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The best way to find out if BR or BB are a good playform to sell your domains, approach them as an end user and see how quickly they respond, how hard they try to sell you a domain, and whether or not they are professional.
I found the post where BR states that their sell through is higher than BB's 4% annualized for that month
So let me get this straight.
1) The owner of BRoot made a comment on a domaining forum and claimed that the sell through rate for his marketplace is 4%. The context of the comment is the owner is trying to persuade BBucket sellers to switch to his marketplace. That's the data report?
2) Meanwhile, BBucket sends out a nationwide press release and gives actual numbers for its revenue and sales for 2015. This information is picked up and published in industry blogs in which BBucket specifies the exact number of domains it sold in 2015. No other marketplace has ever released such data or shown such transparency. Sources: TLD, DNgeek, and DomainName.
If you disagree please give me the links to the sales data published by BRoot and other brandable market places.
I'd like the data on how many names the owner of BR has too please.
Or they choose based on their interpretation of quality or what is most likely to sell.They flip a coin.
I hope they never go down the same route as BR where you have to pay to be featured on top of their listing fees.
Or they choose based on their interpretation of quality or what is most likely to sell.
I hope they never go down the same route as BR where you have to pay to be featured on top of their listing fees.
I would say BB because they show professionalism. I submitted many domains to BR and I never received even a rejection email. I reached out to their rep her and never received replies too so professionalism is for me 90% of a company's image and success.
I stopped wasting my time with them after so many times of not replying. I am happy to submit 100 domains and get them rejected but to completely ignore someone even through PMs on NP is well.... you know.
Thank you. Something is wrong with them I am sure cause such behavior is an acceptable in any business.I'm sorry to hear about your BrandRoot experience, and thank you for sharing so they can now gain a greater understanding of some concerns. This is not to say they don't know it already, but feedback is feedback.
I would just hate for you to only have NamePros as a place for your rejects. I hope you list them with other marketplaces. It's a shame when people are offended to a point of believing there are no other enduser brandable marketplace options besides BrandBucket or NamePros.
NamePros is a great marketplace that I love as a reseller, but it is not my market for brandable endusers, unless of course they are brandbucket approved. I, for one can no longer in good conscious, submit my domains for brandbucket approval simply to allow those reduced to one brandable marketplace further blindly invest into marketplace listing fee's.
IMO, BrandBucket has a major policy issue that needs to be addressed. Size of Marketplace Vs Size of Free Listing Fees. BrandRoot's marketplace is still of manageable size, and it appears they are making steps to grow at a respectable rate in commensurate with their initial investors domain purchases and listing fee's.
This is my point, and concern.It's all very misleading...
the BrandRoot Mob (who are not members of BrandBucket) spend all of their time in this thread badmouthing BrandBucket instead of in their own thread posting all of their sales.
Something smells fishy to me...
This is my point, and concern.
An old fisherman saying, Those who fish, usually come home smelling like fish. IMO, the brandroot mob, as you call it, are people tired of watching a favored system take advantage of new investors who buy into the fact that a brandable domain is worth marketplace annual sales rate X suggested bb value. I say favored because, to me, and others, it doesn't seem like it's currently a fair system.
Maybe, there's more to it, but the way I see it, BrandRoot sells brandbucket rejected domains for X,XXX all the time. Those who have BR accounts, can easily buy BB reject domains for under market value, if they feel the domain is brandable, and list them with BR if approved.
Some are trying to inform the community, while others try to hype markets up. IMO, we all have something to gain, and some, not all, shouldn't throw rocks when standing inside a glass house... Remember why the three little pigs didn't build their house out of glass? They know, there's always a big bad wolf potentially hiding around the corner waiting to huff, puff, and blow the house down. Sticks and straw don't make for a sturdy house. A sturdy house, or brick, should be able to withstand any huffs or puffs from any big bad wolf.
I would like to know this too if it hasnt been already mentioned.I'd like the data on how many names the owner of BR has too please.
Just out of curiosity, even though I already know , why is BB unfair compared to BR ?
They are making strides for better exclusive marketplace standards. I have heard, though, still waiting for clarification @Brandroot:
1) Pays your renewals if you join their loyalty program
2) They have a logo designer / seller program that gives discount listing fee's of $5 + no back end logo fee.
The logo designer part, do you mean if I apply as a logo designer for them I will receive discounts with my listings?
I'm glad you asked. I don't have exact clarification on this either. I have some graphic designer friends (students) who are would like to build their professional portfolio through brandable domains. What better PR is it for a young desinger's career to have a start up internet company using their original logo both on BR and when / if it sells and the buyer decides to use the logo?
@Brandroot - can you comment on this please. Thank you.
Thanks @Grilled, I've also heard from others that BR has pretty short review times these days however, according to the owner, he has 250 applications that he hasn't responded to. BR should clean that up. That's not fair to domainers, especially newbies. A lot of people have soured on BR because of that. It's unfortunate.
Brandroot is run by a little kid in his basement. The owner is a total a*hole and actually called NP users a lotta choice words (anyone recall the Namepros Nancies rant??). He's VERY immature, and I refuse to work with him ever again.
I'm also aware that the thread is a bit old, and things change with time. But BR isn't a company. It's a lone guy working in his free time. He isn't just the face of the "company" -- he IS the "company." I've worked with him once, and he called me every bad word imaginable... even after I stuck up & defended BR many times in the past before then. He may have apologized, but I've still no respect for him. And I'll never do business with him again.
My experience with BR has been positive so far.
While it is not very convenient to add names with 10 max daily limit and the site had couple of glitches along the way, the big advantage over BB is:
d) there is no possible/deemed conflict of interest with owner/manager/ambassador/etc getting better info, logos, placement etc.
How do you know about d)? He keeps his whois private doesn't he and he has never to my knowledge shared how many domains he owns and has listed, even though he does have names listed as he has referred to it here.
The lack of average domain sale price at BR suggests I'm better off at BB.
Who knows more about BrandRoot paying your renewal fees? Doesn't this say, thanks for trying, we're sorry we didn't sell your domain in it's first year with BrandRoot.. Allow us to pay your renewal fee to compensate you for your initial listing fee? Does anyone have experience with this new policy? If so, please share.
I stopped wasting my time with them after so many times of not replying. I am happy to submit 100 domains and get them rejected but to completely ignore someone even through PMs on NP is well.... you know.
They are making strides for better exclusive marketplace standards. I have heard, though, still waiting for clarification @Brandroot:
1) Pays your renewals if you join their loyalty program
2) They have a logo designer / seller program that gives discount listing fee's of $5 + no back end logo fee.
To BR people
Do you even let users receive emails when they submit domains to you?
To your first comment, we now have a bulk domain upload option for special account holders. Contact me if you would like me to review your account for this setup. To your comment on d)... This is essentially why we have held back from taking on any "ambassadors".
I had strong urge to dislike your post but then I consulted with my position:D
Just out of curiosity, even though I already know , why is BB unfair compared to BR ?
They are making strides for better exclusive marketplace standards. I have heard, though, still waiting for clarification @Brandroot:
1) Pays your renewals if you join their loyalty program
2) They have a logo designer / seller program that gives discount listing fee's of $5 + no back end logo fee.
We are no longer offering this incentive at this time because of the lack of interest/need. The response to this was mostly negative and we deemed it not worth the time to develop. We are however working on other incentives for our sellers, like Brandlytics and a NameScore assigned to each name that determines it's placement in our search results. We want to soon do away with the newest to oldest sorting method. Instead we will be rewarding names that receive real traffic, inquiries, offers, visits, favorites, etc.
1) We do not have this program
2) We are extremely picky on who we accept as logo designers and currently we are not taking on any others as we do not have a current need, but yes logo designers pay only $5 for listing fees. For the same reason that we are not taking on too many sellers, we are not taking on too many designers. We want the few designers that we have to be very successful as opposed to countless designers making a sell every now and then.
Yup. I am waiting for the answer too. The answer is very very important here, especially if it is a positive one .
Hi Keith, I understand your concern. We have reviewed many of these applicants but we are still not caught up. We cannot take on more sellers than we can handle. We have been steadily expanding but we also need to think in the best interest of sellers who have stuck with us from the beginning. The more we add on too quickly the more saturated our marketplace.
For the record, this is a disgruntled former Brandroot seller who broke our sellers agreement. We never once used inappropriate language with him and actually gave him one warning before he broke another rule and we were forced to remove him from our platform. It's not that you refuse to work with us, we refuse to work with you.
We are an LLC operating with 2 employees out of Hawaii and have several independent contractors that we pay monthly. I (Michael Rader) primarily manage sales and the overall operation of the company. We also have two PHD holders (one of which you may have met at Namescon with myself) who work directly with us as investors/consultants. We are very much a company.
Please share screenshots of the "every bad word imaginable" that I called you. I don't ever speak this way.
To your first comment, we now have a bulk domain upload option for special account holders. Contact me if you would like me to review your account for this setup. To your comment on d)... This is essentially why we have held back from taking on any "ambassadors".
None of my personal domains are WHOIS private. I have less than 920 names published at Brandroot, 12 of which I have sold this year (2016) so far. Our average sale price hovers around $2,000. BB's is going to be higher because they have a couple of sales in the $XXX,XXX range, whereas we do not.
We are no longer offering this incentive at this time because of the lack of interest/need. The response to this was mostly negative and we deemed it not worth the time to develop. We are however working on other incentives for our sellers, like Brandlytics and a NameScore assigned to each name that determines it's placement in our search results. We want to soon do away with the newest to oldest sorting method. Instead we will be rewarding names that receive real traffic, inquiries, offers, visits, favorites, etc.
Do you have an account with Brandroot?
1) We do not have this program
2) We are extremely picky on who we accept as logo designers and currently we are not taking on any others as we do not have a current need, but yes logo designers pay only $5 for listing fees. For the same reason that we are not taking on too many sellers, we are not taking on too many designers. We want the few designers that we have to be very successful as opposed to countless designers making a sell every now and then.
If I understand the questions correctly, yes all of our sellers receive emails notifying them of accepted or rejected names. They get an email for every step of the publication process.
BB to clarify? I thought we were about BR?I don't know if it is anymore. Some could argue, that BR has a smaller portfolio size, better logos, better descriptions, better search results, but as of right now, I really don't know the answer because BB is the original exclusive brandable marketplace with more sales by volume. I'll run some audits, and come back with a more accurate answer. In the mean time, hopefully others can chime in.
I'm sorry to hear the response wasn't positive.
Thank you for the clarification.
It appears I was wrong. I had thought BR had an easier domainer / designer program.
I heard that BB designers were given the option to take $5 upfront for the logo, and $0 logo reward. Or, they had an option to take $0 up front, and opt to receive the $100 - $500 logo award if the domain sells. I'm still waiting for BB to clarify on this.
Hi Keith, I understand your concern. We have reviewed many of these applicants but we are still not caught up. We cannot take on more sellers than we can handle. We have been steadily expanding but we also need to think in the best interest of sellers who have stuck with us from the beginning. The more we add on too quickly the more saturated our marketplace.
Thanks for replying but I uave never received any email from you...EVER.
More than one year I sent names to you and I even told you about this more months through PM here , which you never replied. Before three or four days I again submitted names using an email I have never used and so far I received nothing evwn though I submitted to BB pn the same day and time and yesterday BB sent me some as rejected and some as accepted.
Dont know what is wrong with the system but it appears to just mark every email that is used to submiy and never sends out any password. I evwn tried password reset and it says no such email on system then I try to submit using the same email and it tells me this email already exists.
This is the first time I talked about this publicly cause I wanted people to see that all is not good in BR.
Now plz, what are you going to say about this?
my email is tayodomains at gmail and also aaa at abdullahadam and also aaabdillahi at gmail (this one i used before four days).