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Did anyone involved in this thread ever get hold of Dongjin Kim?

He's squatting on over 1500 domains, and for the last year I have endlessly tried everything I can think of to contact him (short of getting on a plane to Korea) to buy one domain he has done NOTHING with for over 5 years.

I can't understand the logic. The point of squatting is to have people buy the domains for a far greater price which I'm willing to pay, but I can't raise any for of response.

I've even tried registering an official complaint with his domain provider but they state they can't do anything as he pays his renewal fees each year.

Did anyone get hold of him? If so, please can you help me? I just want to pay this guy for a single domain.
 
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Blaming someone not going to solve your problem. Specially when he is legally right, why threat him using your legal team.
 
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Here is the last line from my first post:

"Did anyone get hold of him? If so, please can you help me? I just want to pay this guy for a single domain."

Again, I did not create this thread. It has been going for years before I stumbled acorss it with the same questions, with people also asking if they were able to get hold of this guy who never responds etc.

Some people did offer suggestions of help, but others tried to lecture me about the freedoms of digital asset ownership which is just pointless given the question.
"I just want to pay this guy for a single domain."

If it's not listed for sale anywhere how do you know he wants to sell it?
It's his name and might not want to sell therefore he owes you no answer.
(Maybe why no response) :xf.wink:
 
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Not disagreeing. Money does talk. Might help if the guy would respond to someone trying to throw said money at him. I'm not offering $20 by the way. This is a decent commercial purchase and I even had our corporate lawyer (from a large well known firm) reach out but as with everyone else that has seemed to ever try to contact him, silence.
Why engaged corporate lawyers, to purchase the domain or something else? Do you forgot defense lawyers also exist?
 
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Here is the last line from my first post:

"Did anyone get hold of him? If so, please can you help me? I just want to pay this guy for a single domain."

Again, I did not create this thread. It has been going for years before I stumbled acorss it with the same questions, with people also asking if they were able to get hold of this guy who never responds etc.

Some people did offer suggestions of help, but others tried to lecture me about the freedoms of digital asset ownership which is just pointless given the question.
The best thing would be that you leave your full name and your contact details in this thread. Write which domain you want to buy and how much you offer! When "he" will read this he will probably contact you, imo.
 
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1) Called him a squatter. You claim to be an experience domain buyer but don't know the diff between squatting and investing.

2) You claimed he's lost a UDRP.

3) Have read court records b/c he's been sued.

And you still can't find him. I think you're full of sh*t.


ooh, I've hit a nerve. Keep your panties on. Not my fault you absolutely suck at researching things online (or better said, even reading a basic thread from the start).

You seem a little hard of understanding, so I explain another time just for you that the contact details listed via ICANN and the court filings are the same on his listings, which never get a response. In fact as far as I can tell, the only time he actually responds is UDRP's.
 
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Blaming someone not going to solve your problem. Specially when he is legally right, why threat him using your legal team.

English must not be your first language so I'll excuse the misinterpretation.

We used our corporate lawyers to make a formal approach of financial offer to buy the domain (so it looked like a legit offer, not some kid trying to buy it).

Calm down.
 
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you guys have too much time in your days for bullshit
 
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"I just want to pay this guy for a single domain."

If it's not listed for sale anywhere how do you know he wants to sell it?
It's his name and might not want to sell therefore he owes you no answer.
(Maybe why no response) :xf.wink:


That's my whole point. I don't think he does want to sell any of the 1500 he's sitting on and why he's been sued and had UDRP's against him.

I'm trying to figure out if anyone ever actually got a response from their own previous attempts which are documented in this threads and others online.

Which is EXACTLY the the question I first asked.
 
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English must not be your first language so I'll excuse the misinterpretation.

We used our corporate lawyers to make a formal approach of financial offer to buy the domain (so it looked like a legit offer, not some kid trying to buy it).

Calm down.
English must not be your first language so I'll excuse the misinterpretation.

We used our corporate lawyers to make a formal approach of financial offer to buy the domain (so it looked like a legit offer, not some kid trying to buy it).

Calm down.
English is not my first language but your blaming + engagement of lawyers indicating something else. Anyway thanks for clarification.
 
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why did you name your company
before owing the exact match domain?

why are you trying to buy a domain
that is not for sale?

why don't get another domain ?
and rename your company?

why don't you buy
toysrus.com?
 
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why did you name your company
before owing the exact match domain?

why are you trying to buy a domain
that is not for sale?

why don't get another domain ?
and rename your company?

why don't you buy
toysrus.com?


Fail. I own two companies, both of which have completely made up names and were easy to register for pennies.

This is a new side business and I noticed nothing has been done with the domain for years, so thought I'd try to buy it.

It's really not that difficult to understand. I mean, do you just sit on domains forever becuase you "can"? Or do you actually want to make a nice chunk of money from the investment?
 
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Fail. I own two companies, both of which have completely made up names and were easy to register for pennies.

This is a new side business and I noticed nothing has been done with the domain for years, so thought I'd try to buy it.

It's really not that difficult to understand. I mean, do you just sit on domains forever becuase you "can"? Or do you actually want to make a nice chunk of money from the investment?

there are different type of people on earth
you don't know how to contact the guy
but you know what he thinks / wants / expects ????

maybe he keeps them for his / her unborn grandchildren???
 
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Ugh, that's exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about. I remember there was this crazy story about baa.com

The British Aerospace Authority wanted it (they're the governing body for anything flight / airspace related in the UK) and some guy had snatched it and didn't do anything with it.

When things got serious, he hastily put up about a site about sheep ("baa" geddit?) and then demanded something stupid like £1m to release it. Massive legal battle ensued and the owner settled after legal bills started to mount so high he wanted rid of it.
 
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Not the only one in this business
Check out http://www.germany.com/ and weep.

My domain is not for sale but......

Send me an email to wh (at) germany.com, i will answer all emails :), but i will NOT answer any phatasy-mails from gmail/hotmail/live/outlook ... i expect mails from you from Firstname.Lastname(at) company-name.de/com ... You see my Name so if you expect an answer i expect your name and address.

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For a website that looks like it's designed in 1995 he makes the point that its not for sale. Then why even bother telling people they can email him. Do like the guy in the OP's situation and just ignore inquiries.
 
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My domain is not for sale but......

Send me an email to wh (at) germany.com, i will answer all emails :), but i will NOT answer any phatasy-mails from gmail/hotmail/live/outlook ... i expect mails from you from Firstname.Lastname(at) company-name.de/com ... You see my Name so if you expect an answer i expect your name and address.

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For a website that looks like it's designed in 1995 he makes the point that its not for sale. Then why even bother telling people they can email him. Do like the guy in the OP's situation and just ignore inquiries.


@Kate was pointing out that there are crazy people just sitting on websites/domains. The guy I'm talking about is sitting on 1500+ domains.
 
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which one are you trying to buy? ill email him for you.
 
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Actually, my personal opinion is that you should't be able to indefinitely sit on exclusively owned intellectual property, especially given that there's a finite number of domains.

But that is just your personal opinion. Unfortunately, for you, the real world doesn't work like that. That guy is perfectly entitled to do whatever he wants to do with HIS domains. You also ruffled quite a few feathers here by calling us squatters. It's not surprising there appear to be a lot of angry posts from you (and I haven't got to the end of the thread yet), because some of the members have pushed back, seriously or humorously.

I'm pretty sure that I've encountered this guy too from the lack of responses you are complaining about here. After the second email. I usually give up and look for another domain. Which would be my advice to you.

There are millions upon millions of other domains you could buy apart from this one. And even more, unregistered. Pray tell, why is it you MUST have THIS particular domain. You might even be able to register a similar domain with a smart index or suffix. We don't know the domain. But the prefix THE and the suffix CO comes to mind. But of course it depends on the domain. Maybe the .NET or .CO are available to register. I don't see why you have been bearing this grudge for 5 years (If I understood you correctly). It's about time you move on with your life, and get an alternative domain. Good SEO will still probably take you to the top of the search rankings. I think that would be a much better use of your time, with another domain.

Maybe your $2000 offer is way to low for him to be interested. If it was me, I wouldn't get excited about a $2K offer on some of my domains. It's small potatoes in today's world. We don't know the domain, so we cannot advise you. Maybe if you offered $50,000 (take your pick on the price). You might get a response. But I would use a completely different email address than the one you have been using with a different name also.

Maybe the guy is waiting for one of the big fish, like GoDaddy to buy his complete portfolio for millions of dollars. Perhaps he is reclusive BECAUSE he has had UDRP cases in the past. We can only speculate, why he hasn't responded.

Perhaps he's making a sh*t load of money from the domain from parking it with all the leads your business is sending to the domain? We don't know. As I said. We can only speculate.

He might be, as you say, "Crazy to be sitting on 1500 domains". It's a free world. Fortunately.
 
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which one are you trying to buy? ill email him for you.

Thanks for the offer, much appreciated but I'd prefer to keep the details private. All his contact details are on the first page of this thread, so if you have luck contacting him, please let me know and I'll pay a finder's fee.
 
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why did you name your company
before owing the exact match domain?

why are you trying to buy a domain
that is not for sale?

why don't get another domain ?
and rename your company?

why don't you buy
toysrus.com?

Renaming a company is not really that difficult to do.
 
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But that is just your personal opinion. Unfortunately, for you, the real world doesn't work like that. That guy is perfectly entitled to do whatever he wants to do with HIS domains. You also ruffled quite a few feathers here by calling us squatters. It's not surprising there appear to be a lot of angry posts from you (and I haven't got to the end of the thread yet), because some of the members have pushed back, seriously or humorously.

I'm pretty sure that I've encountered this guy too from the lack of responses you are complaining about here. After the second email. I usually give up and look for another domain. Which would be my advice to you.

There are millions upon millions of other domains you could buy apart from this one. And even more, unregistered. Pray tell, why is it you MUST have THIS particular domain. You might even be able to register a similar domain with a smart index or suffix. We don't know the domain. But the prefix THE and the suffix CO comes to mind. But of course it depends on the domain. Maybe the .NET or .CO are available to register. I don't see why you have been bearing this grudge for 5 years (If I understood you correctly). It's about time you move on with your life, and get an alternative domain. Good SEO will still probably take you to the top of the search rankings. I think that would be a much better use of your time, with another domain.

Maybe your $2000 offer is way to low for him to be interested. If it was me, I wouldn't get excited about a $2K offer on some of my domains. It's small potatoes in today's world. We don't know the domain, so we cannot advise you. Maybe if you offered $50,000 (take your pick on the price). You might get a response. But I would use a completely different email address than the one you have been using with a different name also.

Maybe the guy is waiting for one of the big fish, like GoDaddy to buy his complete portfolio for millions of dollars. Perhaps he is reclusive BECAUSE he has had UDRP cases in the past. We can only speculate, why he hasn't responded.

Firstly, who exactly did I call a squatter?

I'll tell you: I've only been talking about one person in this thread and he has been sued for it and the subject of more than one UDRP, and given he lost more than one of those cases, I think you need to realize he was, in fact, a squatter.

Secondly, I think the reason you (and several others) got their knickers in a twist becuase you read the thread title and went off the hadle.

Well guess what?

I DIDN'T CREAT THIS THREAD OR IT'S TITLE.

I stumbled across this thread (and many others regarding this same person) while searching for a way to get in contact with him.

instead, you read the thread title, and started mashing you keys, suggesting that I blanket called everyone squatters. I didn't, I called this guy a squatter becuase that's exactly what he is.

So please don't post utter BS like I "ruffled feathers by calling you squatters", because I didn't.

This guy is also sitting on 1500+ domains and never responds to anyone, but you'd know that if you actually read the thread.

I agree that it's probably futile as I've offered substantially more than $2k and it's clear (including talking to and seeing people's reaction in this thread) that some people can't be logically reasoned with so there's not much point.

The reason I wanted this name in particular is that A) it's adjacent to both my current companies in name and B) nothing is being done with it and C) why not try to buy a domain that someone isn't using and hasn;t ever had a site associated with it or even been used as a holding page.

My post (not my thread remember) was really a last ditch effort to see if anyone of the previous complainers over the years in this thread managed to get in touch with him, and if so, could they help.

Instead, I got a bunch of people flying off the handle for no good reason other than they have poor reading and comprehension skills.

I even had one guy suggest I had set my lawyers on him for refusing to sell me the website but I had to "enlighten" him that we made an official approach via a lawfirm to let him know we were serious.
 
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Renaming a company is not really that difficult to do.

Yeah, it's a little different when you've built a successful brand with more than just local name recognition. I'm both online and brick and mortar for each of my companies.

The cost to rebrand/rename would dwarf the cost of a two name domain.
 
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Ok. There no educating idiots. I'm thin skinned. I don't need to be abused when I was trying to genuinely help.
 
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