The USA Political Thread

lennco · Jul 20, 2012

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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JB Lions · Jul 15, 2018

Grand jury report could name 90 offenders in Pittsburgh diocese alone

"A grand jury report detailing Catholic clergy sexual abuse in the state includes information about more than 90 “offenders,” and a court document released Friday strongly suggests that could be the number for the Pittsburgh diocese alone."

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/fa...Pittsburgh-diocese-alone/stories/201807130197

mr-x · Jul 15, 2018

Who do you think lies more? Trump or the Media?

Looking forward to Oct 1st when Brett is confirmed as the next SCOTUS.

Kate said:
From your own video, even the reporter says 45 constantly blames Obama and that is counter-productive.

You are probably confusing 45 with his administration.

JB Lions · Jul 15, 2018

mr-x said:
Who do you think lies more? Trump or the Media?

1 person vs. all of media (thousands)? Trump still wins. How about Trump and his supporters vs. media. Trump again wins.

Kate · Jul 15, 2018

mr-x said:
Who do you think lies more? Trump or the Media?

Trump. Compulsive liar, the majority of his statements are fact-checked as inaccurate at best or downright untrue.
Even when he's attacking allies like Germany, he does so quoting made-up stats, you wonder why nobody is taking him seriously. You can't discuss with someone who is completely out of touch with reality.

And Congress is literally forcing 45's hand on Russia:
US senators vote overwhelmingly for new sanctions on Russia

He is incapable of being tough on Putin on his own.

enlytend · Jul 15, 2018

Kate said:
He is incapable of being tough on Putin on his own.

Aw cut the poor guy some slack - you don't go around telling your handler what to do!

(Wish I knew what the kompramat was. Or maybe I don't ...)

Orangeasaurus is now calling the EU our "foe." Right before his performance review - that should please his boss.

enlytend · Jul 15, 2018

Women: "Can I have birth control?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "I couldn't get birth control so I got pregnant. Can I have an abortion?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "You prevented me from having an abortion so I'm carrying the fetus, but my employer won't provide reasonable accommodations and is threatening to fire me. Would you please pass the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act?"
Republicans: "No"
Women: "I had the baby, but I'm out of work. Can I have WIC and food stamps until I get back on my feet?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "I found a job, but it doesn't offer me insurance. Can I have government guaranteed insurance?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "My kid got sick and I got fired because I missed time caring for him. Can I get unemployment?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "I'm having a hard time getting my kid from school consistently. Can we fund after-school programs?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: I'm prepared to work to support my family. Can you make sure that a full-time job's minimum wage is enough to do that?
Republicans: No. But what's the matter with you and your family, that working two jobs can't lift you out of poverty? And what kind of a mother are you, letting someone else watch your child while you work? If your child doesn't do well in school or gets in trouble, it's entirely your fault. You shouldn't have had a child if you weren't prepared to take care of her."

JB Lions · Jul 15, 2018

Even just the last 2 hours of tweets:

"Much of our news media is indeed the enemy of the people"

"Additionally, congratulations to President Putin and Russia for putting on a truly great World Cup Tournament -- one of the best ever!"

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?lang=en

Attack media, praise Putin.

mr-x · Jul 15, 2018

Shit that never happened.

enlytend said:
Women: "Can I have birth control?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "I couldn't get birth control so I got pregnant. Can I have an abortion?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "You prevented me from having an abortion so I'm carrying the fetus, but my employer won't provide reasonable accommodations and is threatening to fire me. Would you please pass the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act?"
Republicans: "No"
Women: "I had the baby, but I'm out of work. Can I have WIC and food stamps until I get back on my feet?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "I found a job, but it doesn't offer me insurance. Can I have government guaranteed insurance?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "My kid got sick and I got fired because I missed time caring for him. Can I get unemployment?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "I'm having a hard time getting my kid from school consistently. Can we fund after-school programs?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: I'm prepared to work to support my family. Can you make sure that a full-time job's minimum wage is enough to do that?
Republicans: No. But what's the matter with you and your family, that working two jobs can't lift you out of poverty? And what kind of a mother are you, letting someone else watch your child while you work? If your child doesn't do well in school or gets in trouble, it's entirely your fault. You shouldn't have had a child if you weren't prepared to take care of her."

mr-x · Jul 15, 2018

It telling that you can't support your own position without lying.

@Kate. muh russia. Literally.

enlytend said:
Women: "Can I have birth control?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "I couldn't get birth control so I got pregnant. Can I have an abortion?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "You prevented me from having an abortion so I'm carrying the fetus, but my employer won't provide reasonable accommodations and is threatening to fire me. Would you please pass the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act?"
Republicans: "No"
Women: "I had the baby, but I'm out of work. Can I have WIC and food stamps until I get back on my feet?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "I found a job, but it doesn't offer me insurance. Can I have government guaranteed insurance?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "My kid got sick and I got fired because I missed time caring for him. Can I get unemployment?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "I'm having a hard time getting my kid from school consistently. Can we fund after-school programs?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: I'm prepared to work to support my family. Can you make sure that a full-time job's minimum wage is enough to do that?
Republicans: No. But what's the matter with you and your family, that working two jobs can't lift you out of poverty? And what kind of a mother are you, letting someone else watch your child while you work? If your child doesn't do well in school or gets in trouble, it's entirely your fault. You shouldn't have had a child if you weren't prepared to take care of her."

Kate · Jul 15, 2018

Germans fear Donald Trump more than Vladimir Putin, poll finds

JB Lions · Jul 15, 2018

Trump is asked if he will ask Putin to extradite the 12 Russian military officers indicted by Mueller.

Trump responds, "Well, I might. I hadn't thought of that."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-russia-low-expectations-putin-meeting/

Trump on Putin meeting: "I go in with low expectations"
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Who Is America? trending. Starts tonight on Showtime. Going to make Republicans look crazy.

Watch a clip of Republicans endorsing the arming of preschoolers on Sacha Baron Cohen’s new show:
https://twitter.com/twpolk/status/1018372408074522624

Already have Sarah Palin and Moore threatening to sue him, lol.

Oh nice, already available for me, have Showtime thru Amazon Prime - https://www.amazon.com/Who-Is-Ameri...qid=1531681930&sr=1-1&keywords=Who+Is+America

Kate · Jul 15, 2018

More pictures and video from the UK visit:
45 clearly is not at ease with protocol, but it doesn't help when you're accumulating faux pas.
Video: https://twitter.com/EL4JC/status/1017810720409509889/video/1

mr-x · Jul 15, 2018

Did you see how he waited for the Queen to catch up? What a brute.

Kate said:
More pictures and video from the UK visit:
45 clearly is not at ease with protocol, but it doesn't help when you're accumulating faux pas.
Video: https://twitter.com/EL4JC/status/1017810720409509889/video/1

mr-x · Jul 15, 2018

If Brett Kavawhatever is confirmed as SCOTUS, were just steps away from women being required to register their vaginas.

Seriously... people are going to die.
https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2018/...ng-of-brett-kavanaughs-dangers-is-disgusting/

mr-x · Jul 15, 2018

Kate said:
Germans fear Donald Trump more than Vladimir Putin, poll finds

Then they are stupid. Or you're wrong... you're probably wrong.

mr-x · Jul 15, 2018

American leads the world in reduction of CO2.
https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2018/...ust-led-the-world-in-co2-emissions-reduction/

Thanks Obama.

JB Lions · Jul 15, 2018

Check up, from the neck up. Trump getting his annual checkup from Putin.

Domainace · Jul 15, 2018

enlytend said:
12 Russian hackers indicted and 45 didn’t even think to ask for their extradition? Pretty obvious who he reports to. Hope he has a good meeting with his handler.

Aside from the fact that the indictment has almost no real evidence, aside from the fact that no competent computer user would use the same email and same bitcoin address repeatedly - like these Russian "super-hackers" did, aside from 100 other facts that suggest this is nothing more than a political game being played to try to bring Trump down and try to derail talks with Putin...

Imagine a world where all the nations whose elections the US interfered with demanded the arrest of the perpetrators. Half the US intelligence service would be wanted by Interpol.

Imagine traveling back to 1978 and meeting a friend....

Me: In 40 years, half of America will believe that Russians control our elections and that the President is a Russian mole.

Friend: That's insane! I thought that died with McCarthy. Disappointing that people are so gullible. The extreme right really do take over half of America with their paranoia and warmongering then?

Me: Guess again...

JB Lions · Jul 15, 2018

Domainace said:
Aside from the fact that the indictment has almost no real evidence, aside from the fact that no competent computer user would use the same email and same bitcoin address repeatedly - like these Russian "super-hackers" did, aside from 100 other facts that suggest this is nothing more than a political game being played to try to bring Trump down and try to derail talks with Putin...

Imagine a world where all the nations whose elections the US interfered with demanded the arrest of the perpetrators. Half the US intelligence service would be wanted by Interpol.

Imagine traveling back to 1978 and meeting a friend....

Me: In 40 years, half of America will believe that Russians control our elections and that the President is a Russian mole.

Friend: That's insane! I thought that died with McCarthy. Disappointing that people are so gullible. The extreme right really do take over half of America with their paranoia and warmongering then?

Me: Guess again...

No real evidence, lol, you can tell when people don't read stuff. From names, to street addresses to methods used. It's like a contest on who can post the most stupid stuff, who is the most uninformed. So looks like none of you read it, Trump probably didn't read it either.

"half of America will believe that Russians control our elections"

Interfered, fact. Even Republicans like Gowdy admit it. It's fact, there's nothing to deny.

And then, you contradict yourself:

"Imagine a world where all the nations whose elections the US interfered with demanded the arrest of the perpetrators. Half the US intelligence service would be wanted by Interpol."

Then you admit it happens. Duh.

enlytend · Jul 15, 2018

Domainace said:
Aside from the fact that the indictment has almost no real evidence, aside from the fact that no competent computer user would use the same email and same bitcoin address repeatedly - like these Russian "super-hackers" did, aside from 100 other facts that suggest this is nothing more than a political game being played to try to bring Trump down and try to derail talks with Putin...

Imagine a world where all the nations whose elections the US interfered with demanded the arrest of the perpetrators. Half the US intelligence service would be wanted by Interpol.

Imagine traveling back to 1978 and meeting a friend....

Me: In 40 years, half of America will believe that Russians control our elections and that the President is a Russian mole.

Friend: That's insane! I thought that died with McCarthy. Disappointing that people are so gullible. The extreme right really do take over half of America with their paranoia and warmongering then?

Me: Guess again...

You’re deluded.
Did our even read the indictment? The scope of this is huge and there’s no way Putin wasn’t fully aware of it.
What the US did or did not do in other nations is not the issue.
Actually in 1978 I would have believed it. That was right in the middle of the Cold War era and people were very aware that Russia had ambitions and an agenda. They weren’t as naive as the MAGAts.

GILSAN · Jul 15, 2018

Domainace · Jul 15, 2018

enlytend said:
You’re deluded.
Did our even read the indictment?

No, I have a life. Why don't you post the relevant "evidence," and I'll shoot it down? And why would I be deluded? I am not awash in 24/7 media spew like so many Americans. And I know how the world works. much of it from personal experience.

enlytend said:
What the US did or did not do in other nations is not the issue.

Sure it is. The US is accusing Russian of engaging in standard practices for America, and calling it a crime. Repeat: the US is saying what Russia did is a crime that deserves a harsh response. What the US has done to interfere in elections around the world is many magnitudes greater than what they accuse Russia of. What response does the US deserve for such an outrage?

You tell me, how should the US be punished? Certainly it should be magnitudes greater than whatever punishment you deem is appropriate for Russia.

While you are at it, read up a bit on the cold war. Several of the inside players from intelligence in those days have shown what a deadly farce it was. Americans can be worse than Islamic terrorists - they excuse no end of hypocrisy, destruction and violence by believing they are the good guys. Wake up.

JB Lions · Jul 15, 2018

me - lol, you can tell when people don't read stuff.
enlytend - Did our even read the indictment?

Domainace - No, I have a life.

lol, you can't make this shit up.

wait.............

Domainace said:
Aside from the fact that the indictment has almost no real evidence,

Just admitted he didn't read it.

enlytend · Jul 15, 2018

Domainace said:
Why don't you post the relevant "evidence," and I'll shoot it down?

You didn’t even read the indictment and you’re an expert? Do you do brain surgery too?

Contrary to what you seem to believe, an indictment doesn’t “contain” evidence. It’s a statement by a grand jury that the prosecutors presented sufficient evidence to establish probable cause and proceed to trial.

GILSAN · Jul 15, 2018

Domainace said:
The US is accusing Russian of engaging in standard practices for America, and calling it a crime. Repeat: the US is saying what Russia did is a crime that deserves a harsh response. What the US has done to interfere in elections around the world is many magnitudes greater than what they accuse Russia of. What response does the US deserve for such an outrage?

You tell me, how should the US be punished? Certainly it should be magnitudes greater than whatever punishment you deem is appropriate for Russia.

While you are at it, read up a bit on the cold war. Several of the inside players from intelligence in those days have shown what a deadly farce it was. Americans can be worse than Islamic terrorists - they excuse no end of hypocrisy, destruction and violence by believing they are the good guys. Wake up.

Hear, Hear... problem is, the Liberal Americans are so deeply brainwashed, that there is no way they will ever understand this and especially now that they lost the elections against Trump.

They're still in the middle of their "election loss nightmare" and they will never get over it till they get back the White House... by Hook or by Crook, with the help of the powerful, lying Liberal BS Media...

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