discuss Why most people are in denial for Covid-19?

[Ostrados]

Surprisingly 90% of people I meet deny that we are in a middle of a pandemic! They either claim that the numbers are exaggerated and fabricated, or that it is not dangerous and just a flu, or that we are being lied to. The odd thing is that these ignorant claims were dominant at the beginning of the virus outbreak, then people became more aware and took it seriously and they were wearing masks and avoid gathering, but after 3 months everything was reveresed: people stopped wearing masks, gatherings returned and the ignorant claims mentioned above came back. Today I asked a supermarket owner why at the beginning of the pandemic you were wearing a mask and now not? He literally said to me "I was not convinced about this pandemic back then and not convinced now"

It seems that people just got bored and tired and just want to close their eyes and pretend that everything is fine to get back to normal life.

I am with reopening everything and going back to normal life, but we should do that responsibly by doing at least the bare minimum to slow down the virus spread. Recent studies showed that wearing a mask is a very effective measure, is that too much to ask? Or is it a torturous thing to do? Just put on a mask for God sake!

Two hairstylists who had coronavirus saw 140 clients. No new infections have been linked to the salon
Both stylists worked at the same Great Clips location in Springfield. The clients and the stylists all wore face coverings, and the salon had set up other measures such as social distancing of chairs
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/us/missouri-hairstylists-coronavirus-clients-trnd/index.html
"This is exciting news about the value of masking to prevent Covid-19," said Clay Goddard, the county's director of health.

Now restaurants are full of people with nobody wearing mask even waiters! And boom we are in a second virus outbreak wave already and it is not even autmn yet! All of that because of the number one most irritating thing in life which is "ignorance".

 

[frank-germany]

it is actually common knowledge masks don't help.

HongKong
7.5 mill inhabitants
4 death
100% wear maskes all the time

no lockdown
nothing
just normale life



New York
8.5 mill inhabitants
17238 death
no masks

 

[Compassion]

HongKong
7.5 mill inhabitants
4 death
100% wear maskes all the time

no lockdown
nothing
just normale life



New York
8.5 mill inhabitants
17238 death
no masks

Japan
126.5 million inhabitants
<1000 deaths
NO LOCKDOWN
NO MASKS
NO SOCIAL DISTANCING

and if you know Japan from actually going there (I've been there) - you know everyone is really close together moreso than most countries. All 126.5 million people are packed on islands with less landmass than California.

 

[frank-germany]

Japan
126.5 million inhabitants
<1000 deaths
NO LOCKDOWN
NO MASKS
NO SOCIAL DISTANCING

and if you know Japan from actually going there (I've been there) - you know everyone is really close together moreso than most countries. All 126.5 million people are packed on islands with less landmass than California.

I lost my glasses somewhere
could you please type

LARGER????

 

[frank-germany]

Japan
126.5 million inhabitants
<1000 deaths
NO LOCKDOWN
NO MASKS
NO SOCIAL DISTANCING

and if you know Japan from actually going there (I've been there) - you know everyone is really close together moreso than most countries. All 126.5 million people are packed on islands with less landmass than California.

Tokyo 9 mill inhabitants
321 death

317 more than HongKong

 

[Brian L.]

Japan
126.5 million inhabitants
<1000 deaths
NO LOCKDOWN
NO MASKS
NO SOCIAL DISTANCING

and if you know Japan from actually going there (I've been there) - you know everyone is really close together moreso than most countries. All 126.5 million people are packed on islands with less landmass than California.

Most shops and commercial facilities require everyone wear surgical masks in Japan. It’s also required on public transport. The Japanese government has been sending out millions of face masks to its residents for the last couple months. Many people in Japan were wearing masks in public even before there was any sort of pandemic.

 

[Compassion]

Tokyo 9 mill inhabitants
321 death

317 more than HongKong


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In 2016, 372,986 people died of cancer in Japan, accounting for 28.5% of all deaths that year.

https://www.nippon.com/en/features/h00211/

 

[frank-germany]

I will be quieter in the near future
I will try to force me
not to talk to idiots no more

 

[Compassion]

I will be quieter in the near future
I will try to force me
not to talk to idiots no more

And I'll say this as kindly as possible.

Anyone who wears a mask shows they've been duped by the New World Order agenda.

Anyone who walks with no fear without a mask shows their common sense.

 

[topdom]

Japanese people consume too much iodine from seafood. This might be why they are corona-resistant. They are also almost immune to breast etc cancers. iodine is one of my favorite minerals.

edit: ok, according to graph above it looks like cancer deaths are rising in Japan.
Why.. First it is a D.S. puppet, so you would be diagnosed with cancer for maximum profit, why waste a life with a cheap death... and then apply chemo. and then death is not a problem, because the cause would be cancer not chemo!
Also sea around Japan was nuked hundreds of times, plus there is a Fukushima accident (attack).

 

[Compassion]

Japanese people consume too much iodine from seafood. This might be why they are corona-resistant. They are also almost immune to breast etc cancers. iodine is one of my favorite minerals.

edit: ok, according to graph above it looks like cancer deaths are rising in Japan.
Why.. First it is a D.S. Puppet, so you would be diagnosed with cancer for maximum profit, why waste a life with a cheap death... and then apply chemo. and then death is not a problem, because the cause would be cancer not chemo!
Also sea around Japan was nuked hundreds of times, plus there is a Fukishima accident (attack).

Japanese people eat healthier than Americans - this is very true and self-evident:



More than 1 out of 3 Americans are OBESE with a BMI greater than 30!


...only about 1 out of 31 Japanese are obese with a BMI greater than 30.



https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_obesity

 

[cipcip]

People are afraid of Corona Virus because it can affect both the rich and the poor.
There are a lot of people dying from world hunger in Africa every year, do you think someone gives a s*** ? There are some small orgs that are trying to give them food and water, but that is it.

In my home country, there are more deaths of regular seasonal flu plus chicken-pox, not corona.

Of course, they make the corona numbers high to get more money from the European Union, as they help each country that is affected by this. The higher the numbers, the more money you get.

 

[Ostrados]

Cv19 has a true mortality rate of .1 percent, which is known by MDs and nurses.

Back up your claims please, what is your evidence on the 0.1%?
I would rather trust numbers from WHO and info from scientific papers rather than from rumors and forums.

The cv19 death count is puffed up and extremely inaccurate. Even so the number is still low.


I can also assure you the mainstream media is not existing to help us be whole, happy and levelheaded. I got a crash course on the truth about the media back in 1999 when the world media invaded my suburban Denver town and I was called and followed by the media for months and up to this day I deflect media requests from the mainstream - another story.

The numbers are not published by mainstream media but are published from official source which is the ministry of health in each country. To fake numbers globally you need the involvement of every country in the world! can you tell me how the whole world got united and agreed on conspiring on this? knowing that many countries are in opposition and direct conflict with each other and there was never an agreement between all countries in the world.

Lets say US & Europe are faking the numbers for some evil plot,
What about Brazil (4.6% death rate) or India (3% DR) or Iran (4.6% DR) or Egypt (4% DR)?
Are all these countries faking the numbers?

Go to this link and calculate death rate for any country yourself:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

[cipcip]

Japanese people eat healthier than Americans - this is very true and self-evident:



More than 1 out of 3 Americans are OBESE with a BMI greater than 30!


...only about 1 out of 31 Japanese are obese with a BMI greater than 30.



https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_obesity

I have a BMI of 29.9, but I am 1.96 meters tall and 115kg

 

[Compassion]

Back your claims please, what is your evidence on the 0.1%?
I would rather trust numbers from WHO and info from scientific papers rather than from rumors and forums.


The numbers are not published by mainstream media but are published from official source which is the ministry of health in each country. To fake numbers global you need the involvement of every country in the world! can you tell me how the whole world got united and agreed on conspiring on this? knowing that many countries are in opposition and direct conflict with each other and there was never an agreement between all countries in the world.

Lets say US & Europe are faking the numbers for some evil plot,
What about Brazil (4.6% death rate) or India (3% DR) or Iran (4.6% DR) or Egypt (4% DR)?
Are all these countries faking the numbers?

Go to this link and calculate death rate for any country:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

The people who really run things in the medical world track the TOTAL MORTALITY numbers to extrapolate the truth of what is going on epidemiologically. This is what is traditionally utilized to determine if there is a prevalence of new killers in the world beyond what is typical.

Total Mortality rates are not higher, which for those with the eyes to see can translate this as fact that there actually is not a pandemic.

Ok if that isn't enough then I'll translate - the fact that total mortality levels are not elevated is proof that there is no pandemic as the wag-the-dog media has people believing.



Believing is the enemy of knowing.

 

[Ostrados]

it is actually common knowledge masks don't help. One may have to review basic immunology and seek info outside the lamestream media and learn to observe confirmation bias thoughts when exposed to different info.

.......and of course the psy op plandemic is a script. Politicians, Hollywood and the athletes are the actors, the tv is the theater.

Please learn about Event 201.

That is not true, please do not spread misinformation! All official sources say that masks help dramatically,
The main purpose of wearing a mask is to protect others in case you are carrying the virus not to protect yourself.
Many people are asymptomatic spreaders, you might have covid-19 without knowing, wearing a mask will protect people in your work for example from getting infected or at least will minimize the chances for the virus spread.

Read this:

Two hairstylists who had coronavirus saw 140 clients. No new infections have been linked to the salon
Both stylists worked at the same Great Clips location in Springfield. The clients and the stylists all wore face coverings, and the salon had set up other measures such as social distancing of chairs
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/us/missouri-hairstylists-coronavirus-clients-trnd/index.html
"This is exciting news about the value of masking to prevent Covid-19," said Clay Goddard, the county's director of health.

 

[Compassion]

Back up your claims please, what is your evidence on the 0.1%?

Let's see what this Nobel Prize winner in Chemistry has to say . . .

 

[Ostrados]

The people who really run things in the medical world track the TOTAL MORTALITY numbers to extrapolate the truth of what is going on epidemiologically. This is what is traditionally utilized to determine if there is a prevalence of new killers in the world beyond what is typical.

Give me numbers + source of info please not speculations

Total Mortality rates are not higher, which for those with the eyes to see can translate this as fact that there actually is not a pandemic.

Who said so?! You?
Please appear on the TV and announce this gem to the people "This is not a pandemic" people will love you for that

Ok if that isn't enough then I'll translate - the fact that total mortality levels are not elevated is proof that there is no pandemic as the wag-the-dog media has people believing.
Believing is the enemy of knowing.

AGAIN these numbers are not published by "media" but are published by the ministry of health in each country in the world (AKA official governmental numbers)

Ignorance is really really very irritating!

 

[Ostrados]

And I'll say this as kindly as possible.

Anyone who wears a mask shows they've been duped by the New World Order agenda.

Anyone who walks with no fear without a mask shows their common sense.

The fact that this is coming from a "healthcare professional" is scary! you are a potential super spreader.

 

[Compassion]

That is not true, please do not spread misinformation! All official sources say that masks help dramatically,

Yeah, why trust one of the most respected medical doctors alive when you can trust CNN, MSNBC, the politicians and Fauci the crook instead.


The #1 MD governmentally speaking (THE SURGEON GENERAL) echos Gundry by saying the masks don't help.

 

[topdom]

It is hard to check death rate, because many people remain asymptomatic and never gets tested, but can spread the virus for a few weeks. I think death rate would drop in summer, so summer is great time to allow it to spread gradually, I mean let young healthy individuals catch the virus and get immunity, but if you are not one , protect yourself. Death rate, I believe is about 1 percent, but because of not counting asymptomatic people it can be much lower. Death is not the only problem, organ damage is possible.

Advantages of summer months compared to winter months:

-higher temperature
-sunlight for vit D
-better air quality indoor and outdoor
-easy to keep a distance between people
-less work and stress, and more time to relax
-hospitals are less crowded

If people don't get immunity in the summer , we will see a big wave in the winter, or we will not be able to make the life normal soon. And then some people will force their vaccines, and we may never know whether those vaccines are acceptable, and when we do it may be late.

 

[Compassion]

and we may never know whether those vaccines are acceptable, and when we do it may be late.

We do know for a fact that if you received the flu vaccine in 2017-18, you were more likely to be infected by coronaviruses.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7126676/

 

[frank-germany]

https://khn.org/news/lost-on-the-frontline-health-care-worker-death-toll-covid19-coronavirus/

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America’s health care workers are dying. In some states, medical personnel account for as many as 20% of known coronavirus cases. They tend to patients in hospitals, treating them, serving them food and cleaning their rooms. Others at risk work in nursing homes or are employed as home health aides.

“Lost on the Frontline,” a collaboration between KHN and The Guardian, has identified 655 such workers who likely died of COVID-19 after helping patients during the pandemic.

We have published profiles for 115 workers whose deaths have been confirmed by our reporters.

 

[Compassion]

https://khn.org/news/lost-on-the-frontline-health-care-worker-death-toll-covid19-coronavirus/

-quote
America’s health care workers are dying. In some states, medical personnel account for as many as 20% of known coronavirus cases. They tend to patients in hospitals, treating them, serving them food and cleaning their rooms. Others at risk work in nursing homes or are employed as home health aides.

“Lost on the Frontline,” a collaboration between KHN and The Guardian, has identified 655 such workers who likely died of COVID-19 after helping patients during the pandemic.

We have published profiles for 115 workers whose deaths have been confirmed by our reporters.

No doubt about it, if people rely on the barbaric methods of the Western medicine model alone to treat this strain of coronavirus, there is a higher risk of respiratory failure, especially if there are underlying health conditions (which lets face it, many people in the USA are pretty sick and have underlying health conditions)

Of every 1st world nation, the USA ranks statistically LAST in healthcare. Perhaps the model of the USA is not the one to follow?

Again, in China, herbal formulas became MANDATORY once the effectiveness was obvious.
But, that information doesn't fit the narrative of the fear scripts repeated on your regularly scheduled programming.

 

[lock]

Out of 174 people that had been ordered to isolate Australia only 13 were home after police checks today. We are in a world where nobody cares about others.

 

[Ostrados]

Yeah, why trust one of the most respected medical doctors alive when you can trust CNN, MSNBC, the politicians and Fauci the crook instead.


The #1 MD governmentally speaking (THE SURGEON GENERAL) echos Gundry by saying the masks don't help.

I don't trust a youtube video
I trust official numbers announced by the governments of 215 countries
I trust medical studies & peer reviewed scientific papers
I trust countless testimonies from real covid-19 patients

For you all of them are lying and that 1 youtube video is the holy truth.. good for you. Do not eat McDonalds and stay healthy.

cheers