discuss Why most people are in denial for Covid-19?

[Ostrados]

Surprisingly 90% of people I meet deny that we are in a middle of a pandemic! They either claim that the numbers are exaggerated and fabricated, or that it is not dangerous and just a flu, or that we are being lied to. The odd thing is that these ignorant claims were dominant at the beginning of the virus outbreak, then people became more aware and took it seriously and they were wearing masks and avoid gathering, but after 3 months everything was reveresed: people stopped wearing masks, gatherings returned and the ignorant claims mentioned above came back. Today I asked a supermarket owner why at the beginning of the pandemic you were wearing a mask and now not? He literally said to me "I was not convinced about this pandemic back then and not convinced now"

It seems that people just got bored and tired and just want to close their eyes and pretend that everything is fine to get back to normal life.

I am with reopening everything and going back to normal life, but we should do that responsibly by doing at least the bare minimum to slow down the virus spread. Recent studies showed that wearing a mask is a very effective measure, is that too much to ask? Or is it a torturous thing to do? Just put on a mask for God sake!

Two hairstylists who had coronavirus saw 140 clients. No new infections have been linked to the salon
Both stylists worked at the same Great Clips location in Springfield. The clients and the stylists all wore face coverings, and the salon had set up other measures such as social distancing of chairs
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/us/missouri-hairstylists-coronavirus-clients-trnd/index.html
"This is exciting news about the value of masking to prevent Covid-19," said Clay Goddard, the county's director of health.

Now restaurants are full of people with nobody wearing mask even waiters! And boom we are in a second virus outbreak wave already and it is not even autmn yet! All of that because of the number one most irritating thing in life which is "ignorance".

 

[karmaco]

People don’t see things as valid until it impacts them. On the other hand, no one wants to live closed off or in fear indefinitely.

How many people do you know with COVID? Me not a one. Most people are more concerned with what this has done to their job, business and finances.

 

[mitok]

Do you remember 2008 and 750 billion? Occupy Wall Street etc. stood against it. Well, how to issue even more money that will get back to you as you will give it as a debt? It is simple, create new coronavirus, spread it globally, and instruct media what they should be reporting. The result? You get several trillions without protesting. That is the real reason of all this.

Google Event 201. Too many coincidences with the current state to be only a coincidence. Event 201 is just one of many proofs that all this is planned.

This virus is dangerous, but not as much as they are telling us. Of course, for some people it could be deadly and we all should be careful and try to stay healthy. However, this virus and the whole situation was planned.

 

[lennco]

The argument for not wearing a mask because of fear of Tyranny is a joke...lol

To say it is Tyranny is to say it is "cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control."

You could say that about any Rule or Law in the US.

These may differ from state to state,
When you go outside in public you cannot go out naked.
Cannot expose yourself to others or risk having to register as a sexual offender.
When you cross a street it must be done in a legal spot or it's Jaywalking.
When you drive you have to obey many laws,
Must wear a seat belt,
Must have insurance
Must have smog inspection.
Must have a windshield.
Must not drive white intoxicated.
Must have a drivers license.
Must obey speed limits.
and so on, and so on.......

To draw the line at wearing a mask is one big ass joke....lol

If everyone just wore the damn mask the cases would go down and we could go back to work and open the country.

As long as people bitch and complain about wearing a mask and refuse to wear one because of their "Right" to do so the numbers will stay up and the country will continue to suffer and the longer this will take.

Just man up, take one for the team, make a sacrifice and wear the fucking mask!

 

[Ostrados]

@alcy we agree or disagree on opinions not on facts. We should not have different opinions on facts.

Claims that are not supported by evidence are speculations not facts, conspiracy theory is believing in such claims without any supporting evidences.

 

[Compassion]

Many people are wise to the scam being played on the populous and more acutely aware that:

92% of all causes of deaths fall in these categories:

1. Heart Disease
2. Cancer
3. Doctor Mistakes (Iatrogenesis)

And these wise people are eating organic food, never microwaving their food, not drinking soda, not going to McDonalds - and overall have the ability to reason for themselves like humans whose critical thinking skills function properly.

 

[creataweb]

If you believe everything the government tells you, I have many bridges for sale.

 

[theodore_zhou]

1.bad things happened on others means nothing to me.
2.all can not be seen by me are fake.
3.i am surely smarter and stronger than those got sick.

 

[blogspotter]

In my city, the situation is getting so bad, it is back to allocating Ventilators to younger people again. Many dead people, both covid as well as other ailments not able to get proper healthcare due to major hospitals dedicated to covid only.
The mental health of doctors are at all time. Imaging having to sign on a death warrant because there is not enough ventilators.
We don't deserve this.
And then for some people it is a Big lie that all Doctors of the world are in together.

 

[Ostrados]

Many people are wise to the scam being played on the populous and more acutely aware that:

92% of all causes of deaths fall in these categories:

1. Heart Disease
2. Cancer
3. Doctor Mistakes (Iatrogenesis)

And these wise people are eating organic food, never microwaving their food, not drinking soda, not going to McDonalds - and overall have the ability to reason for themselves like humans whose critical thinking skills function properly.

It is not about you it is about others, thinking about yourself only is selfish, please think about vulnerable people who died and will die.. governments put covid-19 regulations to protect these people. Is it too much to ask to wear a mask to protect these categories you mentioned from death?! Is it a big sacrifice to you?

Moreover, there are numerous reports about perfectly healthy people drying from Covid-19, one case was a perfectly healthy man in the 20s that died from it within 2 days in the UK, most probably because the virus causes blood clots! Another case was a body builder in the 30's that never smoked that also died from the virus. Also there was a tragic case of a perfectly healthy 16-years old child that suddenly died from Covid.

In addition to the above, even with perfectly healthy people that recover from Covid there are many cases were patients do not go back to normal even after 3-4 months. Some studies show that covid-19 has long term complications and that Crovonairus can cause lasting lung damage that can take long time to recover or even can be irreversible damage in sever cases. Now tell me that not eating McDonalds will protect you from that!

 

[maya-zir]

people mostly is idiot and covid helped us to see how many idiots are around

 

[Cal2]

Surprisingly 90% of people I meet deny that we are in a middle of a pandemic! They either claim that the numbers are exaggerated and fabricated, or that it is not dangerous and just a flu, or that we are being lied to. The odd thing is that these ignorant claims were dominant at the beginning of the virus outbreak, then people became more aware and took it seriously and they were wearing masks and avoid gathering, but after 3 months everything was reveresed: people stopped wearing masks, gatherings returned and the ignorant claims mentioned above came back. Today I asked a supermarket owner why at the beginning of the pandemic you were wearing a mask and now not? He literally said to me "I was not convinced about this pandemic back then and not convinced now"

It seems that people just got bored and tired and just want to close their eyes and pretend that everything is fine to get back to normal life.

I am with reopening everything and going back to normal life, but we should do that responsibly by doing at least the bare minimum to slow down the virus spread. Recent studies showed that wearing a mask is a very effective measure, is that too much to ask? Or is it a torturous thing to do? Just put on a mask for God sake!

Now restaurants are full of people with nobody wearing mask even waiters! And boom we are in a second virus outbreak wave already and it is not even autmn yet! All of that because of the number one most irritating thing in life which is "ignorance".

"All of that because of the number one most irritating thing in life which is "ignorance"."

Don't forget "arrogance". There's 2 key elements to poor & stupid thinking, even from people considered intelligent - ignorance, which you've mentioned, and arrogance.

 

[dombastic]

All of that because of the number one most irritating thing in life which is "ignorance".

1.3 million people die from tuberculosis every year. Every year!
And a vaccine for tuberculosis exists.
Why are you "in denial for tuberculosis"?

World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the inluenza kills 290,000 to 650,000 people per year. Every year!
Why are you so obsessed with Covid-19?
And how long do you intend to be obsessed with it?

Have I mentioned HIV, hepatitis, helicobacter...?

 

[Michael Norris]

The governments are just trying to kill people.

Businesses even have been killed in the process.

Old people are wanting to die, because of the psychological warfare they are facing not being able to see their families anymore.

The government is allowing rioting and looting and premeditated crimes, but won't allow people to eat out or go to church.

Many many men and women sit in closed rooms without masks, while explaining to the public that we still need to continue wearing masks...

Maybe they don't believe it because it's all a scam..... they thought their man-made virus would kill more, and now they are caught in their own BS... none of which makes sense.... but they still push their BS on the populations hoping for what outcome???? Deaths....

 

[Shamiul]

In Bangladesh, Police gives a fine of around $100 if they find someone not wearing mask in the public. So people here are at least afraid of fine.

 

[noneisnone]

denying the existing of the virus is silly
but it was exaggerated by the media and governments for sure no one can argue that
also allot of fake information got put out there by the media

I don't believe it was a conspiracy but sadly from my personal experience some governments are using the epidemic to do things they want to do long ago but were unable to in my country allot of people in the government opposition were arrested during the lock down the people and the media were too busy with covid to cover there stories allot of third world countries are doing this right now to clean "house"

 

[Compassion]

It is not about you it is about others, thinking about yourself only is selfish, please think about vulnerable people who died and will die

I am a healthcare professional with several thousand hours of training and experience and 11 years in the field.

Thinking about how to help people heal themselves is something I enjoy --one of my passions.


I assure you the mainstream narrative is to keep you in fear and actually defies basic science. Cv19 has a true mortality rate of .1 percent, which is known by MDs and nurses.

The cv19 death count is puffed up and extremely inaccurate. Even so the number is still low.


I can also assure you the mainstream media is not existing to help us be whole, happy and levelheaded. I got a crash course on the truth about the media back in 1999 when the world media invaded my suburban Denver town and I was called and followed by the media for months and up to this day I deflect media requests from the mainstream - another story.

IMHO it is wise to be mindful of the big three killers and avoid the causes.

Overall mortality counts are not up, which ought to scream volumes of truth to those who still have a shred of discernment within their cognitive faculties.

 

[JB Lions]

My question is why the mass hysteria with this now and not in 2009 or at any other time. Thats what I question the most. The sheer hysteria is something I've never seen in my 5 1/2 decades on this planet. Its enough to make wonder over and over.

United States
2009 - 12,469 deaths, not doing much, some school closings here and there

this one - 124,000 and growing, projected 179,000 by Oct. 1 - https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Already 10x the death compared to the one in 2009. That's with lockdowns, businesses closing, more info on how to stop it etc. If we did nothing at all, the number would be much higher.

Of course our economy took a major hit, still lots of problems. But something as simple as wearing a mask when you're out and about seems to be an issue for some. That simple thing alone will help out a lot. A lot of people don't want to talk about politics, but if we're being real, I would say the people that have the most problems with wearing a mask, lean to the right. It doesn't help when you have somebody like Trump sending out the wrong messages, contributing to the spread and more death. This guy literally mask shamed people, won't wear one, won't require one at his Farewell tour, slowed down testing etc.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

With respect to the premise that started this thread, I think how seriously this is being taken depends on where you are.

I have almost entirely avoided any establishments (been inside stores a total of 3 times in 3.5 months, wearing mask and gloves all 3 times), so can't comment with certainty on what is happening in stores, but based on my outside daily walks in our region it seems to me that possibly more people are wearing masks than was the case a month ago (and it was good then). Even though our region has, thankfully, managed to bring cases down effectively. I find the vast majority of people are doing their very best to socially distance by 6+ feet. So I think that it is being taken very seriously in many places, thank goodness.

I think that the importance of having a consistent, medically-informed, and compassionate public message presented in a non-political way cannot be over-stated. It is unfortunate that not all regions of the world have been successful in achieving that.

As our chief medical officer reminds us in her daily briefings, stay safe, stay calm and stay hopeful.

Take care everyone,

Bob

 

[Compassion]

Read this:

This Man Warned Friends On Facebook Against Not Wearing A Face Mask Like He Did. The Next Day He Died Of COVID-19.

This part of the story is interesting:


Here is another source:

He posted his regrets over attending a party in California. The next day, he died of coronavirus

I trust data, facts, common sense, the scientific method, logic, intuition, quality doctors and my own mind infinitely more than I do the mainstream media.

The mainstream media is there to promote division and propagate fear. I will not comply with the agenda of the sick puppet masters who own 99% of the media.

 

[JB Lions]

In my home state of California, the fifth largest economy in the world.....

We have a whopping <7000 CV19 labeled deaths! (Population 40 million)
This is a VERY low number. Flu and virus season is over.

And does it go over your head that it would be more if not for the smart people wearing masks and following some of the other recommendations?

It's funny seeing some talking about the numbers being low, knowing it would be much higher if people did nothing.

 

[Jv1999]

People don’t see things as valid until it impacts them. On the other hand, no one wants to live closed off or in fear indefinitely.

How many people do you know with COVID? Me not a one. Most people are more concerned with what this has done to their job, business and finances.

I'm guilty of this. At the start I was so scared and wore a mask and hand sanitized... then in June I stopped hand sanitizing as much and didn't wear a mask.

But... then someone at work got the corona..... and now I'm going to be on semi-high alert. But tbh. I feel like it's fruitless. If someone in proximity has the coronavirus, no mask will stop it if they breathe into your face... Just saying.

 

[premkumar]

Conspiracy, planned one, Govt taking control that's all different subject. This thread isn't about our action on preventing Covid 19 by wearing mask and being responsible not just for yourself but also by saving your family & friend by not being a Covid transmitter.

Again about argument, mask not effective "if they breathe into your face", same apply to seat belt in car, what if a large truck ran over your car, do seat Belt saves you? Then why wear it? becoz it saves you in many other situation. In gambling/ stock market/ risk management/ permutation & combination, you make you bet which have high chance for you to win than the chance to loss. Wearing mask reduce your risk of covid 19 infection, which is far better than chance of catching virus without Mask.

 

[theodore_zhou]

Conspiracy, planned one, Govt taking control that's all different subject. This thread isn't about our action on preventing Covid 19 by wearing mask and being responsible not just for yourself but also by saving your family & friend by not being a Covid transmitter.

Again about argument, mask not effective "if they breathe into your face", same apply to seat belt in car, what if a large truck ran over your car, do seat Belt saves you? Then why wear it? becoz it saves you in many other situation. In gambling/ stock market/ risk management/ permutation & combination, you make you bet which have high chance for you to win than the chance to loss. Wearing mask reduce your risk of covid 19 infection, which is far better than chance of catching virus without Mask.

we believe a mask protects you,more important help protect others.
a lof of people are found immune for the virus in China,but they can spread the virus to others easily if without masks.
so wearing a mask can help others who are not immune.
this is why in China everyone is required to wear a mask everyday.
even now situation is much better

 

[frank-germany]

1)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1234828026933805057

Boris Johnson boasting about shaking hands w
ith coronavirus patients. You could not make it up.

2)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1243498055867006976

3)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1249336590482243585

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