Virtual Reality Domains (VR)

cordoba said:

That's around 40 names, so say $20x40 = $800 for 10 years = $8000 in renewals. I'd be amazed if you ever managed to sell one of those for $x,xxx, even if VR becomes mainstream in that time frame.

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true.. except for the part where it costs me $20 to renew one .com for one year. I pay like $8.
so total like 3k for 10 years.. can anyone of these sell for 4 figures in that time.. hmmmm.. 10 years is a real long time...... its hard to say what will happen in 10 years and once VR becomes mainstream.

but.. in this case, with dashed stuff, it's a gamble I won't be taking. cheers. ty.

UniflexDomains said:

I like the idea of VR but how long do you think it will be before its really taken off and become main stream? I mean I dont know anyone who has a vr unit and have never seen any advertising in the real world. Whats the projected time scale before vr is like tv. 5 years? 10 years?

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Within next 3 years I belive most of us will know what VR is, in 6-7 years at least 1 billion of headsets will be sold.

UniflexDomains said:

I like the idea of VR but how long do you think it will be before its really taken off and become main stream? I mean I dont know anyone who has a vr unit and have never seen any advertising in the real world. Whats the projected time scale before vr is like tv. 5 years? 10 years?

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The future is always uncertain, but articles like this one may shed some light, either way, it is only a matter of time before VR and all other "cousins like AR/MR" will go mainstream:

Total spending on AR/VR products and services is expected to jump from $11.4 billion in 2017 to nearly $215 billion 2021, for a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 113 percent. *Source: https://www.information-management....in-augmented-and-virtual-reality-skyrocketing

cordoba said:

That's around 40 names, so say $20x40 = $800 for 10 years = $8000 in renewals. I'd be amazed if you ever managed to sell one of those for $x,xxx, even if VR becomes mainstream in that time frame.

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You are paying too much for domains. Pay no more than $8.50 at Godaddy. If you add the price of the discount club it's only a fraction of the total amount of renewal fees but cuts your expenses in half, so it's totally worth it.

Godaddy Discount Domain Club:
https://www.godaddy.com/domains/discount-domains.aspx


People complain a lot about Godaddy service, but when you have a VIP Account Exec ("Pro" account) they really give you the red carpet. If you don't have one you may qualify if you have hundreds of domains with them. They give you hook-ups and discounts too.

URLU said:

The future is always uncertain, but articles like this one may shed some light, either way, it is only a matter of time before VR and all other "cousins like AR/MR" will go mainstream:

Total spending on AR/VR products and services is expected to jump from $11.4 billion in 2017 to nearly $215 billion 2021, for a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 113 percent. *Source: https://www.information-management....in-augmented-and-virtual-reality-skyrocketing

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And that's just VR! Never mind it's sister reality, which is expected to be bigger. Shed your mediocre ("OK") domains so you can hold on to your very best. It will be worth it. It's a long wait bit it will pay off...

Been a while. It's been all quiet on the VR front for me. Offers came to an abrupt halt around March of this year. Recent lowball min offer on GD auctions on G-u/l/f+v-r. Quoted 15k. High but I see use in vacation rentals on this one too.

I also received interest on VR+S-y/ner-gy but the end user went with a .biz, of course he put their email on the coming soon page as .com, lol.

I do get a lot of traffic, far more than when I first posted here so I'm still optimistic about VR. I would echo the above though, stick to quality. As with all other niches the vast majority of domains simply won't sell.

When i first joined here, everyone was saying in this thread 2016 is the year of VR domains, then when we all realized it wasn't, the collective voice was saying 2017 is the year, 70% of the way through 2017 i think it's fair to say it hasn't.

Infact this years VR domain sales have decreased compared to previous years, even from 2015.

Truth is none us know how long it's going to take, if at, reason I'm saying this is new people read the positivity and bias in this thread and will buy into the hype and i fell into that trap when i first joined.

Do research yourself and if you believe in VR domaining's potential only then invest, don't let other people influence your decisions as none of us here know for sure, we are all in the same boat as each other at the end of the day and have put money into the unknown.

FTR i still believe in VR domains potential, spent well into 5 figures on virtual tech domains and 1 of few who's spent 5 figures on 1 domain single domain with hope on making money on it, but i don't want to let my 'opinion' sway others into investing, as i have no idea if I've done the right thing or not, I've took a shot in the dark and got my fingers crossed.

Winfluence said:

You are paying too much for domains. Pay no more than $8.50 at Godaddy. If you add the price of the discount club it's only a fraction of the total amount of renewal fees but cuts your expenses in half, so it's totally worth it.

Godaddy Discount Domain Club:
https://www.godaddy.com/domains/discount-domains.aspx


People complain a lot about Godaddy service, but when you have a VIP Account Exec ("Pro" account) they really give you the red carpet. If you don't have one you may qualify if you have hundreds of domains with them. They give you hook-ups and discounts too.

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Thanks, I'll check that out. I've been paying around $25 for GoDaddy renewals and then another $10 for privacy, which I use a lot because so many of my names are adult. Namecheap is $9 for renewal and $4 for renewal with the first year free.

KingslayerVR said:

When i first joined here, everyone was saying in this thread 2016 is the year of VR domains, then when we all realized it wasn't, the collective voice was saying 2017 is the year, 70% of the way through 2017 i think it's fair to say it hasn't.

Infact this years VR domain sales have decreased compared to previous years, even from 2015.

Truth is none us know how long it's going to take, if at, reason I'm saying this is new people read the positivity and bias in this thread and will buy into the hype and i fell into that trap when i first joined.

Do research yourself and if you believe in VR domaining's potential only then invest, don't let other people influence your decisions as none of us here know for sure, we are all in the same boat as each other at the end of the day and have put money into the unknown.

FTR i still believe in VR domains potential, spent well into 5 figures on virtual tech domains and 1 of few who's spent 5 figures on 1 domain single domain with hope on making money on it, but i don't want to let my 'opinion' sway others into investing, as i have no idea if I've done the right thing or not, I've took a shot in the dark and got my fingers crossed.

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I think this and the related forum threads have been a little less active too, with me and Onekey and some others not here so much.

Winfluence said:

You are paying too much for domains. Pay no more than $8.50 at Godaddy. If you add the price of the discount club it's only a fraction of the total amount of renewal fees but cuts your expenses in half, so it's totally worth it.

Godaddy Discount Domain Club:
https://www.godaddy.com/domains/discount-domains.aspx


People complain a lot about Godaddy service, but when you have a VIP Account Exec ("Pro" account) they really give you the red carpet. If you don't have one you may qualify if you have hundreds of domains with them. They give you hook-ups and discounts too.

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Thanks for the info.
I just noticed yesterday that I am now "pro" level at GD.
Could you give some examples of the benefits or discounts they have given you?
Cheers

cordoba said:

I think this and the related forum threads have been a little less active too, with me and Onekey and some others not here so much.

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I don’t post all that much myself now, I think that’s mainly because this is a showcase thread and there’s nothing left to register and all the best VR domains are on lockdown now so can’t be bought by an investor.

I’ve not seen a recent reg posted on here for about a year now, no disrespect to anyone as i know they are only trying, but the VR thread is just like looking at floods of spam nowadays.

I used to like posting in the VR vs AR thread, but even that as got a bit tiresome, we’ve ran out of things to talk about lol.

KingslayerVR said:

I don’t post all that much myself now, I think that’s mainly because this is a showcase thread and there’s nothing left to register and all the best VR domains are on lockdown now so can’t be bought by an investor.

I’ve not seen a recent reg posted on here for about a year now, no disrespect to anyone as i know they are only trying, but the VR thread is just like looking at floods of spam nowadays.

I used to like posting in the VR vs AR thread, but even that as got a bit tiresome, we’ve ran out of things to talk about lol.

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lol... I changed my avatar today.

cordoba said:

Thanks, I'll check that out. I've been paying around $25 for GoDaddy renewals and then another $10 for privacy, which I use a lot because so many of my names are adult. Namecheap is $9 for renewal and $4 for renewal with the first year free.

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$35 per domain? Ouch. NameSilo is 8.30, free privacy, access to Sedo MLS and Afternic Fast Transfer. So in effect you get the same if not more market exposure with BIN pricing. Your domain will show up if a users searches for it on Godaddy. Strikes me as a complete waste of money but each to their own.

KingslayerVR said:

When i first joined here, everyone was saying in this thread 2016 is the year of VR domains, then when we all realized it wasn't, the collective voice was saying 2017 is the year, 70% of the way through 2017 i think it's fair to say it hasn't.

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@KingslayerVR, I respectfully disagree with your premise... Back in 2015, when you joined, some of us with experience in emerging tech names were urging restraint against the hype and projecting minimum 3-5 years before the VR market matured. (See quotes below circa July 2015...) Experience occasionally has its benefits!

NamesBond said:

Great point that few bring up when discussing the adoption timeline for VR!

(I think Zuckerberg himself noted that it would be about 3-5 years until "critical mass" was reached in VR. ) All this by way of saying, if you're not factoring in at least 3-5 years of renewals in your VR domain purchases, you're not doing your homework... (JMHO... )

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gilescoley said:

Well said, its going to take over 5 years before its available (financially speaking) to the majority of average people...a lot of people are thinking in 12-24 months and they will flipping their domains, it will never happen in that time, it was the same with the cloud niche, it took over 6 years before I flipped my first cloud name, damn the wait was long but certainly worth it in the end, there were many times I almost let them all expire but just kept hoping....

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All the above my way of saying that IMHO, we're still right on schedule... 2020, here we come! (e.g. Time is the difference between domain "investing" vs. domain "flipping!" )

I am disappointed about the VR domain sales. When i build me portfolio back in early 2015 i definitely was counting on bigger / faster growth of the market. I must admit i have my best (red niche) and casino domains not for sale but i have domains like WinnerVR for sale at 750 euro together with a lot of other domains and zero interest... i currently have 170+ VR/MR domains for sale for 750 euro and all poker, sports and mainstream. I hope we will see some improvements the next 4 months...

Type-In said:

I am disappointed about the VR domain sales. When i build me portfolio back in early 2015 i definitely was counting on bigger / faster growth of the market. I must admit i have my best (red niche) and casino domains not for sale but i have domains like WinnerVR for sale at 750 euro together with a lot of other domains and zero interest... i currently have 170+ VR/MR domains for sale for 750 euro and all poker, sports and mainstream. I hope we will see some improvements the next 4 months...

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I think a lot of us are tbh mate. I do get a lot of enquiries/offers for my best domains, all low offers mainly, like $50-$200. I reply to them now and again, but going to stop altogether now though.

Replied to one a couple weeks ago, a buyable counter even for an investor for a domain i paid 4 figures for myself and they started being abusive, I’m sure they think they are giving you the world when they offer like $100.

My handregs, barely any interest. Most interest in my handregs are for my VRtual domains, sold the betting package (2 domains) 2 months ago for a good ROI and someone offered me mid 3 figures for a VRtual+keyword last month, seemed a decent guy, wanted it for a uni-project ended up pulling out but was polite/respectful about it all.

I was going to let those drop but might renew them again as i have all the best keywords in those.

A lot of my handregs are getting dropped (or sold cheaply) though when it comes to renewals (next 3 months).

Domainsyrup said:

Showcasing Virtual Reality With Blockchain, VIBEHub To Offer First VR Decentralized Marketplace; Official Token Sale Has started

BlockchainVR
BlockchainAR
TokenVR
VRtoken
VRBitcoin

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Goldmine hold on tight.

KingslayerVR said:

When i first joined here, everyone was saying in this thread 2016 is the year of VR domains, then when we all realized it wasn't, the collective voice was saying 2017 is the year, 70% of the way through 2017 i think it's fair to say it hasn't.

Infact this years VR domain sales have decreased compared to previous years, even from 2015.

Truth is none us know how long it's going to take, if at, reason I'm saying this is new people read the positivity and bias in this thread and will buy into the hype and i fell into that trap when i first joined.

Do research yourself and if you believe in VR domaining's potential only then invest, don't let other people influence your decisions as none of us here know for sure, we are all in the same boat as each other at the end of the day and have put money into the unknown.

FTR i still believe in VR domains potential, spent well into 5 figures on virtual tech domains and 1 of few who's spent 5 figures on 1 domain single domain with hope on making money on it, but i don't want to let my 'opinion' sway others into investing, as i have no idea if I've done the right thing or not, I've took a shot in the dark and got my fingers crossed.

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I hear ya. I feel the same way, but we do need patience.

As @NamesBond said, we were never going to see regular decent sales in 1, 2 or even 3 years, if you check, most of sales that have happened are just domainer sales, these domains have not been developed and arent being used by end users, so we are still in the domainer investment "hype" stage. It will be at least 2019 and beyond before we start seeing decent "regular" sales. This is the time now to let all the average hand registrations go, don't renew names you you know wont sell or names you though would have sold by now...renewing them will just take away from the profit of any sales you do make in a few years time. Rather cut your losses now and focus on keep your best names only, and by that I dont mean your best 300 or 500 names, because none of us here even have 100 top names. I would make sure that number is certainly below 100.

Good luck everyone, patience pays off

I'm with you guys. A little disappointed with 2017 (so far). But, you know, I don't believe it's a "VR" thing. It seems sales are slow and low all around. I think there's even a few threads about it here on NP.

&The slowing down of this thread is just natural. I mean, how many times can we share the same domains, report a new lowball offer, initiate a new member, and post a readily available news article?

On the bright side, if things are down, there's only really one way they can go...

kinda slow but its summer... between 15/16/17.. for me 17 was by far the best VR year so far.. where I had few sales.. and that is not counting all the refused offers.. which imo add up to another 4 figure total.....I don't know about others but VR was always a 5 year or so wait time for me.. so when others say 2019-2020 I think that's right on the money.. vr is still the future imo.. but.. I guess there is always some gambling involved in domaining.. its just that some niches are way less of a gamble than others.. VR is one such niche.. imo of course.

some offr activity for me lately, since posting here:

in last week I had $300 offr (afternic) for another longtail keyword (not producer keyword for $600 offr I talked of before).. unfortunately it is a good keyword.. so I asked for double.. and never heard back. I Do not regret of course. good longtail keywords have a good future imo.

today I had a kw+vr.com offr of $200.. very average keyword I may not renew next year when its due.. so I asked for $280 and I think he'll take it.. but.. beauty is in the eye of the buyer.. concepts like premium names or average are not guaranteed to mean as much to endusers as they do to domainers.. I'll post name later if sale. they keyword is same meaning in english+frnech.. so I think this one might be going to france based on his inbound email.

hxp said:

I'm with you guys. A little disappointed with 2017 (so far). But, you know, I don't believe it's a "VR" thing. It seems sales are slow and low all around. I think there's even a few threads about it here on NP.

&The slowing down of this thread is just natural. I mean, how many times can we share the same domains, report a new lowball offer, initiate a new member, and post a readily available news article?

On the bright side, if things are down, there's only really one way they can go...

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hahha.. well.. you know.. its a showcase thread.. we regged a lot of stuff in 2015 when I joined.. which was still decent average keywords to get.. so we were showcasing our regs.. many of us.. then regging got less.. so thread slowed down..

we should all probably just take a break from VR and get back together here in 2019-2020 and see how it went though I do expect imo a bunch of VR sales before that.. some endusers some resellers as in all domain niches (not that VR compares to most of them cause revolutions don't come around 10 times a year)... 3 figures for the more avergae stuff... and 4+ figures for the more preimium stuf.. that's how I see future.. but of course.. no one here has crystal balls.. just some past experience with totally unrelated domain niches .. which is fine.. cause all niches are unique.. and will produce unique results in the end.

cheers good luck all!

alcy said:

hahha.. well.. you know.. its a showcase thread.. we regged a lot of stuff in 2015 when I joined.. which was still decent average keywords to get.. so we were showcasing our regs.. many of us.. then regging got less.. so thread slowed down..

we should all probably just take a break from VR and get back together here in 2019-2020 and see how it went though I do expect imo a bunch of VR sales before that.. some endusers some resellers as in all domain niches (not that VR compares to most of them cause revolutions don't come around 10 times a year)... 3 figures for the more avergae stuff... and 4+ figures for the more preimium stuf.. that's how I see future.. but of course.. no one here has crystal balls.. just some past experience with totally unrelated domain niches

cheers good luck all!

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No, no, don't take it the wrong way. I love showcasing our domains.

Just saying that, after 1414 pages, we're probably going to end up repeating ourselves...

I'm down for VR2020. I wonder what @FX, @mrcurly, @subjot, @Nitindomains, @Hugo_Strange, and some of the other initial members are up to. They were great sellers, and they had some of the best names.

hxp said:

No, no, don't take it the wrong way. I love showcasing our domains.

Just saying that, after 1414 pages, we're probably going to end up repeating ourselves...

I'm down for VR2020. I wonder what @FX, @mrcurly, @subjot, @Nitindomains, @Hugo_Strange, and some of the other initial members are up to. They had some of the best names.

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last I heard they all bought private islands with the VR sales.

jk.

not much hearing from them.. but from what I remember all had nice VR domains and made nice money form them.. even so infinitely early into VR as we are now.