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I think everyone needs to stop "self-policing" this forum, themselves. We have moderators.

The reality is we don't have enough moderators. We've had some that have left/inactive and haven't been replaced by any new ones. And NP literally started a thread asking for help.

Help NamePros Decide on Community-Driven Moderation
https://www.namepros.com/threads/help-namepros-decide-on-community-driven-moderation.904576/

Of course the obvious choice is just to follow the rules.
 
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And on that note, I'm going to try and logoff for at least a few hours.

Couldn't log out properly without getting one last thing off my chest.

And yes, NP keeps growing:

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And why's that? Because it is becoming more useful to more people.

Thank you @JB Lions for being a longstanding top contributing member of namePros!

Truthfully, I'm not sure I would have lasted on the forum as long as I have, without you there, providing your thoughts, input, and insight to further discussion and balance on namePros.

I don't always agree with JB. I might have even felt put down, or offended by some of his comments. But that's not to say it wasn't warranted, or that I'm not appreciative of his content, agreeable or not, as it usually helps me progress a thought. And I appreciate him being here for that. I wish others could see the content without a bias lens.

When looking at the rise in namePros popularity, I can't help but notice the contributions JB has been providing.

People around here, myself included, are seemingly more prone to respond and contribute to divisive comments, without acknowledging the benefit of the other members. A lot of arguing the avatar, and not so much the content itself.

Similar to the recent discussion between @Samer and I, with his fanboy projection. If I were to follow my own advice, I'd be able to acknowledge his nP contribution, and see past any fanboyness. Though, due to excessive fanning, I can't think of any at the moment, but one day I will acknowledge him. @JB Lions. my apologies for any excessive or unsolicited fanning.
 
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The reality is we don't have enough moderators. And NP literally started a thread asking for help. So your post is wrong.

Of course the obvious choice is just to follow the rules.

Yes, they asked for help. You seem to be the PERFECT candidate! :) I vote for you!

How is an opinion wrong? If mine is wrong then yours and anyone else's is also wrong - so none of this matters..
 
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Beyond that .. the anger here against Epik employees it just ludicrous .. like beyond infantile.

Anger is a feeling
therefore it can't possibly be ludicrous and infantile
it's just a natural feeling

that feeling can come into existence
when it's just too much

and the whe bucket is full
voila
the feeling is there

Anger

some people have larger buckets
others have small buckets

but there is a sure way to fill peoples buckets
 
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I don’t have a mental problem so I don’t need help.

You are banned from posting in the thread the you spammed. Several other members received the same message from Mod too. Not just me.


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Again, nobody has an issue with engagement.

correct
nobody as far as I know

and as far as I read and understand
nobody wants to destroy Rob and/or Epik

but nobody wants this forum namepros to be destroyed either


@JB Lions I got respect for you as a domainer. You have acquired a massive amount of domains over the years. You make many sales a month. Its phenomenal actually. As a domain investor, you are one of the best.

What I don't understand is why you spend so much time debating about irrelevant and unnecessary subjects. Maybe you could clarify what your motivation is?

I bet he is simply upset and has no intention
to allow this forum to become meaningless

at least that's my intention



Actually spending more time on Twitter:


I don't care you dominate twitter
but namepros ...
I'm not a fan of that idea
 
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The reality is we don't have enough moderators. We've had some that have left/inactive and haven't been replaced by any new ones. And NP literally started a thread asking for help.

Help NamePros Decide on Community-Driven Moderation
https://www.namepros.com/threads/help-namepros-decide-on-community-driven-moderation.904576/

Of course the obvious choice is just to follow the rules.

Yes, its the obvious choice but we're all human. I personally dont have any difficulty driving within the speed limits or stopping at stop signs but others seem to do and just as there are "report" buttons in real-life there is one on here too, as you stated, which I agree with (and just liked) you reply in the link you posted:

The Report button works just fine, I think a lot of people still just don't know about it.

100% agree. :)
 
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People .. this thread is about polls .. again this is a perfect example of how all the anti-Rob and anti-Epik sentiment is just out of hand .. there's consistently far more off-topic posts complaining about Rob than the actual posts some of you don't want to see.

If you think his posting is not appropriate you have 2 very good options ...

1- Report it
2- Post what I'm sure is a dozen other threads dedicated to the subject or start a NEW discussion.

Please STOP posting off-topic complaints .. the OFF-TOPIC complaints are ruining NamePros far more than anything else.

"This is stupid" lol
 
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And a dumb move. The thread died. The events seem highly correlated. Too bad for @equity78 because he started a good thread, and now it will wither on the vine. False start. Oh well.

oh
yeah
poor poll
dead.
 
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And a dumb move. The thread died. The events seem highly correlated. Too bad for @equity78 because he started a good thread, and now it will wither on the vine. False start. Oh well.

Thread died, huh?

Is that because you said so?

Your ability to post in that thread died. So I can appreciate, as far as your concerned, that thread may be dead to you.

But to think the thread is dead, is one of the most naive statements I've read today; and that's saying something consider all the "stupid" talk.

Here's why I believe the thread isn't dead.

(1) The poll isn't expected to close until Mar 31, 2020 at 2:04 AM.

(2) The last comment was within the hour.

(3) Thread was only started yesterday.

(4) It's currently trending as the #2 popular this week thread

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(5) The top two trending threads this month will expire soon, leaving room for new threads of the month, and with minimal momentum, we will see Domaining's version of March Madness trending all month.

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You can try, but there doesn't appear to be route in place, that will stop the march MADNESS!

 
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People .. this thread is about polls .. again this is a perfect example of how all the anti-Rob and anti-Epik sentiment is just out of hand .. there's consistently far more off-topic posts complaining about Rob than the actual posts some of you don't want to see.

If you think his posting is not appropriate you have 2 very good options ...

1- Report it
2- Post what I'm sure is a dozen other threads dedicated to the subject or start a NEW discussion.

Please STOP posting off-topic complaints .. the OFF-TOPIC complaints are ruining NamePros far more than anything else.

"This is stupid" lol

So let me get this straight....

The problem is not actually the person who had (4) posts deleted and was banned from a thread for blatant self promotion, it is actually the people who complained about the self promotion.

Got it!

Brad
 
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Another question here is why Rob Monster get special treatment from the Mod??? Is it because he paid for advertising (finally) here???

If any member here spammed like Monster did that member will be banned from the forum (NOT JUST THE THREAD) for a month or the account will be closed.

Just take a look in the past several months and count how many threads about Monster Spamming.
 
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You guys can stop picking on @Samer anytime now. From what I can see he hasn’t a mean bone in his body. His fanboyism is his perogative.

In what way does any of the nonsense complaints on this thread and many other threads (Always tied back to Epik and Rob) affect your life? Your ability to make a living or sell domains? Your well being? IT DOESN’T.

Focus on your own portfolio, stop tearing people down. And ignore who you want to ignore here. When did this place get so spiteful and so nitpicky? I cannot believe the same gang is ruining this forum by derogatory post after post about Epik. Epik isn’t ruining it— the spite directed at Epik is.

If you have real problems in your life posts on a forum are pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things. So get over it and get back to things that matter in your life.
 
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personally, I find it interesting to see that a
fanboy/fangirl aka @Ja Kai ,
someone who admits to really like Rob and Epik
someone who reacted really upset about me posting stuff "against Rob"
is starting this thread

maybe the way Rob is behaving in this forum
may even convert former friends of epik into avoiders

just in case you are not aware:

I have nothing personal against Rob as a privat human beeing
as I don't know him as a person

I have nothing against epik as a registrar
as a registrar epik maybe a good choice for a lot of people
I use them myself

but I will not stay with epik
as I simply don't trust Rob
(he is the 80% owner)


but thats not the issue here at all

it's all about spamming a formerly
quite open, friendly and supportive forum

-quote:

What should Godaddy change its name to!
https://www.namepros.com/threads/what-should-godaddy-change-its-name-to.1177000/page-2#post-7634038

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Yep.That looks like standard operating procedure for Rob Monster! Sue Sue Sue. That is what he threatened me with for simply calling out the fact that his claims of "building" a VPN were false. he threatened me with "court day or judgement day" and called me a troll and a liar. You all are right not to trust Rob Monster.

personally, I find it interesting to see that a
fanboy/fangirl aka @Ja Kai ,
someone who admits to really like Rob and Epik
someone who reacted really upset about me posting stuff "against Rob"
is starting this thread

maybe the way Rob is behaving in this forum
may even convert former friends of epik into avoiders

just in case you are not aware:

I have nothing personal against Rob as a privat human beeing
as I don't know him as a person

I have nothing against epik as a registrar
as a registrar epik maybe a good choice for a lot of people
I use them myself

but I will not stay with epik
as I simply don't trust Rob
(he is the 80% owner)


but thats not the issue here at all

it's all about spamming a formerly
quite open, friendly and supportive forum



What should Godaddy change its name to!
https://www.namepros.com/threads/what-should-godaddy-change-its-name-to.1177000/page-2#post-7634038

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So let me get this straight....

The problem is not actually the person who had (4) posts deleted and was banned from a thread for blatant self promotion, it is actually the people who complained about the self promotion.

Got it!

Brad

Brad, with all due respect, no - thats not exactly it. Its the manner, the tone, of the complaint posts.... I tell my kids this every day, all day long it seems :-/ Its not WHAT they say to each other while disagreeing; its HOW they are saying it - their TONE.

In a nutshell, Rob make a promotion posts, people almost immediately pounce on him and throw spears, they also click report obviously, the Rob posts that violate the rules ARE eventually removed but what remains is................. the hate posts against Rob. That is what I cant stand, not the people who reported the violating posts but the hatred that remains is what I cant stand. Those posts remain, the other posts that a few dont like are removed and this forum is not truly being cleaned up.

Whomever is reporting Rob's posts and having them removed is doing their job to keep the forum honorable. I appreciate that and I cant believe that others would not appreciate that either. I personally do not have a problem with it. I would not have a problem with it of Godaddy or Dynadot or any other company promoted themselves as heavily - I think it would be great. The competition that would result would spur innovation in services and products for us, the consumers. But its not that way, not yet, maybe not ever. So I appreciate how people dont like it, dont want to see it, report it, and want to keep the forum "clean".

And it is hatred because Ive seen many others violate the rules on this forum since April 2006 - despite what my current account states. Yet I have not seen the crowd-hate against them that I see for @Rob Monster and IMO there is much more here than meets the eye. Its more than self-promotion. Something else is bothering all these people to spend their precious time waiting and pouncing on Rob anywhere he appears. I cant imagine having that luxury of time, energy to constantly pick on, harp on, pounce on someone. We teach our children not to bully and yet what I see here is borderline bully behavior. Its school yard behavior.

What am I saying, people should just REPORT the post, IGNORE the user they dont like, and move along but the fact that cant is quite fascinating and leads me to believe there is much more to it than general disagreement. Its sad. Congrats to all, instead of keeping the forum clean of violating posts they've actually muddied it up with hate that the rest of us have to step around.

Remember, there are two sides to every coin and there ARE those here who cant stand the hate posts that are left behind. I am one. I just havent been vocal until recently and I promise - I am done. I will spend less time here. Its not worth it. My time is precious and unlike others, who maybe somehow figured out how to reclaim time, I have not yet. :) IMO

PS- I do want to thank those who have pounced on Epik and Rob because if it werent for them the threads wouldnt have been constantly popular and intriguing for me to investigate last Summer/Fall and if not for that I would never have found an amazing registrar with great services and fantastic support - the way it should be everywhere. We are bombarded with promotion everywhere where go these days. You cant visit a website nowadays without getting nag screens to sign up, blasting videos that start immediately, and so on. Do I like it? No, I just move on. I cant understand for the life of me how people here cant just move on. Its beyond logical which is why I refer to is as Rob Derangement Syndrome. People feel COMPELLED to attack instead of quietly reporting the post and even IGNORING Rob and others they dont care for. With that, I am done. Have fun y'all.
 
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what remains is................. the hate posts against Rob. That is what I cant stand, not the people who reported the violating posts but the hatred that remains is what I cant stand. Those posts remain, the other posts that a few dont like are removed and this forum is not truly being cleaned up.

I really can't see any hate
in posts complaining about Rob

just anger..
that's something completely different



 
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Brad, with all due respect, no - thats not exactly it. Its the manner, the tone, of the complaint posts.... I tell my kids this every day, all day long it seems :-/ Its not WHAT they say to each other while disagreeing; its HOW they are saying it - their TONE.

In a nutshell, Rob make a promotion posts, people almost immediately pounce on him and throw spears, they also click report obviously, the Rob posts that violate the rules ARE eventually removed but what remains is................. the hate posts against Rob. That is what I cant stand, not the people who reported the violating posts but the hatred that remains is what I cant stand. Those posts remain, the other posts that a few dont like are removed and this forum is not truly being cleaned up.

Whomever is reporting Rob's posts and having them removed is doing their job to keep the forum honorable. I appreciate that and I cant believe that others would not appreciate that either. I personally do not have a problem with it. I would not have a problem with it of Godaddy or Dynadot or any other company promoted themselves as heavily - I think it would be great. The competition that would result would spur innovation in services and products for us, the consumers. But its not that way, not yet, maybe not ever. So I appreciate how people dont like it, dont want to see it, report it, and want to keep the forum "clean".

And it is hatred because Ive seen many others violate the rules on this forum since April 2006 - despite what my current account states. Yet I have not seen the crowd-hate against them that I see for @Rob Monster and IMO there is much more here than meets the eye. Its more than self-promotion. Something else is bothering all these people to spend their precious time waiting and pouncing on Rob anywhere he appears. I cant imagine having that luxury of time, energy to constantly pick on, harp on, pounce on someone. We teach our children not to bully and yet what I see here is borderline bully behavior. Its school yard behavior.

What am I saying, people should just REPORT the post, IGNORE the user they dont like, and move along but the fact that cant is quite fascinating and leads me to believe there is much more to it than general disagreement. Its sad. Congrats to all, instead of keeping the forum clean of violating posts they've actually muddied it up with hate that the rest of us have to step around.

Remember, there are two sides to every coin and there ARE those here who cant stand the hate posts that are left behind. I am one. I just havent been vocal until recently and I promise - I am done. I will spend less time here. Its not worth it. My time is precious and unlike others, who maybe somehow figured out how to reclaim time, I have not yet. :) IMO

PS- I do want to thank those who have pounced on Epik and Rob because if it werent for them the threads wouldnt have been constantly popular and intriguing for me to investigate last Summer/Fall and if not for that I would never have found an amazing registrar with great services and fantastic support - the way it should be everywhere. We are bombarded with promotion everywhere where go these days. You cant visit a website nowadays without getting nag screens to sign up, blasting videos that start immediately, and so on. Do I like it? No, I just move on. I cant understand for the life of me how people here cant just move on. Its beyond logical which is why I refer to is as Rob Derangement Syndrome. People feel COMPELLED to attack instead of quietly reporting the post and even IGNORING Rob and others they dont care for. With that, I am done. Have fun y'all.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/time-for-a-new-rule-and-to-enforce-it-diligently.1179999/
 
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Brad, with all due respect, no - thats not exactly it. Its the manner, the tone, of the complaint posts.... I tell my kids this every day, all day long it seems :-/ Its not WHAT they say to each other while disagreeing; its HOW they are saying it - their TONE.

In a nutshell, Rob make a promotion posts, people almost immediately pounce on him and throw spears, they also click report obviously, the Rob posts that violate the rules ARE eventually removed but what remains is................. the hate posts against Rob. That is what I cant stand, not the people who reported the violating posts but the hatred that remains is what I cant stand. Those posts remain, the other posts that a few dont like are removed and this forum is not truly being cleaned up.

Whomever is reporting Rob's posts and having them removed is doing their job to keep the forum honorable. I appreciate that and I cant believe that others would not appreciate that either. I personally do not have a problem with it. I would not have a problem with it of Godaddy or Dynadot or any other company promoted themselves as heavily - I think it would be great. The competition that would result would spur innovation in services and products for us, the consumers. But its not that way, not yet, maybe not ever. So I appreciate how people dont like it, dont want to see it, report it, and want to keep the forum "clean".

And it is hatred because Ive seen many others violate the rules on this forum since April 2006 - despite what my current account states. Yet I have not seen the crowd-hate against them that I see for @Rob Monster and IMO there is much more here than meets the eye. Its more than self-promotion. Something else is bothering all these people to spend their precious time waiting and pouncing on Rob anywhere he appears. I cant imagine having that luxury of time, energy to constantly pick on, harp on, pounce on someone. We teach our children not to bully and yet what I see here is borderline bully behavior. Its school yard behavior.

What am I saying, people should just REPORT the post, IGNORE the user they dont like, and move along but the fact that cant is quite fascinating and leads me to believe there is much more to it than general disagreement. Its sad. Congrats to all, instead of keeping the forum clean of violating posts they've actually muddied it up with hate that the rest of us have to step around.

Remember, there are two sides to every coin and there ARE those here who cant stand the hate posts that are left behind. I am one. I just havent been vocal until recently and I promise - I am done. I will spend less time here. Its not worth it. My time is precious and unlike others, who maybe somehow figured out how to reclaim time, I have not yet. :) IMO

PS- I do want to thank those who have pounced on Epik and Rob because if it werent for them the threads wouldnt have been constantly popular and intriguing for me to investigate last Summer/Fall and if not for that I would never have found an amazing registrar with great services and fantastic support - the way it should be everywhere. We are bombarded with promotion everywhere where go these days. You cant visit a website nowadays without getting nag screens to sign up, blasting videos that start immediately, and so on. Do I like it? No, I just move on. I cant understand for the life of me how people here cant just move on. Its beyond logical which is why I refer to is as Rob Derangement Syndrome. People feel COMPELLED to attack instead of quietly reporting the post and even IGNORING Rob and others they dont care for. With that, I am done. Have fun y'all.

Thanks for the balanced analysis.

I have endeavored to provide useful content. Sometimes I link to Epik projects or staff in the context of the response. That is true. There is utility in those posts.

My likes-to-posts ratio remains among the highest of any user on NamePros. Very occasionally the content gets dislikes but that is rare and almost always from the same folks.

Ironically, last month, when I replaced all commercial links in my signature with completely non-commercial daily Bible quotes, often as secular wisdom, like-to-post ratio slipped. Go figure.

I think I know the profile of the hardened skeptics. See Ephesians 6 for context.

I do appreciate the outpouring of support from folks who see through the (hive-minded) nonsense.
 
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Read the thread. Wow.

Namepros is not my property. I am a user. I play no official role in policing the fourm. I use the available tools to assist the community.

No matter how this plays out, I do view each contributor as equal regardless of background, language, etc.

I have no more or less respect for Rob than I do for other contributors on Namepros.

I am surprised that there are not more polls directed to at or about Namepros management and moderation.

That seems to be the true heart of concern. You could replace the name rob with other names and the issues could be the same.

"A true leader can always look above the clouds and see clarity." Me
 
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I remain hopeful that someday Johnn and I will be friends. I hold the same hope for Frank-Germany and JB Lions who are routinely antagonistic. here on NP.

All I ask in return is for a balanced narrative.

NamePros is a close knit community and it's disappointing to always read about so much negativity and hostility amongst some of the members here.

As a community we should try to help Rob and try to save him rather than try to tear him apart.

Rob has many good characteristics which some of us have come to know through our interactions with him as the CEO of Epik. He has gone out of his way on many occasions to help domainers both personally and through the many useful and innovative services that he has implemented through Epik.

But, as a human being he might have his own weaknesses like any other person and I believe that it's our duty as a community to help him overcome those weaknesses in a more positive and constructive way.

We all have to admit that Rob has done a great job with Epik and his derive as an entrepreneur in coming up with new ideas and projects has given new hopes to many domainers.

But if some people here think that Rob is a Monster because of succumbing to greed and racism, then he is our Monster and it is our responsibility as a community to save him and not to destroy him.

You all have tried everything else, maybe it's time to try the friendship route specially now that Rob has reached out to you all in a positive way.

He might listen to you all if you were to give him some advice as a friend rather than if you always come across as people who want to hurt him personally and professionally.

IMO
 
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From my perspective we have two issues here:

1. If a member here violated the rules then the member should be treated as any other members regardless of who she/he is. Keep giving warnings/infractions again and again showing that the Mods do not treat everyone equal.

2. It looks like there is not enough staffs to support a forum with this size.

Even there are two issues but it can be solved by having enough staffs online and every member should be treated equally.

Just look at this case for example. There are sections for advertising but he ignored the rules and keep promotes his company in too many discussion sections over and over again.
 
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From my perspective we have two issues here:

1. If a member here violated the rules then the member should be treated as any other members regardless of who she/he is. Keep giving warnings/infractions again and again showing that the Mods do not treat everyone equal.

2. It looks like there is not enough staffs to support a forum with this size.

Even there are two issues but it can be solved by having enough staffs online and every member should be treated equally.

Just look at this case for example. There are sections for advertising but he ignored the rules and keep promotes his company in too many discussion sections over and over again.

Yes, and you might ad promoting business and products, falsely. If I said I "built" my own VPN that inspires a certain belief in the product, especially if the person promotes them self constantly as a "good Christian man". If someone else came in here and made false claims that were provably false what would happen?

Anyway, I need to work. I just came here to sell a couple of domains and end up getting frustrated and wasting hours.
 
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