question Technical question to the outbound pros

[Trent1000]

My historical opening rate for an average 100 sent mails: 60%
Last 3 days opening rate for an average 100 sent mails: 5%

Using Gsuite, personal domain as email.

Am I got flagged?

Those of you who frequently doing outbound marketing, have you ever experienced similar situations? And if so, how did you overcome?

 

[cabotower]

my "lovely" total- 8.4/10. apparently my ip address is on 2 blacklists.only problem is that's not my ip address!

 

[Coinking]

Guys yesterday i sent outbound email and one of the potential enduser asking me monthly domain traffic but i just reg a day ago how can i send traffic stat?

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

Over a year ago... That's quite a grudge.

The email your "brother" sent me was very different, and was very much spam.

Now stop hi-jacking the OP's thread.

Nonsense, your attempt to call it "spam" is ridiculesss
Especially if you call it so...
Also, if you set my brother under quotation marks ("brother"), it does not make him unreal - it's just your crazy idea (that he doesn't exist) but anywayyy

Be sure, there is no grudge - just good will to explain a fundamental point to you.

It's a difference if you exclusively send one email to one selected recipient or if you send the same email at the same time to a plenty number of recipients.
I consider the first one as "outbound" - email and the second one as "spam" - email and I am sure I am not alone with this viewww

If you do not share it (this view), then I am sure you'll understand that I have no choice but to think that you're helping others in sending spam - emails...

BTWWW
No thread hi-jacking, it's all topic - related.

 

[Joe N]

Nonsense, your attempt to call it "spam" is ridiculesss
Especially if you call it so...
Also, if you set my brother under quotation marks ("brother"), it does not make him unreal - it's just your crazy idea (that he doesn't exist) but anywayyy

Be sure, there is no grudge - just good will to explain a fundamental point to you.

It's a difference if you exclusively send one email to one selected recipient or if you send the same email at the same time to a plenty number of recipients.
I consider the first one as "outbound" - email and the second one as "spam" - email and I am sure I am not alone with this viewww

If you do not share it (this view), then I am sure you'll understand that I have no choice but to think that you're helping others in sending spam - emails...

BTWWW
No thread hi-jacking, it's all topic - related.

Targeted, customized emails to relevant potential buyers who could legitimately benefit from a domain name is not spam.

Your "brother" sent me an email full of links to "his" profile page and to "his" ridiculously long domain names. I am not a relevant potential buyer. There is no way I could legitimately benefit from buying "his" names. That is not a targeted, thoughtful email. It's spam.

Tell us about some outbound sales you made, and then you can lecture me on outbound best practices.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

Targeted, customized emails to relevant potential buyers who could legitimately benefit from a domain name is not spam.

Your "brother" sent me an email full of links to "his" profile page and to "his" ridiculously long domain names. I am not a relevant potential buyer. There is no way I could legitimately benefit from buying "his" names. That is not a targeted, thoughtful email. It's spam.

It can naturally only be the sender who decides if the chosen recipient is a relevant potential buyer who could legitimately benefit from a domain name or not.
Not the recipient.
That's logically allways the case and will never be the other way around.

If the the recipient don't understand the reason why he got the outbound email he got, he don't have to call it a "spam email" - because in fact it is still a targeted, customized outbound email, otherwise the sender would not have chosen him as recipient...
I assume, in your case the reason was probably the fact that you are obviously a person who has to do with domains and the fact that you seem to prefer .com domains, it's as simple as that.
But you went totally exaggerating by calling it a "spam email".

As I said, I find it just ridiculous - especially when I consider the fact that you are a person who has to do with domaining...

BTW My brother doesn't even have a profile page, you are telling nonsense again but believe what you want, its your matrix.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

Tell us about some outbound sales you made, and then you can lecture me on outbound best practices.

Who is "us"? I am talking to you, it seems you just want to distract from my point by demanding some outbound - sales - examples from me... ...I won't get into it because that was and is not the point of our discussion and further this thread is not a thread about sales - no matter which type (outbound or inbound).

I was not lecturing you on outbound best practices - I more wrote about a basic point regarding what should be considered as outbound and what can be considered as spam - and for that I was using a matching example...

 

[Joe N]

I assume, in your case the reason was probably the fact that you are obviously a person who has to do with domains and the fact that you seem to prefer .com domains, it's as simple as that.

That's exactly the problem. There are over a million users on this forum alone who fit that description. That doesn't make me a targeted buyer. It makes me a spam recipient in a very large group of potential spam recipients.

I identified 4 end users in my message above. You're trying to justify why it's okay to randomly email any domain investor who likes .com. Please tell me you're not so daft that you can't see the difference....

 

[Joe N]

Who is "us"? I am talking to you, it seems you just want to distract from my point by demanding some outbound - sales - examples from me... ...I won't get into it because that was and is not the point of our discussion and further this thread is not a thread about sales - no matter which type (outbound or inbound).

I was not lecturing you on outbound best practices - I more wrote about a basic point regarding what should be considered as outbound and what can be considered as spam - and for that I was using a matching example...

The problem is that I'm speaking from a place of experience and some moderate success. You are not.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

That's exactly the problem. There are over a million users on this forum alone who fit that description. That doesn't make me a targeted buyer. It makes me a spam recipient in a very large group of potential spam recipients.

I identified 4 end users in my message above. You're trying to justify why it's okay to randomly email any domain investor who likes .com. Please tell me you're not so daft that you can't see the difference....

The only problem here is that you do not (or don't want to) understand.

The target of a domainer is to buy (invest in) / sell (make profit with) domains, also called domaining.
You are a domainer, your business - field is domaining.
This makes you to a targeted / potential buyer for other domainers.
That's all.
It's really as simple as that.

The decisive point that you still don't (want to) get, is, that the field of domaining is naturally related to domains in general while the field of, i. e., miami property management is (at least in context to domains) naturally just related to miami property management - domains.

So if you can't handle it positively when you, as a domainer, get a targeted outbound - email that is clearly related to your business - field (domaining), from another domainer, then I recommend you to leave the domaining industryyy

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Maybe the "miami property management" - business - field is more appropriate for you - but don't forget to consider the dramatical possibillity that you will get up to 4 "spam" - emails from domainers ...

... I think a bit sarcasm does good here as I am always in hope that you will (want to) understand.

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The fact that I have to explain this to you (no problem) is just the proof that you essentially don't know what you are talking (writing) about.
You give others "tips" where to send their targeted "outbound" - emails (that are clearly related to the recipients business - field, in this case "miami property management") but as soon as you get a targeted outbound - email (that is clearly related to your business - field "domaining"), you start calling it "spam"...

Really, come on - this is just contradictoryyy

The problem is that I'm speaking from a place of experience and some moderate success. You are not.

No, the problem is that you don't realize that the place of your experience is here and nowww
I know what I am talking (writing) about, in this case it's open criticism against your behaviour.
It's part of my success, to understand it and write about it and I am convinced that it can greaten your moderate success if you will (want to) understand.

Your "experience" / "success" has no real value as long as you won't publicly apologize for the "spam" - email - allegation you made publicly against another domainer (my brother) who in fact sent you nothing else than a targeted outbound email that was clearly related to your business filed "domaining"...

 

[Joe N]

The only problem here is that you do not (or don't want to) understand.

The target of a domainer is to buy (invest in) / sell (make profit with) domains, also called domaining.
You are a domainer, your business - field is domaining.
This makes you to a targeted / potential buyer for other domainers.
That's all.
It's really as simple as that.

The decisive point that you still don't (want to) get, is, that the field of domaining is naturally related to domains in general while the field of, i. e., miami property management is (at least in context to domains) naturally just related to miami property management - domains.

So if you can't handle it positively when you, as a domainer, get a targeted outbound - email that is clearly related to your business - field (domaining), from another domainer, then I recommend you to leave the domaining industryyy

+++

Maybe the "miami property management" - business - field is more appropriate for you - but don't forget to consider the dramatical possibillity that you will get up to 4 "spam" - emails from domainers ...

... I think a bit sarcasm does good here as I am always in hope that you will (want to) understand.

+++

The fact that I have to explain this to you (no problem) is just the proof that you essentially don't know what you are talking (writing) about.
You give others "tips" where to send their targeted "outbound" - emails (that are clearly related to the recipients business - field, in this case "miami property management") but as soon as you get a targeted outbound - email (that is clearly related to your business - field "domaining"), you start calling it "spam"...

Really, come on - this is just contradictoryyy




No, the problem is that you don't realize that the place of your experience is here and nowww
I know what I am talking (writing) about, in this case it's open criticism against your behaviour.
It's part of my success, to understand it and write about it and I am convinced that it can greaten your moderate success if you will (want to) understand.

Your "experience" / "success" has no real value as long as you won't publicly apologize for the "spam" - email - allegation you made publicly against another domainer (my brother) who in fact sent you nothing else than a targeted outbound email that was clearly related to your business filed "domaining"...

Buddy, your "brother" sending me that email is no different than the dozen phone calls per week I get from web development companies. SPAM. Using your logic, I should receive a thousand emails a week just like that one, and be completely okay with it.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

Buddy, your "brother" sending me that email is no different than the dozen phone calls per week I get from web development companies. SPAM. Using your logic, I should receive a thousand emails a week just like that one, and be completely okay with it.

"Joe", as long as you make a difference between outbound phone calls and the sharing of company names with the intention that others will send them outbound emails (that's what you did), you are just a hypocrite in my eyes.

Following your contradictory "logic", you can only be a SPAMMER who love to (help spreading) SPAM while trying to distract from it by accusing others.

The truth is, that in core, your 4 tips were nothing other than 4 (indirect) phone calls - the only difference is the content (offering domain / offering development) and the method of contact (email / phone).

Those who send outbound emails (or give related tips) should endure outbound emails the get from others.

Wake up...

 

[Joe N]

"Joe", as long as you make a difference between outbound phone calls and the sharing of company names with the intention that others will send them outbound emails (that's what you did), you are just a hypocrite in my eyes.

Following your contradictory "logic", you can only be a SPAMMER who love to (help spreading) SPAM while trying to distract from it by accusing others.

The truth is, that in core, your 4 tips were nothing other than 4 (indirect) phone calls - the only difference is the content (offering domain / offering development) and the method of contact (email / phone).

Those who send outbound emails (or give related tips) should endure outbound emails the get from others.

Wake up...

I'd keep trying to explain it to you, but I don't have the time or the crayons.

Have a good one.

 

[wizard]

Guys yesterday i sent outbound email and one of the potential enduser asking me monthly domain traffic but i just reg a day ago how can i send traffic stat?

Just say you don't have stats...

 

[Coinking]

Just say you don't have stats...

@wizard Check him reply, today i learn why seniors domainer say stick to .com

 

[wizard]

Yes thats why i prefer .com some .nets orgs etc are ok

@wizard Check him reply, today i learn why seniors domainer say stick to .com
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[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

I'd keep trying to explain it to you, but I don't have the time or the crayons.

Have a good one.

There is nothing that you need to explain to me in this context, I explained everything to you alreadyyy

As long as you won't take back your wrong claim that "my brother have sent you a spam email", that was in truth nothing else than an exclusive outbound email, I welcome it if you prefer to break up our conversation - it just shows that you have no further argument, your "no time / no crayons" - statement is just a pretexttt

 

[Trent1000]

@wizard Check him reply, today i learn why seniors domainer say stick to .com
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And not only the extension, but proper in-depth research of each one of your names before buying any of them. I can't emphasize enough how important research is.

Research is your best friend in this "game", without it you are on your own relying on pure luck.
Sure you can get lucky, but luck isn't a viable option on the long run.

 

[scanner2005]

Have you tried testing your emails with http://www.mail-tester.com/ ?

9/10 also.
I use a custom email with sendgrid API. I have good results, 60%-70% open rate but outbound marketing is not working good for me also...

 

[topdom]

No change for me. it was zero percent. Now still zero percent response rate. This is stupid because my offers are great deals for buyers, I offer them exactly what they need, and my prices are low. But it doesn't make any difference. One day they will pay 100 times more than my asking price, but until then I will be tired and have dropped those names long time ago. Ignorance is horror story of second half of my life. Indian webmasters are spamming me and get no replies, but it is obvious that I'm not looking for webdesigners and I buy domains to sell them.

 

[s.azis]

My historical opening rate for an average 100 sent mails: 60%
Last 3 days opening rate for an average 100 sent mails: 5%

Using Gsuite, personal domain as email.

Am I got flagged?

Those of you who frequently doing outbound marketing, have you ever experienced similar situations? And if so, how did you overcome?

have you tried this : https://www.gmass.co/inbox

 

[topdom]

What percent of your messages receive a response? For me it is zero. It has almost always been zero. Exceptions are obvious ones: I'm a customer, or I'm writing to someone who is a friend or colleague who I can see anytime anyway. So it looks like someone deletes interesting messages I receive before I read them. It is impossible not to be paranoid. Everything I say has a logic and is usually a little bit funny and mysterious and even provocative, and it would be hard not to reply them and not to say anything in response. Since people look at their smart phones for new messages 90 percent of their free time, they should be liking communicating with others, but when it is me on the other side they become something between a plant and a piece of rock: no reaction. And I can't check what the hell is really happening on the other side. No feedback.