.com 6N sales report

TargetNames · Jan 20, 2016

Hello all,

For several months, I have been recording 6N sales from Asian auctions. I now have enough data (thousands of sales) to offer some perspective on the 6N market and general trends. Because the market is so liquid (and large), I have segmented the data into specific "pattern" types which have a large enough sample size to be meaningful.

Please note that there are other threads for showcasing your domains and discussing 6N in general terms. In this thread, I will highlight and discuss only 6N.coms sold at auction (live bids and confirmed buyers) on Asian platforms. I will use this thread to focus on specific pattern sales with short commentary. Hopefully, this will help buyers and sellers in pricing and bidding.

Please note:

1. I have not captured every sale, but am confident I have recorded "most".

2. I make no warranty as to the accuracy of the final sales price as I am relying on the auction sites and the sales reporting site Chaomi.

3. There is a lot of data and almost impossible to capture all. For perspective, the pattern I will analyze today has almost 80 recorded sales in the last 7 days. How many of this pattern were published on Namebio in the last 7 days? The answer is 0. Feel free to add sales that I may have missed or from lesser known auction sites.

4. Sales are in Chinese yuan (CNY)- Conversion guide (changes daily, so not precise):

2000 CNY- $304
2250 CNY- $342
2500 CNY- $380
2750 CNY- $418
3000 CNY- $456
3500 CNY- $532
4000 CNY- $608

Today's 6N pattern analysis: The interior, non-eight "triple" repeating digit (no 0,4).
Pattern type example: x111xx, xx111x

6N with interior triple number 1

381113 2000
311193 2300
281115 2200
511183 2200
711126 2200
571115 2300
711196 2200
511186 2900
151118 2700
811138 3000
811131 2700
511172 2399
291116 2300
611131 2600
311176 2200
211181 2700
911131 2700
811156 2400
311193 2400
611169 2600
711126 2200

Comment: 21 sales, average: 2438 CNY ($371), Low 2000 High 3000 (bookend 8), x111x1 ave: 2675 CNY ($407)

6N with interior triple number 2

762225 2200
722239 2200
892223 2200
722219 2100
322217 2200
522262 2700
822285 3000
572225 2400
822232 2700
322238 2800
892223 2400
522295 2400
322218 2300
622279 2200
122298 2600

Comment: 15 sales, average: 2427 CNY ($369), Low 2100 high 3000 (81118x), x222x2: 2700 ($410)

6N with interior triple number 3

863339 2700
733372 2400
893337 2300
713339 2200
633325 2400
213337 2200
233386 2100
633312 2100
233396 2200
323338 3000
583335 3400
633325 2100

Comment: 12 sales, average: 2425 CNY ($369), Low 2100 High 3400 (3,5,8 harmonious)

6N with interior triple number 5

815553 2100
375551 2100
755537 2300
855596 2100
855536 2400
855529 2300
895556 2500
855582 2900
955528 3200
685552 2700
375551 2488

Comment: 11 sales, average: 2463 CNY ($374), Low 2100 High 3200

6N with interior triple number 6

766617 2400
266635 2400
566673 2600
816665 3000
766612 2400
366625 2400
766681 2500
566639 2400
566698 4700

Comment: 9 sales, average: 2756 CNY ($419), Median: 2529 CNY ($385) Low 2400 High 4700
Triple 6 usually gets higher prices and recent data continues that trend.

6N with interior triple number 7

377725 2100
897775 2400
377781 2100
827775 2300
837776 2300
187771 2400
377725 2100

Comment: 7 sales, average: 2243 CNY ($341) Low 2100 High 2400. Smaller data set this week but similar to past data. Triple 7 is usually a little less than most other numbers but still good!

6N with interior triple number 9

799958 3300
199956 2700
359996 2600
379993 2400
399973 2500
369991 2500
899953 2500
729992 2900
369992 2500
699973 2500
799971 2900
179992 2400
199932 2500

Comment: 13 sales, average: 2631 CNY ($400) Low 2400 High 3300 (8 end). The number 9 is always strong and this data confirms.

Summary: Remember, this is one week. There are hundreds of data points for each triple over the last few months. This pattern bottomed in early-mid December at 1400-1600 CNY on low end. The last two weeks show increasing price.

I will analyze the next pattern in a day or two.

B&J · Feb 10, 2016

1john2004 said:
What about
6N with interior triple number 8 ?

Thank you!

TargetNames · Feb 11, 2016

^
Thanks for the 888 stats from Namebio.

Pattern sales last two days:

868836 2888
722256 2998
233668 3800
733356 2998
355572 2880
762221 2888
277712 2888
233395 2998
887196 3899
811992 2300
626363 2700

Triple interior non-8 are selling for over $400 (converted from CNY) now. There is only one domain on this list under $400 converted.

Volume is low.

I sense many investors are "holding" their best patterns (myself included).

The average domain without 0,4 is hovering in the $250 area.

akkocs · Feb 11, 2016

@TargetNames , thank you for all the information you are sharing with us, much appreciated.
I wonder if you have any observation about 6N.com with exterior pairs incl. number 4 with a combination of 54 or 84 or just with the number 4 like:
335584
779942

thanks

joro001 · Feb 11, 2016

Great job as ever OP.
Worth mentioning that 888885.com just sold in China for 200,000 RMB - approx $30,000.
As good a name as it gets in 6n and if you ask me a very good buy even at $30k.

mirul · Feb 11, 2016

joro001 said:
Great job as ever OP.
Worth mentioning that 888885.com just sold in China for 200,000 RMB - approx $30,000.

Woww

B&J · Feb 11, 2016

akkocs said:
@TargetNames , thank you for all the information you are sharing with us, much appreciated.
I wonder if you have any observation about 6N.com with exterior pairs incl. number 4 with a combination of 54 or 84 or just with the number 4 like:
335584
779942

thanks

Here is the answer: http://dnpric.es/?q=(6)+pattern:{N:1}{N:1}{N:2}{N:2}{N:2}+4

Domain name Date Price Broker
444442.com June 2014 $ 151.00 USD GoDaddy
994442.com December 2015 $ 51.00 USD GoDaddy auction
884444.net November 2015 $ 42.00 USD GoDaddy auction
332224.com August 2015 $ 30.00 USD GoDaddy auction
779994.com August 2015 $ 30.00 USD GoDaddy auction
996664.com August 2015 $ 30.00 USD GoDaddy auction
553334.com October 2015 $ 17.00 USD GoDaddy auction
664446.com July 2014 $ 17.00 USD GoDaddy
884448.com July 2014 $ 17.00 USD GoDaddy
004440.com July 2014 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy
224442.com July 2014 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy
334443.com July 2014 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy
446664.com July 2014 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy
448884.com July 2014 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy
554445.com July 2014 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy
Total price amount in this set of 15 domain name sales is 457.00 USD; average price is 30.47 USD.

akkocs · Feb 11, 2016

thanks @B&J
some additional figures from your database:
885584.com December 2015 $ 250.00 USD GoDaddy auction
335584.com November 2015 $ 129.00 USD Pheenix

B&J · Feb 11, 2016

akkocs said:
thanks @B&J
some additional figures from your database:
885584.com December 2015 $ 250.00 USD GoDaddy auction
335584.com November 2015 $ 129.00 USD Pheenix

There are actually more. My original link referred to pattern search AABBB, while the question was about AABB and then having 4 in position 5 and 6. Free pattern search supports only four first characters.

This will give all those with 4 in the 6th position:
http://dnpric.es/?q=(6)+pattern:{N:1}{N:1}{N:2}{N:2}+4.

As to "4" in the position 5, this is the right syntax, but one needs a premium account at DNPric.es: """ (6) pattern:{N:1}{N:1}{N:2}{N:2}4 """
Sharing here if you are interested:
444442.com Jun-14 $ 151.00 USD GoDaddy
225545.com Dec-15 $ 120.00 USD GoDaddy auction
550047.com Feb-16 $ 107.00 USD GoDaddy
668849.com Jan-16 $ 101.00 USD GoDaddy auction
888844.cc Nov-15 $ 99.00 USD Pheenix
999940.com May-14 $ 85.00 USD GoDaddy
111144.cc Nov-15 $ 59.00 USD Pheenix
115544.cc Nov-15 $ 59.00 USD Pheenix
222244.cc Nov-15 $ 59.00 USD Pheenix
335544.cc Nov-15 $ 59.00 USD Pheenix
336644.cc Nov-15 $ 59.00 USD Pheenix
338844.cc Nov-15 $ 59.00 USD Pheenix
441144.cc Nov-15 $ 59.00 USD Pheenix
777744.cc Nov-15 $ 59.00 USD Pheenix
778844.cc Nov-15 $ 59.00 USD Pheenix
886644.cc Nov-15 $ 59.00 USD Pheenix
995544.cc Nov-15 $ 59.00 USD Pheenix
996644.cc Nov-15 $ 59.00 USD Pheenix
998844.cc Nov-15 $ 59.00 USD Pheenix
999944.cc Nov-15 $ 59.00 USD Pheenix
994442.com Dec-15 $ 51.00 USD GoDaddy auction
442241.com Jan-16 $ 48.00 USD GoDaddy auction
884444.net Nov-15 $ 42.00 USD GoDaddy auction
665540.com Sep-15 $ 24.00 USD GoDaddy auction
667749.com Sep-15 $ 20.00 USD GoDaddy auction
111140.com Dec-13 $ 17.00 USD GoDaddy
664446.com Jul-14 $ 17.00 USD GoDaddy
884448.com Jul-14 $ 17.00 USD GoDaddy
001142.com Dec-15 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy auction
004440.com Jul-14 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy
224442.com Jul-14 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy
334443.com Jul-14 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy
442240.com Jan-16 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy auction
554445.com Jul-14 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy
556645.com Jul-14 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy
888847.net Oct-15 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy auction
222249.com Mar-14 $ 10.00 USD GoDaddy
777740.com Dec-13 $ 10.00 USD GoDaddy

B&J · Feb 11, 2016

akkocs said:
thanks @B&J
some additional figures from your database:
885584.com December 2015 $ 250.00 USD GoDaddy auction
335584.com November 2015 $ 129.00 USD Pheenix

But correctly so, if you are looking for AABB54.com and AABB84.com sales, you can check these with two queries:

http://dnpric.es/?q=(6)+pattern:{N:1}{N:1}{N:2}{N:2}+54.
666654.com June 2014 $ 136.00 USD GoDaddy

http://dnpric.es/?q=(6)+pattern:{N:1}{N:1}{N:2}{N:2}+84.
885584.com December 2015 $ 250.00 USD GoDaddy auction
335584.com November 2015 $ 129.00 USD Pheenix
448884.com July 2014 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy

B&J · Feb 11, 2016

B&J said:
But correctly so, if you are looking for AABB54.com and AABB84.com sales, you can check these with two queries:

http://dnpric.es/?q=(6)+pattern:{N:1}{N:1}{N:2}{N:2}+54.
666654.com June 2014 $ 136.00 USD GoDaddy

http://dnpric.es/?q=(6)+pattern:{N:1}{N:1}{N:2}{N:2}+84.
885584.com December 2015 $ 250.00 USD GoDaddy auction
335584.com November 2015 $ 129.00 USD Pheenix
448884.com July 2014 $ 12.00 USD GoDaddy

Please mind, Forum Software removes the trailing dots in the end of the URL. These are essential.

campout · Feb 12, 2016

Great thread -- any observation on the bottom of the barrel pricing for 6N.com?

TargetNames · Feb 12, 2016

akkocs said:
@TargetNames , thank you for all the information you are sharing with us, much appreciated.
I wonder if you have any observation about 6N.com with exterior pairs incl. number 4 with a combination of 54 or 84 or just with the number 4 like:
335584
779942

thanks

Though I look at sales almost every day that include 0,4 I do not record data for these 6N. There are some days where over 3000 domains of this type are auctioned. I simply don't have the time. However, my opinion is that 4s are penalised, no matter what number precedes it, unless it is an obvious rare pattern, like 123456, etc. When I look at domains with 4, in my mind I substitute the 4 with a premium number and estimate its worth without 4. Usually, the domain with 4 is "discounted" by about 75%.

An example from today: 332443 Two pairs with an exterior pair (33). If you substitute 4 with 5, its a $275-300 domain minimum. With 4, it sold for 290 CNY ($44!)

Though I understand that 54 and 84 and 541, etc. are theoretically positive and, in my opinion, there is a bit of a synthetic "wall" of value related to 4, the ultimate arbiter of value is the 6n market, and there is plenty of data to suggest that 6N domains with 4 are deeply discounted, and can only be rescued by a premium series (1234) or a bunch of 8s.

TargetNames · Feb 12, 2016

Nat Hunt said:
Great thread -- any observation on the bottom of the barrel pricing for 6N.com?

Nat,

The bottom auction price that I could find last week was 90 CNY; this week I have seen a low of 130 CNY (about $20). However, there is no way I can look at every auction.

Hope this helps

Jim Holleran · Feb 12, 2016

TargetNames said:
Though I look at sales almost every day that include 0,4 I do not record data for these 6N. There are some days where over 3000 domains of this type are auctioned. I simply don't have the time. However, my opinion is that 4s are penalised, no matter what number precedes it, unless it is an obvious rare pattern, like 123456, etc. When I look at domains with 4, in my mind I substitute the 4 with a premium number and estimate its worth without 4. Usually, the domain with 4 is "discounted" by about 75%.

An example from today: 332443 Two pairs with an exterior pair (33). If you substitute 4 with 5, its a $275-300 domain minimum. With 4, it sold for 290 CNY ($44!)

Though I understand that 54 and 84 and 541, etc. are theoretically positive and, in my opinion, there is a bit of a synthetic "wall" of value related to 4, the ultimate arbiter of value is the 6n market, and there is plenty of data to suggest that 6N domains with 4 are deeply discounted, and can only be rescued by a premium series (1234) or a bunch of 8s.

It depends on the patterns. I sold these names 2 weeks ago on namejet:

339914.com-$119
928810.com-$101

The reason why the "4" sold more is because of 2 double repeating, "33 99", the chinese understand that, I understand that because I sold off 800 6n.com's, but so many people need to really look at patterns instead of the numbers

Thanks for your research, your doing an amazing job, and educating people here on Namepros.

TargetNames · Feb 12, 2016

Jim Holleran said:
It depends on the patterns. I sold these names 2 weeks ago on namejet:

339914.com-$119
928810.com-$101

The reason why the "4" sold more is because of 2 double repeating, "33 99", the chinese understand that, I understand that because I sold off 800 6n.com's, but so many people need to really look at patterns instead of the numbers

Thanks for your research, your doing an amazing job, and educating people here on Namepros.

You are absolutely right. It depends on the pattern. The first domain is probably a $400 domain with a premium end but $119 is still a great ROI. The second is more subtle, as "zero" is the weak number (perceptually) but I am seeing increased acceptance and value of "0" recently.

For example, yesterday 139001 sold for 2999 ($450). More of these sales are popping up and I may do an analysis of 0 by position if a find an extra 20 hours or so.

FM · Feb 12, 2016

I am curious as to whether this will change in the upcoming months. I agree that 4s are not good, but it also does seem that the 44, 84, 48 is not bad. The market, as of now, is indeed discounting them. However, I wonder if it is in part that much of this is domain investor driven, and there is a "fear the four" mentality without understanding the complexities associated with numerology, or if it is because the premium numbers in 6n.com are still relatively cheap. Either way. For those picking up any 6n.com at 20-30 dollars, it is tough to think you will take a loss on those, even with 0s or 4s.

TargetNames said:
Though I look at sales almost every day that include 0,4 I do not record data for these 6N. There are some days where over 3000 domains of this type are auctioned. I simply don't have the time. However, my opinion is that 4s are penalised, no matter what number precedes it, unless it is an obvious rare pattern, like 123456, etc. When I look at domains with 4, in my mind I substitute the 4 with a premium number and estimate its worth without 4. Usually, the domain with 4 is "discounted" by about 75%.

An example from today: 332443 Two pairs with an exterior pair (33). If you substitute 4 with 5, its a $275-300 domain minimum. With 4, it sold for 290 CNY ($44!)

Though I understand that 54 and 84 and 541, etc. are theoretically positive and, in my opinion, there is a bit of a synthetic "wall" of value related to 4, the ultimate arbiter of value is the 6n market, and there is plenty of data to suggest that 6N domains with 4 are deeply discounted, and can only be rescued by a premium series (1234) or a bunch of 8s.

TargetNames · Feb 12, 2016

FM said:
I am curious as to whether this will change in the upcoming months. I agree that 4s are not good, but it also does seem that the 44, 84, 48 is not bad. The market, as of now, is indeed discounting them. However, I wonder if it is in part that much of this is domain investor driven, and there is a "fear the four" mentality without understanding the complexities associated with numerology, or if it is because the premium numbers in 6n.com are still relatively cheap. Either way. For those picking up any 6n.com at 20-30 dollars, it is tough to think you will take a loss on those, even with 0s or 4s.

Rationally, I agree with you. From my experience in the 5N market, which goes back a few years, I believe the number 4 is being discounted more than at any time I can remember and this is driven, partly, by the way sales are reported which segregates 0,4. But it doesn't matter what I think when I offer a domain like 88x44x and I get no offers at $xxx. And, even if market perception becomes more positive, upside is probably capped.

FM · Feb 12, 2016

^I guess it is then important to know what one gets a 0,4 pattern for. Again, ROI, if you can pick them up cheap, then even if it is 75-80 dollars in a few months, we are talking doubling one's money within a year. Unless they are so undesirable to other investors or end users that the market bottom just falls out for 6n.coms with a 0 or 4. I am not a high level active 6n.com buyer, but I have some, and would buy a bit more at such low prices. The 6n.com market is speculative, and the 0, 4 patterns are even more so. But the difference seems to be that the speculation is at the low end. Considering we all resister hundreds and for some, thousands of hand reg domains (at 10 dollars a piece), most of which (according to what we see on the board), are a waste of ten dollars, investing in any 6n.com would not be the worst decision an investor could make.

TERADOMAIN · Feb 12, 2016

Hi,

Portfolio of (100) 6N.com sold for $2851 yesterday on Flippa. All with 0 and 4. No pattern at all.

Thanks

FM · Feb 12, 2016

I saw that as well. So, 100 domains (one can imagine given a large bulk sale, that will be one of the lowest cost per domain prices), and no patterns at all, and 28.5 dollars a domain. That is just over 2x registration fee. Given the numeric market, I see no way that that person is going to lose their investment, and if they time it well, can make much more from that portfolio by piecing it out carefully over time.

4pm · Feb 13, 2016

speaking of patterns... they indeed look to be more important than 8s
here's 2015-16 reported above $3K sales:

556655.com 20,550 USD2015-12-20SnapNames
259999.com 15,100 USD2015-11-17NameJet
330000.com 10,250 USD2015-11-04GoDaddy
888527.com 10,099 USD2016-01-06GoDaddy
999666.com 10,000 USD2015-06-11Sedo
567567.com 9,352 USD 2015-06-19 DropCatch
315888.com 8,101 USD 2016-01-02 GoDaddy
597888.com 7,500 USD 2015-09-14 NameJet
576888.com 7,300 USD 2015-09-14 NameJet
116116.com 6,994 USD 2015-11-11 4.CN
919191.com 6,950 USD 2016-01-19 DropCatch
633888.com 6,050 USD 2015-10-11 SnapNames
438888.com 6,000 USD 2015-11-17 NameJet
551188.com 4,800 USD 2015-05-31 NameJet
888867.com 4,700 USD 2015-11-19 NameJet
888515.com 4,550 USD 2015-09-09 DropCatch
666635.com 4,103 USD 2015-10-28 NameJet
888733.com 4,044 USD 2016-02-02 Sedo
888662.com 4,035 USD 2015-12-12 NameJet
784888.com 4,029 USD 2015-11-15 Pheenix
885858.com 3,588 USD 2015-07-25 NameJet
323456.com 3,553 USD 2016-01-06 GoDaddy
221666.com 3,520 USD 2015-10-30 NameJet
359988.com 3,500 USD 2015-10-24 DropCatch
000001.com 3,500 USD 2015-03-11 NameJet
315688.com 3,420 USD 2015-11-05 GoDaddy
998777.com 3,400 USD 2016-01-25 NameJet
557766.com 3,200 USD 2015-06-26 NameJet
342222.com 3,163 USD 2015-12-17 4.CN
860888.com 3,101 USD 2015-03-28 NameJet
188899.com 3,100 USD 2015-12-31 NameJet
871871.com 3,100 USD 2015-11-02 NameJet
767999.com 3,027 USD 2016-02-04 GoDaddy
262266.com 3,011 USD 2015-11-24 GoDaddy
599997.com 3,010 USD 2015-10-31 NameJet

17 out of 35 has no 8s
4 out of top 5 has no 8s
...

TargetNames · Feb 13, 2016

Today's trading:

Volume remains light with "only" 244 completed sales (no 0,4) in the last three days.

Though pattern sales are few, some attractive domains have been offered.

The sale of 888885 the other day for CNY 200,000 set a new bar for chinese auctions since I have been recording sales. A stupendous domain and of such rare quality that we don't see more than few like this per year in a public transaction.

Two palindromes:

286682 3088
872278 3000

A repeating pattern:

178585 3888

Triple 1's:

711156 3166
511163 2999

*For those that carefully read the OP on interior triple repeating patterns, you will notice that sales have moved into a new price zone. Sales are consistently in the 3000 CNY range now ($459).

The power of one number

I noticed an interesting group of sales on Namebio from Namejet that highlights how important a change in one number can be:

998806 $160
998826 $1,300 (2 instead of zero)
998825 $800 (5 instead of 6)

9988 is surely a top exterior double pattern, but is 998826 really $500 better than $998825? This is the variation that can happen in auctions and, as previously mentioned, why I always like to see a meaningful sample size when assessing price. Nevertheless, this type of "exterior" pattern type increased more than any other type presented in this thread, but don't expect this level with, say, 3311xx. 9988 and 8899 are elite.

DGMDomains · Feb 14, 2016

joro001 said:
Great job as ever OP.
Worth mentioning that 888885.com just sold in China for 200,000 RMB - approx $30,000.
As good a name as it gets in 6n and if you ask me a very good buy even at $30k.

Very nice. Do you know which marketplace the numeric sold on?

joro001 · Feb 14, 2016

DGMDomains said:
Very nice. Do you know which marketplace the numeric sold on?

I'm not sure to be honest.
I just saw it reported on chaomi.cc.

TargetNames · Feb 17, 2016

Average sale without 0,4: 1700 CNY ($260)

Pattern sales from today and yesterday:

683881 2888
123932 3888
995252 5888
573355 3288
831765 2188 Listed to point out that some "random " domains are getting extra interest
993138 2688
177337 2500
236662 3100
567992 2000
556515 1900
718171 2100
296968 1700
311227 2500
953877 1900
198981 2300
655775 2900
511229 2600
116177 2500
117199 2400

Some domains with 0 for today:

081880 999
570909 1000
008555 8888 (top sale of day)
010388 3999
589500 688
118600 800
581500 688
527800 666
127100 628
286700 638
636500 660
929600 650
287200 638
830868 2000 50 bids
032623 230 68 bids

*6N with zero are trading higher in the last few weeks. 00 beginnings and endings are standing out.

Couple of nice 7N:

7818181 500
8988838 1700

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