discuss After latest large new gTLD domain sale, I have renewed my whole .live portfolio until 2025...

tonyk2000 said:

Would be interesting to find out what (if any) gtlds except .cn and .com.cn Chinese endusers (not domainers) really prefer...

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I believe it was orally mentioned in the Afternic/GD keynote at NamesCon that .app had high relative levels of interest in China. Now that Afternic have an office there, we may get more detailed picture at the next NamesCon. In terms of registrations overall about 35% of .app registered in China.
Bob

+ .top/.vip/.cc

Looks like quite the culling on this topic by the mods.

I just wanted to re-quote the OP to get us back on track.

lolwarrior said:

....and I am not bragging about it Still lot of CASH left as profit. Kudos to new gTLDs, love them!!!

Your opinions? Are you renewing your names years in advance as well? Do you believe in your names, be it .com or new gTLDs? If so, share some exaples.

Just wanted to share with some new gTLD lovers here

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It was mentioned somewhere on this topic that the OP might be talking about a .live sale other than his own.

From what I can make of it he is saying he is not bragging so it probably refers to one of his sales.

To re-iterate my take on this is he probably had a sale, only issue being the size of the sale. We know that depending on where one is from, or how successful one is, that there are dramatically different opinions on what constitutes a sale significant enough to brag about. (or in his case as stated not brag about)

I happen to know that the OP is considering a little cull of his own on some of his domains, I'm just surprised that he picked the .live extension to be the one he supports until 2025. Personally I would have picked differently but maybe one sale changed his mind. The problem is that one sale does not add legitimacy to the entire .live portfolio.

I am back from holiday now and was kind of surprised how this is trending all over the Namepros!

I am yet about to read all the comments in detail, but to confirm, sale was mine of course. Thanks to everyone who mentioned how you yourself guys are renewing your domains, that is very interested read! In my opinion if you have great domains you should really lock-in predicatable prices, particularly when pricing for some extensions is very favourable at some time periods (aka : renewal promotions)

It is not only .live portfolio I have renewed until 2025 (except 1 domain name players / live, as kindly notified by @MapleDots , thank you!!!- I need to transfer that one to west / xyz, by mistake forgot about that one completely). I also yesterday renewed part of my .life portfolio until 2025 as well, domains like alien.life, moon.life, meta.life, etc...if you do not understand why, please read what Bob wrote again and again, I would not write that better. FYI, my personal aim is not to sell domain like alien.life in 2019 for 5k to another domainer just to be left with empty hands in future. That is why I have very defensive pricing for my best domain names. New gTLDs are names of future, and what you sell today for 5k, might go much more expensive in future. At least this is what I truly believe in and act accordingly.

I mean to sell today new gTLDs for few thousands is the same as if you would sell btc in 2013, and doubled your profit. All your fellow investors would tap you at back and admire you maybe.....but who from them would know what the pricing of btc in 2019 would become?

So my domain friends, if you want some of my best names, do not expect they will drop any time soon and you can catch them, it is not gonna happen - if you want them, YOU NEED TO PAY MONEY to lolwarrior
Once again, no drop-catching from me - this is why I renew in advance!

After above witty remark, fust few additional remarks:

@Bob Hawkes got it 100% right in my opinion, I personally agree with everything he wrote, as my logic seems to work in the same mode

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@MapleDots I really like you - you are a witty Canadian and I love that, but I respectfully disagree with almost everything you wrote about new gTLDs and renewing domain in advance in this thread. I believe it is better to stay with .ca for you, where you have an unparallel knowledge - I have read many of your posts, and you rule there. Just imo. Btw, Czechoslovakia ? Lol

@hawkeye and @BaileyUK - our posts are windows to our soul....yours were meawhile deleted ...but guys, make sure you do not lead an unhappy.life ....by bringing.love to others, you yourself will live in a blessed.world...

^ help us all out and let us know what the sale was

lolwarrior said:

@MapleDots I really like you - you are a witty Canadian and I love that, but I respectfully disagree with almost everything you wrote about new gTLDs and renewing domain in advance in this thread. I believe it is better to stay with .ca for you, where you have an unparallel knowledge - I have read many of your posts, and you rule there. Just imo. Btw, Czechoslovakia ? Lol

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HeHe

Dry wit and humour works a lot of the time

Let me try my hands at it

I said Czechoslovakia to lighten the mood to take some of the heat off of you




























Now you might notice it does try to obscure the truth a bit

Be ready for the identity verification at west.xyz (to upload your documents).
Or your domains will be blocked.

Well what with ICANN considering another 1,000 Ntld's. These threads are only going to get funnier. Laughter is always the best medicine for any ailment. So yep I'm looking forward to some real giggles

I had to let most of my .ninja domains lapse. I'm a big fan of them--I mean, who doesn't want a .ninja domain?--but I haven't had time to develop them as I had planned, and the renewal fees were too expensive to warrant retaining them. I've kept some, and I've gotten some low- to mid-three figure offers, but I wouldn't break even. I never really expected them to make much money, but I figured I'd give it a shot.

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I had to let most of my .ninja domains lapse. I'm a big fan of them--I mean, who doesn't want a .ninja domain?--but I haven't had time to develop them as I had planned, and the renewal fees were too expensive to warrant retaining them. I've kept some, and I've gotten some low- to mid-three figure offers, but I wouldn't break even. I never really expected them to make much money, but I figured I'd give it a shot.

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Were you coding.ninja Paul?

equity78 said:

Were you coding.ninja Paul?

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Definitely wasn't mine; I was too late to the game. I've got a maybe three or four gems, but most were pretty mediocre compared to that.

They make for great server names, though!

Just to be clear, the topic of this thread is:

After latest large new gTLD domain sale, I have renewed my whole .live portfolio until 2025....

....and I am not bragging about it Still lot of CASH left as profit. Kudos to new gTLDs, love them!!!

Your opinions? Are you renewing your names years in advance as well? Do you believe in your names, be it .com or new gTLDs? If so, share some exaples.

Just wanted to share with some new gTLD lovers here

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Example topics this thread does not cover:

• lolwarrior
• lolwarrior's company
• lolwarrior's experience
• lolwarrior's inexperience
• lolwarrior's intentions
• Why you are a better domainer than lolwarrior
• Why you are a better domainer than anyone defending lolwarrior
• Why you are a better domainer than anyone not insulting lolwarrior
• What lolwarrior ate for breakfast

This isn't up for debate.

Paul:

When someone makes a post claiming to have made a sale, there are inevitably people who come along and state that they don't believe him, that he didn't make the sale.

When someone posts verifiably that he made a certain sale, invariably some come along and say that the domain wasn't worth that much, or, on the other end of the equation, that he sold it too cheaply.

When someone makes a post about any concept or practice regarding anything at all, invariably both the underlying proposal will be debated, as well as sometimes the qualifications of the speaker to offer the concept or practice.

I agree that a lot of the topics you mention

Example topics this thread does not cover:

• lolwarrior
• lolwarrior's company
• lolwarrior's experience
• lolwarrior's inexperience
• lolwarrior's intentions
• Why you are a better domainer than lolwarrior
• Why you are a better domainer than anyone defending lolwarrior
• Why you are a better domainer than anyone not insulting lolwarrior
• What lolwarrior ate for breakfast

This isn't up for debate.

are not up for debate, but then there are also fine lines involved with a few of the barriers you mention. If we believe that someone is hyping, we're not allowed to comment on it? If someone has zero documented sales, and is offering the holy grail solution to increased sales, we're not allowed to mention that the speaker has no verified sales? If someone states that he has paid out all of his domains for six years and looking over his WhoIs we find that this is not true, we can't mention it? If someone comes along and claims to be selling like gangbusters but was begging money from us via DM to pay for renewal fees very recently, we can't comment on where those renewal fees probably came from? I think some of these issues revolve around decency versus black letter guidelines over what should and should not be discussed.

At the end of the day, isn't this a business website? Is the end goal to allow all content to pass unfiltered and uncriticized or to direct people to the best possible results, within the context of inevitable differences of opinion.

As your own moderator has said

Kenny said:

take everything you read in this thread with a grain of salt.
Some members know what they are talking about, some don't, but everyone has an opinion, and it shouldn't take you very long to figure out who knows and who blows..

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so are to leave this "figuring out" of who knows and who blows to unwritten thoughts, or to public debate?

Again, the spirit of what you are getting at is commendable, and makes sense. But in practice, if we were to anesthetize threads to the full extent of what you are implying, there would simply be one post, and the topic immediately closed with no further comment. I suppose you could leave the like and dislike buttons up, but that's about all that we could do without violating any of the barriers you mention.

I think some of us have gone a little too far with criticism in this thread. But we could also go too far in the other direction, and simply make a directive that no matter what anyone says must be accepted at face value. That isn't what you'd want, I hope, either.

@xynames, your behavior later in this thread was inexcusably unprofessional. As I have explained to others via DM, as a community, you have lost the privilege to guide the direction of this thread on your own. While I would like to think a group of seasoned professionals could communicate and debate constructively without resorting to dismissive comments, we've very clearly demonstrated that we are not capable of doing so here.

I am quite disappointed in the direction this thread has taken. It's a real shame; there is a significant amount of quality content and debate mixed in.

Anything to do with lolwarrior is now off-topic for this thread.

Paul: We defer to your guidance.

Just offering some thoughts, is all.

By the way, as long as the above few posts remain visible I think it’s proper to post in here what I said so that it’s not left to imagination:

Paul Buonopane said:

Bob just keeps saying the same thing and offering his imaginary numbers and incorrectly calculated projections. You know - I hadn’t realized before how pointless it is trying to reason with him but underneath those thousand word treatises of his that seem to be placating is the same stubbornness and opinionation you find in any of us.

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This is further discussed here
https://www.namepros.com/threads/topic-of-a-thread.1137940/#post-7246095

There are 3 key members in this topic, let me say what I admire in all three.

xynames: he is very knowledgeable and is prepared to shares his experience with other members. If one reads the facts in his posts one can quickly see why he has achieved pro status in such a short period of time.

Bob Hawkes: He is a gentle soul who will think long and hard before ever using the dislike button. He shares his time freely and is a shining example of how to produce posts in a non confrontive way and make all members feel welcome.

nameless member who cannot be mentioned: I see someone who is trying very hard to get his foot into the door for a business that is no longer friendly to a newcomer. He has the ability to take criticism and produce a measured response all the while trying to inject a bit of humor.

Now I don't agree with everything the above members say, but I think there is a lot there to be admired if you look for it.

Personally when I look at this topic, I see a lot of good intentions from older members trying to guide a newer member.

I think there is super good content here if we take our time and read past the flared tempers.

MapleDots: I did participate here, so it ok to talk about myself ?
I don't think I was a key member in this topic but I saw pro and cons in all three members posts which is probably the same I would say about my own posts after taking the time to re-read them.



@Paul Buonopane - my apologies in advance if I hit a grey area on your rule, I will not take offense if you decide to delete this post.

Jurgen Wolf said:

Donuts will increase fees in September...
From this POV, it is not a bad idea to renew in advance... if you are not able to catch those names for promofee.

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@Jurgen Wolf
What extentions has Donuts ?
How much will the extensions rise ?
Where did you get ths information ?

Domainstore said:

Where did you get this information ?

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https://donuts.domains/

You may find some info there

Domainstore said:

@Jurgen Wolf
What extentions has Donuts ?
How much will the extensions rise ?
Where did you get ths information ?

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This from DNWire provides some information.
https://domainnamewire.com/2019/04/02/donuts-to-increase-domain-prices-in-october/

Note that it is October not September.
Donuts have 241 TLDs of which 220 will increase in price generally from 6 to 9%. You can see which TLDs they have either from their website or in nTLDstats if you click on the registry. Among the better known ones are agency, .life, .live, .today, .solutions etc.
The .group TLD will go down in price by 35% though so don't renew any of those now.
A few Donuts will stay unchanged.
Note also that .club registry have announced forthcoming price increases.
I will be glad when we get clarity whether the 4 years of 6% per year .com price increases will be implemented.
The .org actually worries me more. They say they don't plan to raise prices more than 10% pa, but the current cap already allowed them to raise prices up to 10% each year, so why get cap removed if you have no long term plans for higher increases.

Yes, October'1...
My mistake above... too many other tasks in my head...

In September'2018 they were purchased by another investor:
https://donuts.news/abry-partners-enters-into-agreement-to-invest-majority-stake-in-donuts
That's why I typed this month by mistake.

Bob Hawkes said:

so why get cap removed if you have no long term plans for higher increases.

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Imho: it is in the best interest of ICANN, as they should start with something. Something less "noticeable". Verisign lobby is powerful, and .com is what they (icann+verisign) really think about. .Com will be the next, should current "suggestion" re .org be approved. So, indeed, it may well be that PIR is really happy without increasing prices.

Bob Hawkes said:

The .org actually worries me more. They say they don't plan to raise prices more than 10% pa, but the current cap already allowed them to raise prices up to 10% each year, so why get cap removed if you have no long term plans for higher increases.

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PIR depends on Afilias backend...
And Afilias increases fees regularly...

PIR is just frontend...
.ORG technically = Afilias.