poll I am at 5000+ now, how many domains in your "keeper" portfolio?

[Recons.Com]

So, I finally crossed the 5000 threshold. Let's share here the portfolio sizes we currently have.

For the poll, I am asking to include only the keeper names, those you are likely to renew, not the heavily discounted names you are holding for a year only. But feel free to mention that portfolio size in the comments too.

As for my portfolio, It seems in past year I have more than doubled the size, buying over 2500 names just from GD auctions/closeouts. Most names are with the GD (see the screenshot) but I also have couple hundred at Epic, Dyna combined.

And I rarely drop names now, with probably under 1% being pruned.

 

[newdawndomains]

So, I finally crossed the 5000 threshold. Let's share here the portfolio sizes we currently have.

For the poll, I am asking to include only the keeper names, those you are likely to renew, not the heavily discounted names you are holding for a year only. But feel free to mention that portfolio size in the comments too.

As for my portfolio, It seems in past year I have more than doubled the size, buying over 2500 names just from GD auctions/closeouts. Most names are with the GD (see the screenshot) but I also have couple hundred at Epic, Dyna combined.

And I rarely drop names now, with probably under 1% being pruned.

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How many domains are you selling per month with so many? Or, what percentage of your domains are you selling each month?

 

[blogspotter]

@Recons.Com & @james2002. Personally, the type of domains both of you are registering are borderline at best. I've been dropping similar (or worse) domains all year long. Because of lack of sales. My strategy for last year was exactly the same as @Recons.Com. To grow from 2k to 5k domains.I probably am not as diverse in my acquisitions. The only domains I have ever sold have been aged domains. My strategy for this year is to go back to approx $2k domains by dropping 50% of my portfolio in 2020. .

I am really not sure if building out a 5000 domain portfolio makes a good business sense in 2020 unless average price is 500-1000.
I simply can't find any bargain domains. I don't know who are bidding, but I can't get a decent .com for less than 1000.

Closeout domains are super crappy. Some would sell no doubt, but I would rather Buy a brandable .io or .co or even some Major ccTLDs than those closeouts.

Problem is .co and .io are also getting outpriced.

2020 is great for domaining in a way that there are tons of tools, as well as information, but it also has brought more players in the wholesale market (I suspect a lot of end user also) thus increase wholesale acquisition cost dramatically.

One will need a lot more focus and planning to succeed going forward.

 

[Jeffrey]

I only have about less than 20. Planning to get serious on domaining again.

My former boss had about over 25,000 domains last time I checked in 2009.

 

[gericsb]

Interesting thread!!

I am up to almost 70 domains, after getting back into domaining just before Thanksgiving.

I was away from domaining for about 10 years and have just started to build back up.

I know what you mean about taking a step back even on a smaller scale.

I need to see what (if anything even) selks or generates interest.

I think I was able to get a few good names from the closeouts etc. But...it doesnt matter what I think, the only thing that matters is sales.

So....we shall see if I even move past the 70 domains level.

Of those. I probably say roughly half are definite keepers.

 

[gericsb]

Just discovered this thread and scanned all 10 pages. Thanks @Recons.Com and everyone else that shared information. Great stuff! It affirms beliefs I’ve had on scaling for a long time but have never followed through with myself. Kudos to you for doing so. I’ve had approx. a 5% sell rate on 250 names for the past 4 years. My buys are all hang reg or close outs. I’m seriously considering 90 minutes a day and gradually scaling up to 3-5k .coms. My price points are about 35% of yours but it looks like the net would end up being in the same ballpark.

NameClerk..wow!!

5% sell through rate on 250 names. That's pretty incredible, especially if you hold mostly closeouts and hand reg.

Are your names mostly brandables, keyword names, product specific? Are the majority of your sales via Afternic like a lot of others report?

I am interested because my model I am trying to achieve is a higher sell through rate at a smaller portfolio size.

Are your names priced in the lower xxx range in order to achieve a higher sell through rate?

You have the highest sell through rate I have ever seen mentioned on NP!

Congrats!

 

[DuDD]

Love you @Recons.Com, but how most them “keepers” when expire 2021

Valuable names tho, especially the LLLL.com

I myself have 220.

Samer

• The 4L domain is very suitable for the Chinese market
  

 

[DuDD]

• Good luck in 2021
  

 

[Robin Hablani]

Good Luck Everyone!

I saw plenty of Sales coming in 2021, don't know how it would be for me

 

[chenzen]

Interesting thread!!

I am up to almost 70 domains, after getting back into domaining just before Thanksgiving.

I was away from domaining for about 10 years and have just started to build back up.

I know what you mean about taking a step back even on a smaller scale.

I need to see what (if anything even) selks or generates interest.

I think I was able to get a few good names from the closeouts etc. But...it doesnt matter what I think, the only thing that matters is sales.

So....we shall see if I even move past the 70 domains level.

Of those. I probably say roughly half are definite keepers.

Same story here. Let's see where it goes this time.

 

[Kingslayer]

I once had around 230 domain names, that was too much for me, i now own around 30 and i would like to reduce that even futher.

I think i've said before on here what i'd ideally like to do, i would like to own just 3 ultra-premium domain names as medium/long term investments (single word .com's or industry defining 2 word .com's), if i sell one, put money away and replace the one sold.

That is my aim, but these are obviously hard to buy.

 

[blogspotter]

I once had around 230 domain names, that was too much for me, i now own around 30 and i would like to reduce that even futher.

I think i've said before on here what i'd ideally like to do, i would like to own just 3 ultra-premium domain names as medium/long term investments (single word .com's or industry defining 2 word .com's), if i sell one, put money away and replace the one sold.

That is my aim, but these are obviously hard to buy.

 

[twiki]

I am really not sure if building out a 5000 domain portfolio makes a good business sense in 2020 unless average price is 500-1000.
I simply can't find any bargain domains. I don't know who are bidding, but I can't get a decent .com for less than 1000.

Closeout domains are super crappy. Some would sell no doubt, but I would rather Buy a brandable .io or .co or even some Major ccTLDs than those closeouts.

Problem is .co and .io are also getting outpriced.

2020 is great for domaining in a way that there are tons of tools, as well as information, but it also has brought more players in the wholesale market (I suspect a lot of end user also) thus increase wholesale acquisition cost dramatically.

One will need a lot more focus and planning to succeed going forward.

I definitely agree with all this. Clouseouts - I barely find one good domain in a week. Something, but not enough to put food on the table

What o you think about .com drops in 2021? Not the top (50k bids) but the ones that aren't snapped by DC - but end up caught by everyone's registrar.

 

[twiki]

NameClerk..wow!!

5% sell through rate on 250 names. That's pretty incredible, especially if you hold mostly closeouts and hand reg.

Are your names mostly brandables, keyword names, product specific? Are the majority of your sales via Afternic like a lot of others report?

I am interested because my model I am trying to achieve is a higher sell through rate at a smaller portfolio size.

Are your names priced in the lower xxx range in order to achieve a higher sell through rate?

You have the highest sell through rate I have ever seen mentioned on NP!

Congrats!

I can answer this.

If you price at market rate, like about 30% of the usual value, you can achieve 5%. I had 6% while doing this. Can always get to the same rate.

It's a tradeoff though. Longer term, you might get better by sticking to the price cause .com value grows over the years. So it's probably cash now vs. more cash on longer term.

Edit: Market rate is below $300 BIN (or just a bit above for good names)

 

[gericsb]

Thanks for awswering, twiki!

I may price a few names I dont intend holding around there just to see if I can generate a little cash flow from my portfolio.

Thanks added!

 

[blogspotter]

What o you think about .com drops in 2021? Not the top (50k bids) but the ones that aren't snapped by DC - but end up caught by everyone's registrar.

I think if a name is good there will be at least a discount BO on dropcatch and they will get it if there is a backorder.

But some names do slip through the cracks but damn one need to really hunker down and go through the lists every day. The other day there was a pretty decent action on LiveLoveLaugh on Sav

 

[twiki]

Thanks for awswering, twiki!

I may price a few names I dont intend holding around there just to see if I can generate a little cash flow from my portfolio.

Thanks added!

Great cat pic BTW! I had one just like that when I was a child - my first cat and it was such a great companion. Lived a long and good cat's life.

( Apologies for the offtopic - but this is a cat that brings memories )

 

[twiki]

I think if a name is good there will be at least a discount BO on dropcatch and they will get it if there is a backorder.

But some names do slip through the cracks but damn one need to really hunker down and go through the lists every day. The other day there was a pretty decent action on LiveLoveLaugh on Sav

Please define good. What is good for you? Value? Sale ratio?

Unless specified it doesn't provide enough information.

Edit: I'm sure Mike Mann has a different interpretation of "good", therefore I'd like to know where you see this zone to be exactly.

 

[blogspotter]

Please define good. What is good for you? Value? Sale ratio?

Unless specified it doesn't provide enough information.

If good were not subjective, every domainer would be Rich.

There is a certain level of objectivity, but if a domain checks all publicly known objective criteria, they will get dozens of bidders.

To get the hidden gems that slips through the cracks, one needs a certain subjectivity. Which is what sets many of the successful portfolio domainers apart IMO.

 

[twiki]

If good were not subjective, every domainer would be Rich.

There is a certain level of objectivity, but if a domain checks all publicly known objective criteria, they will get dozens of bidders.

To get the hidden gems that slips through the cracks, one needs a certain subjectivity. Which is what sets many of the successful portfolio domainers apart IMO.

I've sold dropped domains like this for anywhere ranging from $199 to $1500. .com, net, org included.

I have a different criteria. If I know I can flip this quick for xxx range, is good. Or longer term above 1k it might be good - if it's a safe bet, or depending on value worth renewing for more years. I have observed though that others price my drop-regged domains more than I would.

But yes it requires deep work with the drops.

I think ngTLD's are an easier market if you are waiting for the right moment with enough cash available.

Edit: In December I've sold my entire EXPIRED .com lot for $10 on NP and domainers wanted them. These are domains I wasn't about to renew anyway. And all originated as drops then manual reg.

 

[blogspotter]

I've sold dropped domains like this for anywhere ranging from $199 to $1500. .com, net, org included.

I have a different criteria. If I know I can flip this quick for xxx range, is good. Or longer term above 1k it might be good - if it's a safe bet, or depending on value worth renewing for more years. I have observed though that others price my drop-regged domains more than I would.

But yes it requires deep work with the drops.

I think ngTLD's are an easier market if you are waiting for the right moment with enough cash available.

Edit: In December I've sold my entire EXPIRED .com lot for $10 on NP and domainers wanted them. These are domains I wasn't about to renew anyway. And all originated as drops then manual reg.

I think if all your expired names are picked up, you have a pretty good eye.

That said I also felt that nGTLDs might be better but damn, nobody is leaving even the GTLDs alone. Gosh.. Everyone one if bidding lol
I think it would be best to get back to settin up own dropcatching for some lesser competitive ccTLD maybe lol lol

 

[twiki]

I think if all your expired names are picked up, you have a pretty good eye.

That said I also felt that nGTLDs might be better but damn, nobody is leaving even the GTLDs alone. Gosh.. Everyone one if bidding lol
I think it would be best to get back to settin up own dropcatching for some lesser competitive ccTLD maybe lol lol

There's no money in lesser competitive ccTLD

.co's are getting sniped by registrars directly today

high value like .de are quite competitive I'm afraid.

 

[Armageddon]

Thedomain.io also has 70,000 names

Some of you might know him..

https://dan.com/domain-seller/thedomain-io?&results=50&order_by=relevance

Who is thedomain .io here on NP ( what nickname ) ?

 

[GeorgeQuang]

I just wondering how much money this huge portfolio can bring to you annually.
Mine is about 1750 domains, sales ratio is 1.7% and 120k revenue last year.

 

[pavan kumar t]

I just wondering how much money this huge portfolio can bring to you annually.
Mine is about 1750 domains, sales ratio is 1.7% and 120k revenue last year.

what's your pricing strategy? Bin or makeoffer?

 

[Nikhil Jain]

I just wondering how much money this huge portfolio can bring to you annually.
Mine is about 1750 domains, sales ratio is 1.7% and 120k revenue last year.

Great work George. Could you throw some light on the type of domains you are selling at 1.7%? I mean like handreg to closeouts or great quality auctions buys?
Congrats once again.