments, likely to go nowhere but through the stratosphere in years to come. The same cannot necessarily be said about speculative extensions.

Nobody really knows whether .mobi will become the mobile standard or whether .tv will become synonymous with online video. While LLLL.coms look promising today, they didn't look so promising 5 months ago when I plunked down $10k on 1500 of them.. These investments have an inherent risk that investing in the former (.com) does not have. I would never put more than 20% of my investment in a speculative extension -- it's just too much money to potentially lose -- not to mention the fact that speculative extensions can be a plague for anyone who doesn't understand the importance of spreading registrations throughout the year. Zero liquidity (or near zero) means that you end up selling your names at a loss (or under what you presume to be their market value), because you need the money. Don't fall into this trap. Don't invest more than you can afford -- especially if investing in speculative extensions.

Here's a few more tips to consider when entering domaining...

1. Length -- how long is your domain name? One word domains are usually easier to sell and sell for higher amounts than 2 word domains from the same sector.

2. Pronouncability -- Is it easy to pronounce, or is pronouncing the name really stretching it? Prounouncability leads right into...

3. Memorability -- how easy is it to remember this name? A memorable name is generally a non-hyphenated name, composed of 1 or 2 words which go well together. Stay away from numbers -- especially the use of numbers as letters (such as one and 1) to form words (a few exceptions here, including domain name related sites, such as this one which deal with topics commonly talked about using letters [eg. 4 letter domain names]). A memorable name probably has...

4. Brandability -- Could a company center a product or website around this name?

5. Grammatical Tense -- Use a tool, such as Wordtracker to ensure you use the right one. What seems like the most used tense to you may be different from how the rest of the world sees it. Also use Wordtracker to identify whether the term is more popular in it's plural or singular form.

6. USPTO.GOV is your friend -- remember that! Don't be a n00b and get into TM or typosquatting. You can make plenty of money in domaining without stooping to that level.

7. TLD/ccTLD -- What extension is it? I use a 1/10/30 rule for .com, .net, .info -- meaning that I first attempt to determine the approximate value of a .com, then, I associate approximately 10% of that value as a maximum value of the .net and then assign one third of the .net value (or 1/30 of the .com value) to the .info. I use these as maximum prices I would pay. So if I feel a particular .com is worth 100k, I wouldn't value the .info at more than around 3k in example. Seeing as I want to make a profit, I wouldn't consider going higher than 2.5k under such a scenario. As for offering... Most domainers are pretty reasonable to other domainers (i.e. dealing with another Namepros member). If I'm dealing with a individual who I'm not sure if they're a domainer or not, I'll typically start off by offering them 10% of the maximum I'd be willing to pay for their name (in the above case, that would be $250). If they know me and I know them, I'll usually start off around 40-50% of the maximum I'd be willing to pay. No matter what you offer on your first offer, people will generally figure that your first offer usually isn't your best offer (and usually it isn't), so keep this in mind when beginning negotiations -- leave room to negotiate.

8. Target Market -- Who exactly is going to buy your name? If it's a generic .com or LLL.com, okay, you need not worry. But what if it's not? Obviously the larger the target market, the better. A name like health.com is worth more than a name like healthstore.com for several reasons -- but 1 of they key reasons is because health.com has a bigger target market (as well as greatly increased traffic, but that's another matter). How many potential endusers would this name have?

9. Traffic -- The big T! No traffic, no money. Easy as that. If you're name receives no traffic whatsoever, the only way you'll be able to generate income is by selling it. This makes it a less attractive option than buying a name which receives plenty of free traffic even when it hasn't been developed.

10. Plan for the future -- Hedge your investments and hedge them well my friend! You can't predict the future, so prepare for it in advance. Use strategies such as diversification to minimize risk. If you plan on investing some of your money in speculative extensions, put at least three times that amount in solid .coms, so as to minimize the damage done should your investment in speculative extensions not pan out. Don't forget to spread out those renewal dates.

11. Keep coming back to Namepros. There's always new stuff to learn!
 
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If you're a noob you're well served to reading this thread over and over till you completely understand it.

Reece has really put it out there for you. I wish I had a guide like this when I started. But all good!

Doubt you'll get it so straight anywhere else. Cheers!
 
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chassmp3 said:
Anyways, I'm hungry for the knowledge guys!

1. start your own thread. (ask one of the mods to split this one if they are willing to)

2. Read more, write less. At least for a month.

3. Read all the guides / help / stickies on the forum before asking basic questions that have been asked and answered a 1000 times on these boards.
 
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awesome read for noobs... should be stickied
 
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Thanks guys :)

I'm glad everyone is liking it so far.. I'll get it stickied when I have enough NP$.
 
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Hi Producer007,

Thanks for your kind words :)

If you have the time, I'd definitely recommend going with a service like whypark. Another cheap alternative is to setup blogs on each of your domain names. Definitely cheaper to setup a couple wordpress blogs and see how good of a content writer/SEO superstar you are versus outlaying a pile of cash on something like whypark without any guarantees.

So starting out... I'd say park your names at Namedrive, and pick a couple to blog about. If you can get decent numbers, look into setting up Adsense or an affiliate program on them. Feel free to ask around here or send me a pm for help with that if you need it.

You can even try the blog concept without a domain name if you want. You can start with a freebie subdomain and try your luck. I started a blog on 4 letter domain names (overall, a pretty small niche compared to a blog about domain names in general) and I now get 100-200 visitors to my site daily.

It's all about differentiating yourself from the rest. There's easily 30+ domain name blogs out there and then there's forums like Namepros and resources like Namebio, DNSalePrice, DNJournal, etc. Targetting the domain name market as a whole isn't likely to be all that great of an idea at this point, clearly.. However, targetting a small segment as I have has led to constant daily readership.

What also helps when writing about a niche is that you can of course choose what to write about -- and should choose something you like and are good at. In my case, I'm fairly experienced buying, selling, and trading 4 letter .coms, whereas I'm not all that experienced with 2 letter .coms, 3 letter .coms, geo .coms, .nets, .org, etc. Indeed, I really don't know enough about domaining to compete with the industry superstars -- so I won't.

I'll stick to what I know -- and what I know better than them.

So maybe your niche is a particular college football team, maybe even a site about your progress in the domain name world -- just try and differentiate it from what's out there.

There's definitely alot more money to be made doing this than:

1) MFA (made for adsense) sites
2) Parking hand registered domain names
3) Developing websites when you don't know how to develop, can't afford to outsource, and don't have the time to learn.

producer007 said:
Wow, Wow Reece you are the CHOSEN ONE, what a write up? Thank you millions time over. This is a wonderful help to newbie’s like myself. One thing I am still having problems with is Parking or going for services such as whypark and domainembarking.com. For me self development is out of the question because I have no technical expertise or the funds. Can I please ask you to shine light on this? Thanks, you are my hero Reece and all of you contributors.
 
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Hi DotMeDomains,

I'm very much against parking and often don't even bother parking many of the domains I own. So selling + developing are the way to go! :)

I do alot more selling than developing currently, although I'm hoping to change that in the near future. Development is costly not only financially, but also in terms of time (hours that could have been used selling domains).

Hands down the most profitable is development if you have a really good idea... Facebook alone is probably worth more than every domainer on here's domains combined!

I've been working on my first major development for the past 4 months now. Site design is easy, it's the content which really takes alot of time to come up with. Plenty of great webmasters in developing countries can be outsourced for $5-$10/hour, but it takes more than good looks for a site to really take off. Hiring (good) content writers is extremely expensive and most domainers (who aren't necessarily good content writers) are stuck doing this themselves -- probably explains why we see so few developed domains.

We need not look further than the domain industry to see some very successful companies that were once "little guys" like us: Sedo, Afternic, Godaddy, or how about eBay?

The odds are stacked against anyone trying to replicate that level of success, but one thing I can say for certain is that a heck of alot more people have become millionaires from developed sites than from parking revenue.

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Great stuff! I'd have to say even before reading your post here, I felt I'm on the same page as you as... even if I am still a fairly new domainer myself.

Thanks for the great read. I'm adding your blog to my bookmark of course.

My question is, how do you feel about 3 things a domainer can do with his/her domains? Parking, Selling immediately and Developing...

Which ones do you do? What are the pros and cons of each? And which are more profitable in the long run?

I'm developing 3 domains at the moment but I'm also looking to sell them immediately for an attracive price if there are takers...

Many thanks again.
 
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Who is your target market?

Reece made excellent points and the article was easy to follow. I would like to add an opinion to his guide as it has influence on how you sell (or should).

I happen to be the CIO of a software company and am managing the 100+- domains my Exec team feels they would like to have on a given day. It also happens that I like buying and selling my own domains of course. So what's the point?
1. Do you see the disparity between what a company wants, can afford to buy and what it needs?
2. Do you, as a seller, have something that is priced appropriately for a company which may or may not be in the 'space' the domain occupies?
3. Do you have something that conveys value beyond the name? (in my experience this is rare, we usually just pick up a domain)

Here are some recent examples I have dealt with on the 'company as a buyer' side.


EX 1:
1. The head of Automotive has an interesting idea to compliment the gianourmous parts site we run. He finds a name (randomly searching...no specific site used) and asks me to get hold of it.
2. I go about using every auction site, tool, (this site of course), to find out what I can. Ultimately we end up having to make an official blind offer through something like Sedo.
3. Seller responds that it is a 2 for 1 sale and that the price on the one we want is lower, but the total is the same.

Take a moment and think about what I just said. I'll do simple (not real) numbers to explain:
1. Site we want lists for $1,500. It's short-ish, it involves cars (so we have need and it fits in our expertise), it's for sale on Sedo.
2. Exec wants site. We bid. Response is: Site X is now $750 but you have to buy Site Y for $750 as well.

Error of the ways
This is where you as the seller just went off into the ditch.

3. Exec says 'f that'. Technically we should have walked away. Thankfully for the seller (who I will compliment, was very professional and communicative with me) worked with us. The company wanted X, not X and Y. It took a while for the Exec team to talk about the value. Ultimately the head of Automotive wanted the X domain so much we bought both.

4. Guess what site Y is doing? Nothing. At all. It was a sunk cost.


EX 2:
We bought a company a year ago and picked up the primary domain as an asset.
1. As a for-sale-by-itself domain, the name sucked. It was looooong and it was very very specific. It had two words and those words literally fit a grandtotal of maybe 4 currently operating companies. Looking bad right?
2. I am told to off load the domain as we haven't done anything with it.
3. I contact the one company I know would actually be interested. My CEO tells me to start at (I'm going to say more than $10K because it was higher and that's an argument I don't want to cover here).
4. The person I speak with actually tells me he feels like he's being sold a car.

Error of the ways
You as a seller (and I know better) should never get to this point. Know your market, know your customer, know your limit. Don't do what I just described to you.

5. So...we come to an arrangement. Needless to say the domain sold for <$1,000.
6. CEO is happy as a clam. Asset has been sold.

EX 3:
1. We have a fairly large patent portfolio. Where there be patents, there be Trademarks. Reece said it, I will say it again. Don't F@(@ with the trademarks.
2. I am more aggresive about this because I am the guy who calls you, the domainer, and explains which of our Six (yes I said 6) law firms will be taking your house away. This is not a joke.
3. We as a company spend a lot of money and time on our IP, Brand, name, etc. My CEO is constantly asking me who is out there that is even close to what we are doing. In a few cases the 'violator' didn't really know and everything was resolved nicely.
4. In one ongoing case we are contesting a domain.
5. In another case someone opened a company in another state, got rolling, put their name out there and immediately ceased to exist when our lawyers found out. Why? Because they never bothered to check the uspto.gov site. (though really a simple Google search would have done...)

Error of the ways
Are you paying attention? You should when doing this. My personal domains take this into account.

I do in fact have one that contains a trademarked name owned by Sprint. The short version is, Sprint's head Trademark lawyer and I had an excellent and very polite conversation about the domain, what I was going to do with it, etc.

Key point: I wrote him an email clearly stating that at no time was I trying to make money off of Sprint or the trademark and that they could have the domain at any time for the cost of the registration. I keep the lawyer's response handy just in case........


Final Note
1. I'm not the best domainer because I buy and hold.
2. I buy what I like and what is interesting to me based on my job and the industries I know.
3. I trend spot, so some may be good, some I'm sure are useless.
4. I am skewed by the knowledge of how companies buy their domains...from a mega corp view and a smaller company standpoint.

Apologies if any of this is off tangent of Reece's original train.
 
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A HUGE thank-you Reece! Your intro to domaining has helped me immensely. I used Estibot to check 2 of my domains - one that I was wanting to sell, and my serious blog one for comparison even though I'm not planning on selling it. I didn't get hung up on the actual amounts, like you mentioned, but taking your advice I did try to look at WHY it came up with these numbers. To my surprise, the domain I wanted to sell had a very low value estimated event though the domain name is more snappy and generic, whereas my serious blog had a much higher value estimated even though it's a slightly longer name in a more niche area. Both are .coms. Again, not getting hung up on actual Estibot values, I saw quickly that the reason WHY the big disparity, was the decent level of traffic to my serious blog site. The other domain is partly developed, but not on anything that would garner traffic (just some cute humorous pics I put up for fun).

Well, your intro to domaining totally turned around my thinking on the domain I wanted to sell! A quick look at AdWords made me realize I could try to garner some of the traffic in one of the keywords of the domain name. It has high search traffic in one of the keywords, with low competition. Before, I was disappointed that this domain might not sell. Now, I'm excited to have a potential source of ongoing revenue that I can tap.

I've completely stripped out my old content, which wasn't that much stuff anyway, and (since I used to do a lot of freelance writing) I quickly put together some posts aimed around various keywords and put up some Adsense ads on the posts. I'll continue to do this until I have a sort of collection of posts on that domain and see if I manage to bring in anything in terms of revenue. If I can leave it up as a revenue-generating site that pays for itself, I might be just as happy that way, as opposed to trying to sell it! This wouldn't be the same approach as my serious blog which is a more time-consuming, Pinterest-friendly endeavor - but this new approach with the other domain will be fun and exciting in a totally different way!

Thanks Reece and others! I am learning so much here already that I can apply directly in a practical way. So grateful to all of you.
 
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The biggest way a newbie can be burned is by getting into speculative extensions when they don't have the requisite knowledge and appreciation of domaining to truly grasp the liquidity of this market.

This original post is over 8 years old, but some of the things OP says are extremely true.

A good read for anyone to get some perspective on domaining today.
 
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Reece was last seen 2011 as per profile....
Correct. Our old friend and former mod @-REECE- hasn't logged in for several years, however, I'm glad this thread has been bumped up again.

It's an outstanding read for beginners and pros alike.
The entire thread contains hints and tips from some pretty big players when they were just starting out, so take some time and look through the entire thread.
It is a little like a time machine and you'll be able to spot who hit the mark and who didn't.

Enjoy and learn. This is what NP is and always was about.

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Would have repped you, but seems that NP considers that I am fond of you.

You've put much work in this guide and every minute was worth it.

Keep up the good work
 
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Great read, and a perfect take on the automated appraisal services. I wish everyone would see it your way...it is exactly as I intended my service to be used. An additional tool to help in the decision-making process, as one step of many.
 
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Wow, great guide for anyone domaining, not just the new comers! Thanks
 
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Spade said:
NameBio happens to be run by a NamePro's Moderator. =)

Spade, love your site, like it a lot better than that other one.

Only one complaint... can you PLEASE update .co.in sales?

If you want I have a verified (sedo etc) list.
 
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I'm pretty new...

and I found this to be very interesting. I've paid for books with less real content. More emphasis on buying names with big potential for resale than I'd originally contemplated. My idea was more parking and then slowly building them out myself, but I'm intrigued by the chase. Good stuff. I don't really see a spell checker on this box so you might have to forgive me... :)
 
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Great stuff! I'd have to say even before reading your post here, I felt I'm on the same page as you as... even if I am still a fairly new domainer myself.

Thanks for the great read. I'm adding your blog to my bookmark of course.

My question is, how do you feel about 3 things a domainer can do with his/her domains? Parking, Selling immediately and Developing...

Which ones do you do? What are the pros and cons of each? And which are more profitable in the long run?

I'm developing 3 domains at the moment but I'm also looking to sell them immediately for an attracive price if there are takers...

Many thanks again.
 
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Thanks for the great article. Domain names are like real estate. I can imagine if you have some premium domains, you can call yourself a landlord.
 
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Hi Wakeh......being a newbie and initially seduced by GoDaddy, I registered a .co.uk and luckily found out before anymore purchases that GoDaddy won't let you list them in an auction. (Unless I'm mistaken here)
Where did you sell your .co.uk mate?

Gareth.

Hi Gareth,

I was approached for all of my .co.uk sales, so I can't say I've had that trouble.

With GoDaddy your domains will be locked for around 6 months, I managed to get around that by doing a domain transfer via nominet.... I don't know if GoDaddy will tell me off but it's been around 6 months since the sale.

Thanks
 
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one of the best guides. so do you think its worth getting LLLL.net ? or a LNL/LLN/NNL .org
 
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Thanks Lpzx :) I do think there is potential with premium LLLL.nets, especially VCVC.nets. I did a scan a couple days back.. There are some VCVC.nets left here. It's not strictly a VCVC.net list, but you should be able to find some amid the other nice LLLL.nets like VVVC.net, VCVV.net, etc.

I'd stay away from LNL/LLN/NNL.org.

All the best!

likepeas said:
one of the best guides. so do you think its worth getting LLLL.net ? or a LNL/LLN/NNL .org
 
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WOW what a nice article! I am going to have to bookmark this
 
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You omitted DnSalePrice. It's the largest and most accurate source for domain sales history by a very wide margin. And run by a NP member. ;)

Cheers,
BidNo
 
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I have now fully read it and think 100% that it needs to be stickied.
 
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