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An Epik Statement on Racism and Injustice

Located in The Break Room, started by Rob Monster, Jun 12, 2020

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  1. Silentptnr

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    I agree with the statement, but I am not sure I agree with the perspective. There are racists out there that believe they are educated, smart racists. They believe they are better than uneducated racists. They believe uneducated racists give them a bad name. Can you believe that? :ROFL:
     
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  2. Silentptnr

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    Here's a question for the smart people...

    How long would a statue of Hitler last in Jerusalem?

    Get it?
     
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    When I disprove official stories about Apollos and 9/11, it bothers some people. I don't mean, NP, I mean a higher power. NP is affected indirectly. I mean this is how I interpret this thing. I have no objection.
    Moon landing was faked, but maybe by good people. 9/11 is pure conspiracy done by evil people. And they are antiTrump, although they are from the same party (actually their party is irrelevant, they are in both parties, and Europe, and elsewhere).
     
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  4. Samer

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    I don't get it...

    Samer
     
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  5. topdom

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    zio=nazi. people are forced to believe they are opposite things. and this is another taboo. but you can find many references easily.
     
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  6. Compassion

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    Sounds like the thought police has the Internet tentacled with AI now.
     
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  7. ThatNameGuy

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    I refuse to be intimidated by you or anyone else. I guess you read the book "Winning through Intimidation" by Robert Winger. Racism in America is rare like Will Smith said. And to take a few isolated incidents and try to convince others how bad our society is, IS SIMPLY WRONG, not to mention incredulous:xf.frown:
     
  8. Silentptnr

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    I am very blessed and do not believe society is bad. But it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that a celebrity of his stature might have a different perspective than an average person.
     
  9. Silentptnr

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    If you call this light conversation intimidation, God help us.
     
  10. ThatNameGuy

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    There you go again comparing the Holocaust and Genocide to Slavery and Racism:xf.frown: I don't know how you get off on that, but you are sadly misinformed.
     
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    For some reason, all I could think of while reading this was the barbershop scene from Grand Torino.

    Not an incredible movie, but there are some great lessons to be learned from it.
     
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  12. Silentptnr

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    You mentioned you are some percentage Jewish. I didn't.
     
  13. Silentptnr

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    See
     
  14. ThatNameGuy

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    Besides intimidation I see where diversion is also one of your tactics. Yes I said I'm 1/4 Jewish and proud of it. When I learned while visiting the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC in 2003 that I too would have been put to death by Hitler and his thugs, that shed a new light my heritage. My point about your comment, "How long would a statue of Hitler last in Jerusalem?" shows me how little you know about humanity unless of course you're anti-Semite.

    Just a couple more points I want to make regarding this whole topic....I mentioned earlier I was born in Washington DC in 1947, and with my Jewish grandfather Benjamin Goldstein became a die hard Washington Redskin football fan. Later after Pop Pop passed I was fortunate to have season tickets to Redskin football, and not once in the 40+ years I was a fan did i hear anything about the name "Redskin" being derogatory and offensive to the American Indian. I, like everyone else I knew, felt it was a compliment to be referred to as a "Redskin" fan. However, the one thing they can never take away from me is the FACT they won three Super Bowls while T/A the Redskins. Although I'm guessing some crackpot left wing liberal will want to strip them of their Super Bowl trophies because they won them under a name that is supposedly offensive to "a few" American Indians.

    Moving on, I just heard today that in addition to the American National Anthem being played/sung at NFL football games the Black National Anthem will also be played/sung:xf.rolleyes: Do you have any idea how divisive that is???? So now we're to have a White National Anthem and a Black National Anthem....very sad:xf.frown:

    The last thing I'll say is there was a time I thought I could have partnered with you in some capacity in the domain industry, but now that I've gotten to know who you really are, you couldn't pay me enough to be your partner despite my having initially sought you out.

    This is the end of my conversation with you....your agenda is to always have the last word so have at it with me knowing your true colors:xf.wink:
     
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  15. NameDeck

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    Never knew there was one. And agree, that is divisive. If people take issue with the national anthem why not rewrite/write a new one that includes people of all race? A national anthem should unite, not divide.

    I checked out the lyrics real quick though, nice anthem.
     
  16. tldboss

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    I think Silent is right. The deliberate killing of a large group of people is part of (Holocaust , Genocide , Slavery , Racism). There are mass graves because of slavery and racism. Let us not down play any one of those evils, holocaust was evil, slavery was evil.
     
  17. ThatNameGuy

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    tldboss...i'm sorry, but you don't understand history, slavery and emancipation. You said, "The deliberate killing of a large group of people is a part of (Holocaust, Genocide, Slavery, Racism)." Facts show that very few blacks/slaves were killed during the civil war in the United States, and the blacks who were killed were actually soldiers who fought for either the Confederate or Union Armies. All toll approximately 300,000 white confederate soldiers died, 400,000 union soldiers died and 30,000 black soldiers (not slaves) were either killed or died (disease etc.) during the Civil War.

    Unlike the Holocaust, there was no "deliberate killing" of blacks by either the North or the South. Why? Because the South wanted to keep the slaves they bought (WRONG) to do the work they paid for them to do, and the North wanted to FREE/EMANCIPATE the slaves.

    While Slavery was and still is horrific, it doesn't compare to Genocide and the Holocaust. Do you understand the difference? Slaves in America were indentured servants, most of who believed they were under contract to work for their masters.

    Today, the 4th of July is in recognition of the day in 1776 we declared our independence from Great Britain aka England. Sadly slavery and the civil war that resulted freed the slaves is part of our history too:xf.frown: Blacks, Whites, Indians, Asians, Women, Disabled, LBGTQ and all people in America are created equal and should not be discriminated. Do we have room for improvement in America? Sure we do, and I promise to do my part to make America and this world a better place.
     
  18. Silentptnr

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    Diversion? Now you've moved over to Redskins. I'm very focused. It's what makes me successful. I'm not all over the map. Football tickets, etc.

    I'm here to talk about Epiks statement on racism. That's it. Not Jewish people, not Redskins football seats, not anything other than Epik's statement on racism and how I think it was BS.

    You quoted Will Smith. I didn't. I'm a seasoned businessman. I'm not upset or angry. I'm just direct. Not intimidating, I don't divert. I'm laser focused on why I believe racism is a problem that requires a firm response from good non-racist people.

    I've never had problems with law enforcement. I've never had problems with racists. But I'm smart enough and old enough to not say things like racism is rare.

    I will say this, I do believe racist people are a shrinking minority. But to say racism is rare is not accurate when said by you or Will Smith. :)
     
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  19. Silentptnr

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    That is a twisted perspective.

    Here's the basic fact...
    Between 10 and 15 million Africans were forcibly transported across the Atlantic between 1500 and 1900. But this figure grossly understates the actual number of Africans enslaved, killed, or displaced as a result of the slave trade. At least 2 million Africans--10 to 15 percent--died during the infamous "Middle Passage" across the Atlantic. Another 15 to 30 percent died during the march to or confinement along the coast. Altogether, for every 100 slaves who reached the New World, another 40 had died in Africa or during the Middle Passage.

    @ThatNameGuy Learn...
    http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtid=2&psid=446
     
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  20. Silentptnr

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    @ThatNameGuy Learn...

    DEATH TOLL FROM THE SLAVE TRADE
    THE AFRICAN HOLOCAUST

    60 MILLION DEAD AT THE HANDS
    OF WHITE CHRISTIAN IMPERIALISM

    No one knows the exact number of slaves who died in the New World. Yet in American Holocaust (1992), David Stannard estimates that some 30 to 60 million Africans died while being enslaved. He claims a 50% mortality rate among new slaves while being gathered and stored in Africa, a 10% mortality among the survivors while crossing the ocean, and another 50% mortality rate in the first "seasoning" phase of slave labor.

    http://www.worldfuturefund.org/Reports/Slavedeathtoll/slaverydeathtoll.html
     
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  21. Silentptnr

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    Where the heck are you getting your information?
     
  22. TestCase

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    SERIOUSLY?!?!? :banghead: :inpain:

    Please provide your source and proof.
     
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  23. ThatNameGuy

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    I misspoke when i said that most slaves were "indentured servants", but your questioning my vernacular helped to educate me on the difference between indentured servitude and slavery.

    That said however, the statistics I quoted about actual blacks who died in the civil war can be verified by numerous sources. Horrific as it sounds, southern slave owners didn't want any of their collateral assets to die for they felt they owned them, and to insinuate that 60 Million slaves were killed by "White Christian Imperialism" is as divisive and disingenuous as it gets. Simply Google;
    "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" and you'll see what I mean. Then speaking of lies, damned lies and statistics, how many incidents similar to the George Floyd killing at the hands of a rogue cop happen in America every day? Every week? Every Month? Every Year?. And this isn't to say the killing of George Floyd is/was racially motivated. It's been said that George and the cop who killed him worked as security guards together at the same night club in Minneapolis. No doubt the cop hated George Floyd, but to say it was because Floyd was black is purely subjective/opinion.

    Finally, this is my final word on this subject on this thread. I mentioned earlier, as a business guy who has started dozens of businesses and employed hundreds of people I would have advised Rob Monster the founder and CEO of Epik not to have started this thread. Rob is a pretty smart business guy, but that doesn't mean he's right...he makes mistakes like we ALL do every day of our lives.

    God Bless America(y)

     
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  24. Silentptnr

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    :banghead:
     
  25. NameSmart.co

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    Great statement Rob. Appreciate your initiative. You are setting a great example in this industry. Warm Regards. All the best.
     

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