discuss Outbound is tricky. Just wasted 3 hours

[abstractdomainer]

I just invested 3 hours doing outbound on a couple of .net names. Or should I say, wasted it!
It is tricky! At times, it feels like I am working on something that may have no results.

There could be a better use of my time, definitely! If I don't sell a domain by tomorrow, I would do one of the two things:

1) I will never do outbound again and focus on high-value names
2) I will hire someone to do the outbound for me

Whenever I watch some interviews on DomainSherpa of people who did outbound and got great results, or open my Twitter with people selling 10 domains within 60 days of domaining, I get inspired to look at my portfolio, select a couple of names or 4-5 name and start approaching leads for those names.

That's what I did yet again. Last month, or last to last month, I invested close to 10+ hours doing outbound and ended up not selling even one domain.

This week again, I have invested 3 hours so far and approached close to 20 lead for a domain name that I wanted to sell, and thought that it could be a good value addition for them. I wouldn't disclose the domain name but the pricing was $199, which was way below the actual price of the domain name for which it could be sold.
The name is expiring soon, so the pricing was done to liquidate and also get a boost for my outbound endeavors.

However, either the effort or the strategy is lacking somewhere and I will need to figure this out.

Outbound domainers, don't share your secret sauce! But some tips would help!

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I just invested 3 hours doing outbound on a couple of .net names. Or should I say, wasted it!
It is tricky! At times, it feels like I am working on something that may have no results.

There could be a better use of my time, definitely! If I don't sell a domain by tomorrow, I would do one of the two things:

1) I will never do outbound again and focus on high-value names
2) I will hire someone to do the outbound for me

Whenever I watch some interviews on DomainSherpa of people who did outbound and got great results, or open my Twitter with people selling 10 domains within 60 days of domaining, I get inspired to look at my portfolio, select a couple of names or 4-5 name and start approaching leads for those names.

That's what I did yet again. Last month, or last to last month, I invested close to 10+ hours doing outbound and ended up not selling even one domain.

This week again, I have invested 3 hours so far and approached close to 20 lead for a domain name that I wanted to sell, and thought that it could be a good value addition for them. I wouldn't disclose the domain name but the pricing was $199, which was way below the actual price of the domain name for which it could be sold.
The name is expiring soon, so the pricing was done to liquidate and also get a boost for my outbound endeavors.

However, either the effort or the strategy is lacking somewhere and I will need to figure this out.

Outbound domainers, don't share your secret sauce! But some tips would help!

There really aren't any secrets to "outbound" marketing domains. Mostly what it takes is a little "creativity". Here is an example of a domain HalfHashcom that I just started to market. I've owned the domain since 2018, and until seeing TheDomains blog post featuring the $35 purchase of Half.com by Josh Kopelman in 1999 I hadn't really thought about marketing HalfHash.com. Here are a few things I've done since learning this; reached out to Josh Kopelman founder of Half.com to let him know HalfHash.com was available. Then when I discovered names of others who were involved with what eventually became eBay I started reaching out to some former executives of Half.com. Then I start doing research to learn where "Hash" is legal, and then I start obtaining names in the California and Michigan states where forms of Hashish are legal, and the start working that angle.

Bottomline, if you're just a little creative outbound can be fun and exciting. I just wish I had a little time to train some folks to do what I know to do, but I have so many other projects on my plate it's hard to find the time....OutboundRocks

 

[Lord Antares]

There really aren't any secrets to "outbound" marketing domains. Mostly what it takes is a little "creativity". Here is an example of a domain HalfHashcom that I just started to market. I've owned the domain since 2018, and until seeing TheDomains blog post featuring the $35 purchase of Half.com by Josh Kopelman in 1999 I hadn't really thought about marketing HalfHash.com. Here are a few things I've done since learning this; reached out to Josh Kopelman founder of Half.com to let him know HalfHash.com was available. Then when I discovered names of others who were involved with what eventually became eBay I started reaching out to some former executives of Half.com. Then I start doing research to learn where "Hash" is legal, and then I start obtaining names in the California and Michigan states where forms of Hashish are legal, and the start working that angle.

Bottomline, if you're just a little creative outbound can be fun and exciting. I just wish I had a little time to train some folks to do what I know to do, but I have so many other projects on my plate it's hard to find the time....OutboundRocks

This is an example of what you shouldn't do. Don't listen to this guy.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

This is an example of what you shouldn't do. Don't listen to this guy.

PrayTell, Lord of Domains I suppose "Outbound" has never worked for you, but it's worked for me

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I just invested 3 hours doing outbound on a couple of .net names. Or should I say, wasted it!
It is tricky! At times, it feels like I am working on something that may have no results.

There could be a better use of my time, definitely! If I don't sell a domain by tomorrow, I would do one of the two things:

1) I will never do outbound again and focus on high-value names
2) I will hire someone to do the outbound for me

Whenever I watch some interviews on DomainSherpa of people who did outbound and got great results, or open my Twitter with people selling 10 domains within 60 days of domaining, I get inspired to look at my portfolio, select a couple of names or 4-5 name and start approaching leads for those names.

That's what I did yet again. Last month, or last to last month, I invested close to 10+ hours doing outbound and ended up not selling even one domain.

This week again, I have invested 3 hours so far and approached close to 20 lead for a domain name that I wanted to sell, and thought that it could be a good value addition for them. I wouldn't disclose the domain name but the pricing was $199, which was way below the actual price of the domain name for which it could be sold.
The name is expiring soon, so the pricing was done to liquidate and also get a boost for my outbound endeavors.

However, either the effort or the strategy is lacking somewhere and I will need to figure this out.

Outbound domainers, don't share your secret sauce! But some tips would help!

Here's how little the "average" domainer knows about "outbound" marketing Unless I know something personal about the "end user" like where he/she is from, how old they are, or their education I generally just say; "I own a great domain HalfHash.com, that if developed can generate "increased cash flow" Interested? Let me know Thanks

I get a good enough response from this simple "outbound" email I'll be using it forever

 

[ThatNameGuy]

It definitely works, but you need to choose targeted buyers who would value the domain name. This takes education and experience to learn.

I've been doing outbound for almost four years on and off, and I have never had any complaints from the people I have contacted.

Excellent advice, i couldn't have said it better myself. I've now sold a couple of local GEO domains targeting end users and I, like you, have never had a complaint.

 

[wot]

I now have 800 + contacts via Linkedin,each was created by targetting individuals and companies with related product specific domains. Even exact matches to products. From that I have had 4 "sales" two of which failed to pay.

Outbound is hard work, and 3 whole hours from the op, wow, better take a rest.

 

[Joe N]

There really aren't any secrets to "outbound" marketing domains. Mostly what it takes is a little "creativity". Here is an example of a domain HalfHashcom that I just started to market. I've owned the domain since 2018, and until seeing TheDomains blog post featuring the $35 purchase of Half.com by Josh Kopelman in 1999 I hadn't really thought about marketing HalfHash.com. Here are a few things I've done since learning this; reached out to Josh Kopelman founder of Half.com to let him know HalfHash.com was available. Then when I discovered names of others who were involved with what eventually became eBay I started reaching out to some former executives of Half.com. Then I start doing research to learn where "Hash" is legal, and then I start obtaining names in the California and Michigan states where forms of Hashish are legal, and the start working that angle.

Bottomline, if you're just a little creative outbound can be fun and exciting. I just wish I had a little time to train some folks to do what I know to do, but I have so many other projects on my plate it's hard to find the time....OutboundRocks

Interesting approach for sure. It's actually quite a bit less targeted than I had in mind.

What you're discussing here is more like casting a wide net of any and all people in an industry where your brandable name could be used.

Could you share some specific successes you've had with this approach?

 

[koolishman]

This is an example of what you shouldn't do. Don't listen to this guy.

Explain why?

 

[lock]

What people write can make or break each day i get the worst worded outbound emails in my inbox they actually make up total rubbish about their names so they actually waste all their time. Every single email they send is factually incorrect. Call themselves nerdz when all liez.

 

[lock]

Every buyers is from God .

Have respect for your buyer but don't assume others have your ethics..

 

[Lord Antares]

Explain why?

The guy registers HalfHash.com, a nonsensical domain. Then he tracks down people from Half.com, which used to be a subsidiary of eBay, now merged. Mind you, half.com had nothing to do with hash, he just started spamming all the people involved because it includes his ''keyword'' - half.

By contacting people from half.com, he's acting like his domain is in the ''half'' niche rather than the ''hash'' niche. That would be like if I owned the domain Steeltubes.com and tried to sell it to Youtube because it contains the word ''tube'' and therefore must be of interest to them because they are also in the ''tube'' business. It makes zero sense.

PrayTell, Lord of Domains I suppose "Outbound" has never worked for you, but it's worked for me

Outbounding GEOs worked for you, not this. GEO outbounding is something that is well understood and makes sense. You were following prescription advice.

What you mentioned doing above is what gives domainers a bad name. Just some guy spamming untargeted emails and hoping for a bite.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

The guy registers HalfHash.com, a nonsensical domain. Then he tracks down people from Half.com, which used to be a subsidiary of eBay, now merged. Mind you, half.com had nothing to do with hash, he just started spamming all the people involved because it includes his ''keyword'' - half.

By contacting people from half.com, he's acting like his domain is in the ''half'' niche rather than the ''hash'' niche. That would be like if I owned the domain Steeltubes.com and tried to sell it to Youtube because it contains the word ''tube'' and therefore must be of interest to them because they are also in the ''tube'' business. It makes zero sense.



Outbounding GEOs worked for you, not this. GEO outbounding is something that is well understood and makes sense. You were following prescription advice.

What you mentioned doing above is what gives domainers a bad name. Just some guy spamming untargeted emails and hoping for a bite.

Too funny HalfHash.com....Nonsensical? Do you even know what hash is? How about hashish? Do you even know or understand the potency of hash, or where it's legal or where it's not?

I don't think so

Advice for members....don't listen to this guy

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Interesting approach for sure. It's actually quite a bit less targeted than I had in mind.

What you're discussing here is more like casting a wide net of any and all people in an industry where your brandable name could be used.

Could you share some specific successes you've had with this approach?

"Casting a wide net" ???? I don't think so....targeting HalfHash.com to an industry that sells hash/hashish to consumers like in Canada, California, Michigan etc. is about as "targeted" as you can get.

As for success....abstractdomainer who started this thread said if I shared my secrets he might have to kill me Lets just leave it with....outbound works for you Joe and it works for me too Note, all the big successful domain brokers use "outbound" to sell high dollar domains, and it's their secret too.

 

[Michael Norris]

@abstractdomainer I have an outbound tip that could save you some time.... I went from paying and searching, to now just use a simple search trick to help cut down on time... I get about 150 emails after about 5-10 minutes of work.

I've only done it a few times and haven't gotten any sales from it yet but figure it could help you save time or maybe try something new. Message me as I don't want to give out publicly.

 

[Lord Antares]

Too funny HalfHash.com....Nonsensical? Do you even know what hash is? How about hashish? Do you even know or understand the potency of hash, or where it's legal or where it's not?

I don't think so

Advice for members....don't listen to this guy

Half.com has nothing to do with hash, contacting them was blatant spam. Outbound works; that is factual, but not your embarrassing method.

 

[jjngjr]

I hope at this point the op has figured out that the 3 hours spent was not a waste of time but a learning experience.

Hopefully, he is continuing to read all of these replies and is learning from them as well.

 

[Joe N]

"Casting a wide net" ???? I don't think so....targeting HalfHash.com to an industry that sells hash/hashish to consumers like in Canada, California, Michigan etc. is about as "targeted" as you can get.

As for success....abstractdomainer who started this thread said if I shared my secrets he might have to kill me Lets just leave it with....outbound works for you Joe and it works for me too Note, all the big successful domain brokers use "outbound" to sell high dollar domains, and it's their secret too.

Perhaps "casting a wide net" isn't accurate. It's more that there's no specific value being offered to the companies you're contacting. You're simply reaching out with a brand name that contains "hash" and hoping they'll want to use it.

I could register my own name, like BigTimeHash.com, and contact all the same people. Dozens of other people could do the same thing. But we're not offering anything special, because the companies have no stake in these names/terms.

You're welcome to keep your sales secrets, Rich. I was just curious to learn what names you've actually sold with these methods. You're not giving us a complete story. We have no way of knowing how/why/if this actually works for you.

Brokers do indeed conduct outbound. They also share their sales on occasion, and are vouched for by many many customers and people in the industry.

 

[CraigD]

I receive about a dozen outbound emails a week, and I might read one every six months if it comes from a quality dot com address. If you are outbounding any service from gmail or a rubbish extension, it is spam.

 

[gilescoley]

Use Google Alerts, then the potential buyers get sent to your inbox, saves hours and hours of time.

 

[Felix Asibor]

Outbounding is really tricky. I've been outbounding since 24th of June. Only one end user replied asking for my price which I gave him. Till now no response. I even followed him up, yet no reply.

 

[rajdomains]

After contacting 10 companies I have received a reply from 1 and they said they may consider if the price not expensive.

It was a 2-word domain and they own the same 2 words domain with Prefix "The".
I have offered them 850 and after few days lowered to 500 and then they said No Thanks.

Can I do anything at this stage to get the deal closed?

I have never done outbound before, but I think its must in domaining and specially for GEO and Keywords related domains.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Outbounding is really tricky. I've been outbounding since 24th of June. Only one end user replied asking for my price which I gave him. Till now no response. I even followed him up, yet no reply.

"Outbound" is like everything else in life...the more you do it the better you get. Domaining is one crazy industry, but like with most industries a 1-2% success rate is a good number to shoot for. I've done a lot of direct mail marketing for other industries, and if i got a 1% response I was ecstatic. If you let enough people know you have a domain they may be interested in, inquiries will follow. Of course this assumes you have decent domains and you're targeting the right audience. Good Luck

 

[ThatNameGuy]

After contacting 10 companies I have received a reply from 1 and they said they may consider if the price not expensive.

It was a 2-word domain and they own the same 2 words domain with Prefix "The".
I have offered them 850 and after few days lowered to 500 and then they said No Thanks.

Can I do anything at this stage to get the deal closed?

I have never done outbound before, but I think its must in domaining and specially for GEO and Keywords related domains.

I'm not sure Raj, but I applaud you for trying. The fact that you got a 10% response is outstanding. Keep trying....you'll only get better and better. Keep mixing it up, what works today may not work tomorrow. Also, provide options like terms of $25 a month. Providing options will result in more sales. In the collection business I'd always ask, "would you like to pay by check, credit card or cash?" Options are always good
Good Luck

 

[Joe N]

After contacting 10 companies I have received a reply from 1 and they said they may consider if the price not expensive.

It was a 2-word domain and they own the same 2 words domain with Prefix "The".
I have offered them 850 and after few days lowered to 500 and then they said No Thanks.

Can I do anything at this stage to get the deal closed?

Not much to be done at this point but to hope they have a change of heart later on.

 

[BBQ Names]

If your .net is better (i.e. shorter) than your prospect’s .NET, then you may have success outbounding your .net If your .net is equal, or inferior in quality, there is no point in spending time outbound marketing it.