BrandPa.com Experience (Brandable Domain Marketplace)

Chris Hydrick · Feb 20, 2017

BrandPa.com has announced their presence on NamePros...

Jowita Emberton said:
Hi there! I'm sorry your experience with BB wasn't pleasant :/ If you'd like to try our marketplace please don't hesitate to do so We're new in the domaining industry but very eager to learn! Let me know what you think or if you have any questions This is us: https://brandpa.com/ (or if you'd like to read about the sellers' rules visit this page: https://brandpa.com/start-selling)

Look forward to hearing from you!

Granted, the above post is from the BrandBucket experience thread, and will likely be deleted for being off topic / wrong thread, it was the first time I heard of them. The founder, @Jowita Emberton, had introduced herself in an earlier thread:

Jowita Emberton said:
Hi guys! NamePros is a great website to get invaluable information about the domaining industry. As a reader, I'm here pretty much every day. As a writer, I'm starting today

I'm the founder of Brandpa (brandpa.com), a domain name marketplace similar to BB, BR or Namerific. We use AI and human knowledge to create and judge the names’ value according to how easy to pronounce and catchy they are.

I'm here to learn, get to know you and your recent experiences with other brandable name marketplaces We're still developing the business so any insight on our site (brandpa.com) or anything you're missing from other marketplaces will be very useful

Thanks!

I'm creating this thread to discuss their marketplace, and for those who have experiences with them.

Here's what I know so far:

The founder, @Jowita Emberton, runs two other online businesses according to her LinkedIn page.

Delighten.co.uk - Web / brand design firm.

Weddination.com - Polish wedding services

According to her LinkedIn, she has been operating BrandPa since August 2016. Though, the last cached Archive.org screenshot is a server error on October 4, 2016 HERE

BrandPa.com (2006) is registered to Oliver Emberton, founder and managing director of SilkTide.com.

Currently, there are 562 domains published / listed on BrandPa. It appears most domains listed are handregged by the owners. Not 100% on this; I will run a check when my program is working again.

After reviewing their listings, I found two errors.

The domain regged is MonoRaptor.com, but the text reads ManoRaptor.com

The domain regged is UnknownVenues.com, but the text reads UnknownVenus.com

At first look:

Pros

No Listing Fee
FREE Logos
Domain Owner sets price ($1,000+)
Forwards all offers for sellers consideration
Brandpa is a pretty memorable / catchy brandable domain.
Select 'On-Sale' marketing section

Cons

Low Alexa Ranking (4,557,819)

New site. Assuming low organic traffic, and low type-in traffic due to quality and quantity of inventory.
Piggy-back branding off BrandBucket in site footer see below

Reviews are all from .co.uk domains, yet BrandPa doesn't sell any .co.uk domains. A quick glance at other domains owned by the reviewers and I wasn't able to verify any brandable .com's with history tracing back to BrandPa.

Personal thoughts: I respect that they "allow the seller to submit more domain names" by not charging a listing fee. To me this shows they are willing to work for your exclusivity. Should they gain popularity, I wonder if they'll sustain this business model and/or if their logo / listing quality will decrease over time when resources are spread across the masses.

@Jowita Emberton = Feel free to comment / fill in any of the blanks.

leftfielder · Feb 10, 2018

Here's my experience:

6 domains submitted 01/16/18 + 1 domain submitted later that night = 7 total.
3 rejected, 4 accepted 01/21/18
3 listed on 02/05/2018, 1 listed on 02/07/18
Lowest to Highest Price $2050 - $4450

10 domains submitted 01/18/18
6 rejected, 4 accepted 01/24/2018
Lowest to Highest Price $2150 - $2950
Not yet Listed

5 domains submitted 01/25/18
3 rejected, 2 accepted 02/02/2018
Lowest to Highest Price $3450 & $3450
2 accepted at BB for almost half the price
Not yet listed

2 domains submitted 02/02/18
1 rejected 02/05/2018, 1 rejected 02/07/18
1 of these accepted at BB for $2495

2 domain submitted 02/05/18
1 rejected 02/09/18, 1 accepted 02/09/18
Price $5850 also accepted at BB for $1,495
Not yet listed

2 domains submitted 02/07/18
TBA

Trying my best to keep track but approximately

13 rejected, 7 accepte, 4 listed
1 deleted, 1 submission pending
47% acceptance rate and about 80% of my brandpa accepted names are flat out rejected at BB

From experience, expect 3-4 WEEKS to turn a submission into a listing.
From research, expect up to 6 months for a sale, less for a "HOT" name.

creataweb · Feb 10, 2018

So far I've sold 2. First one was within a month and fast payment. Second was within a few months and payment pending to me. Might try to submit more names soon.

OnlineDomainShop · Feb 10, 2018

kaposzta said:
I think you can send an email to BP support asking a price change.

But that is time wasting thing ... There should be feature in Seller dashboard for this..

Recons.Com · Feb 15, 2018

@Jowita Emberton

Could you explain the decision to limit submissions to 5 names per day?

10 was already inconvenient, because I don't have time to watch every day for it and schedule time for this, now for me to submit my names it would take ages, as I normally do it once in 2-3 days. If you really need to make a limit, why not to make a weekly one, for example 35 a week, but so that I can add 35 at a time?

Also, did not see any support/help link anywhere on the site for some reason.

ResoluteDomains · Feb 15, 2018

Just sold one. Listed 17 days. Ecotelligent (com) Domain is pushed and in BP account yesterday (Feb-14). Waiting on wire payment to my account.

Everything went smoothly so far from the first offer to request to push domain.

Only suggestion I have, thus far, is to create a status page that shows where in the sales process each domain is. So when your name sells you can go to their page https://brandpa.com/dashboard/domains#s and click on that name and see different status (for example): offer made, offer accepted, payment pending, please push domain to brandpa, payment made, completed, etc Clicking on a status would provide instructions or an invoice if completed, etc.

The more information that can be provided means less sellers (and buyers) having to email and ask them what the latest status is.

Looking forward to more sales!

Haroon Basha · Feb 15, 2018

AGAME said:
Just sold one. Listed 17 days. Ecotelligent (com) Domain is pushed and in BP account yesterday (Feb-14). Waiting on wire payment to my account.

Everything went smoothly so far from the first offer to request to push domain.

Only suggestion I have, thus far, is to create a status page that shows where in the sales process each domain is. So when your name sells you can go to their page https://brandpa.com/dashboard/domains#s and click on that name and see different status (for example): offer made, offer accepted, payment pending, please push domain to brandpa, payment made, completed, etc Clicking on a status would provide instructions or an invoice if completed, etc.

The more information that can be provided means less sellers (and buyers) having to email and ask them what the latest status is.

Looking forward to more sales!

Congratulations.

Jowita Emberton · Feb 18, 2018

Recons.Com said:
@Jowita Emberton

Could you explain the decision to limit submissions to 5 names per day?

10 was already inconvenient, because I don't have time to watch every day for it and schedule time for this, now for me to submit my names it would take ages, as I normally do it once in 2-3 days. If you really need to make a limit, why not to make a weekly one, for example 35 a week, but so that I can add 35 at a time?

Also, did not see any support/help link anywhere on the site for some reason.

Please see more information to your question on the domains submissions here.
The link was never needed but we've now added it - just in case one needs to contact us. It was a good suggestion. Thank you.

Jowita Emberton · Feb 18, 2018

AGAME said:
Just sold one. Listed 17 days. Ecotelligent (com) Domain is pushed and in BP account yesterday (Feb-14). Waiting on wire payment to my account.

Everything went smoothly so far from the first offer to request to push domain.

Only suggestion I have, thus far, is to create a status page that shows where in the sales process each domain is. So when your name sells you can go to their page https://brandpa.com/dashboard/domains#s and click on that name and see different status (for example): offer made, offer accepted, payment pending, please push domain to brandpa, payment made, completed, etc Clicking on a status would provide instructions or an invoice if completed, etc.

The more information that can be provided means less sellers (and buyers) having to email and ask them what the latest status is.

Looking forward to more sales!

Congrats on your sale!

Also, thank you for your excellent suggestion! I'll ensure this is implemented

mitko7 · Feb 19, 2018

I dont know, did we write about that, but something is bothering me:
- I have almost 800 views - is this on the website or the ad placed in BP marketplace?
- My "clicked" looks like get's 3 clicks on 100-150 views.
- My hottest rang dropped from 7.3 to 0. Did my domain was listed in frontpage or somewhere else and now its gone?
- I can see my domain in one category, but this counts as view or not at all?

kaposzta · Feb 19, 2018

mitko7 said:
- I have almost 800 views - is this on the website or the ad placed in BP marketplace?
- My "clicked" looks like get's 3 clicks on 100-150 views.
- My hottest rang dropped from 7.3 to 0. Did my domain was listed in frontpage or somewhere else and now its gone?
- I can see my domain in one category, but this counts as view or not at all?

- I'm not sure about that, but I would say on the website.
- 3 clicks/100-150 views is not that bad, I have a few domains with 10k+ views and only a few dozen clicks.
- It means that the person(s) who watched your domain many times (with probably an intent to purchase) chose another domain to buy (or they moved on to another marketplace).
- The view of the domain owner doesn't count.

Brandworthy · Feb 19, 2018

Does anyone know how many names are listed on their site?

DNWon · Feb 19, 2018

creataweb said:
So far I've sold 2. First one was within a month and fast payment. Second was within a few months and payment pending to me.

How many names do you have listed there?

kaposzta · Feb 19, 2018

Brandworthy said:
Does anyone know how many names are listed on their site?

I don't know the exact number, but it's around 1200-1300.

ResoluteDomains · Feb 19, 2018

I could be wrong, correct me if I am. Not sure how up to date this is but it shows around 724 domains pointing to NS1.BRANDPA.COM I did think it was over in the 1000-2000 range though.

All 14 of my listed domains are showing up in that list (plus the one that sold).

SOURCE: http://viewdns.info/reverseip/?host=ns1.brandpa.com&t=1

karmaco · Feb 19, 2018

Gotta be outdated. None of my names are on that list and some have been up close to 60 days.

leftfielder · Feb 19, 2018

I would give an update but essentially zero changes have been made to the accepted domains from 1/18 onward. One month later I'm at the same 4 domains listed, now with 8 accepted domains in limbo since January.

At what point does Brandpa need exclusivity? If the names are sitting on Brandpa nameservers for over a month with no logo and I sell it personally in that timeframe, exclusivity and the expectation of a commission to keep my account in good standing goes out the window.

I don't suggest pointing names at Brandpa until you get an email saying your name is ready to be listed. In fact, I would't recommend Brandpa at this point.

Embrand · Feb 19, 2018

leftfielder said:
I would give an update but essentially zero changes have been made to the accepted domains from 1/18 onward. One month later I'm at the same 4 domains listed, now with 8 accepted domains in limbo since January.

At what point does Brandpa need exclusivity? If the names are sitting on Brandpa nameservers for over a month with no logo and I sell it personally in that timeframe, exclusivity and the expectation of a commission to keep my account in good standing goes out the window.

I don't suggest pointing names at Brandpa until you get an email saying your name is ready to be listed. In fact, I would't recommend Brandpa at this point.

That's a good question regarding exclusivity. It could very well happen that a name sells before it is published...

ResoluteDomains · Feb 19, 2018

leftfielder said:
I would give an update but essentially zero changes have been made to the accepted domains from 1/18 onward. One month later I'm at the same 4 domains listed, now with 8 accepted domains in limbo since January.

At what point does Brandpa need exclusivity? If the names are sitting on Brandpa nameservers for over a month with no logo and I sell it personally in that timeframe, exclusivity and the expectation of a commission to keep my account in good standing goes out the window.

I don't suggest pointing names at Brandpa until you get an email saying your name is ready to be listed. In fact, I would't recommend Brandpa at this point.

Seems to happen with all of the brandable places, unless something has changed recently. There is a window of time between acceptance and the name getting listed where the logo work has to be done. During that window the name is in limbo. Not saying its good, but it is what seems to be.

Personally, I wouldnt mind having the domain listed with "logo coming soon" so the traffic can see that the domain is listed and the search engines get to do their thing while the name is waiting a logo. If it sells then cake and eat it. If not then eventually a logo gets assigned to it and it continues to be listed.

ResoluteDomains · Feb 19, 2018

karmaco said:
Gotta be outdated. None of my names are on that list and some have been up close to 60 days.

Its what I thought. Its just one reverse IP place I tried. I had read somewhere that it was in the 1000 to 2000 range.

cipcip · Feb 19, 2018

Just had my second name rejected.

sexkb.com 9th Feb 2018 Niche - we think this domain will be hard to sell

I am sure that aryot,tastish, fitsi, kafur, hiiku and other non-sense domains are easier to sell.

sex = sex
kb = knowledgebase

Enjoy, this was my second and last domain submitted on your site ever.

creataweb · Feb 19, 2018

DNWon said:
How many names do you have listed there?

Around 5.

RozasMD · Feb 19, 2018

cipcip said:
Just had my second name rejected.

sexkb.com 9th Feb 2018 Niche - we think this domain will be hard to sell

I am sure that aryot,tastish, fitsi, kafur, hiiku and other non-sense domains are easier to sell.

sex = sex
kb = knowledgebase

Enjoy, this was my second and last domain submitted on your site ever.

Funny. One of those names you mention is mine. I still hope it gets sold

Well, they just say they think it will be hard for them to sell. And obviously you don't have to agree and can have a completely different opinion. No need to take it too seriously.

Good luck with your domain name!

hookbox · Feb 19, 2018

cipcip said:
Just had my second name rejected.

sexkb.com 9th Feb 2018 Niche - we think this domain will be hard to sell

I am sure that aryot,tastish, fitsi, kafur, hiiku and other non-sense domains are easier to sell.

sex = sex
kb = knowledgebase

Enjoy, this was my second and last domain submitted on your site ever.

Thats not a brandable domain.

leftfielder · Feb 19, 2018

AGAME said:
There is a window of time between acceptance and the name getting listed where the logo work has to be done.

Personally, I wouldnt mind having the domain listed with "logo coming soon" so the traffic can see that the domain is listed and the search engines get to do their thing while the name is waiting a logo.

no site in hell will admit to it taking 4 weeks to get a logo done. The model is broken. I’m not trying to sound entitled but what the point of TOS when a company gives bad service?

I do like your idea of pre-listings, except buyers are expecting a logo with the name and may not stick around for 4 weeks.

kaposzta · Feb 19, 2018

leftfielder said:
I would give an update but essentially zero changes have been made to the accepted domains from 1/18 onward. One month later I'm at the same 4 domains listed, now with 8 accepted domains in limbo since January.

At what point does Brandpa need exclusivity? If the names are sitting on Brandpa nameservers for over a month with no logo and I sell it personally in that timeframe, exclusivity and the expectation of a commission to keep my account in good standing goes out the window.

I don't suggest pointing names at Brandpa until you get an email saying your name is ready to be listed. In fact, I would't recommend Brandpa at this point.

Send an email to Brandpa support or ask Jowita on the Slack channel. There might be a technical issue, and they might not see your domains or something like that.

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