Has Google Killed GEO and KEYWORD Domains

[Aussiejob]

Concerned, Just had a end user keen as, wanting to buy my GEO domain that match their business exactly with keywords for mid $x,xxx.

UNTIL they got their SEO guys involved who told the buyer, GEO and Keyword domains no longer are any benefit to a sites ranking, it's now only about content. They told the buyer they would be wasting their money.

As a newby, I did not really know how to respond, so I asked the question on a SEO forum! And I got the same answer that Domains no longer have any benefit to page ranking, it's now all about content.
The SEO Forum also added that Brandable Domains are now only worth investing in.

Is there any truth in any of this.

Anybody help here, how do I respond to the buyer? to save this deal.

Appreciate your help.

 

[forge]

Once the SEO or "Web Guy" gets involved the deal is dead...

There are a litany of reasons why this happens, seek previous "web guy" posts.

This is SO true. I had a deal in the bag, even the in-house folks were gearing to change business cards (I was cc'ed by email!) but once I got on the phone with their "IT guy" his attitude was so atrocious that everything went teats up. Only 'crickets'.

 

[JB Lions]

There is less emphasis on the keywords in the domain with Google but that affected more of this type of stuff:

2012
"Minor weather report: small upcoming Google algo change will reduce low-quality "exact-match" domains in search results."

Low quality. You can get an exact match domain, build a quality site and rank just fine on page 1, first result etc.

I picked some random major keywords:

shoes
hotels
art
car parts
fabric
perfume
soccer

Page 1 all of them, most of them the #1 spot. Shoes.com, Hotels.com, Fabric.com etc, rank for that keyword just fine.

How about a super niche site, let's take skookum dolls. #2 result in Google, #1 result in MSN.

That's just Google. They are the biggest in free search but there is Yahoo/MSN. There is offline marketing, PPC, social media, just having an exact match is usually easy to remember, describing exactly what your site is about etc. Many more reasons.

So if somebody replies like they did in the first post, you can literally be honest with them and use some of the examples above. I can find those type of examples all day long. Just go right to the source, Google, and look.

 

[Mr. Deleted]

Prior posts contained sound info...giggle has stiff competition coming from around the corner from more than one source. The seo 'experts' that gave the bad advice don't have a clue.

I assume you meant Google, but I like that name, Giggle. But Giggle.com's stores are closing. That may open it up for anew buyer.

 

[obocar]

Anyone want to get rid of their geo domains, let me know. I like collecting them.

 

[obocar]

https://www.namepros.com/threads/buying-geo-names.997562/

 

[obocar]

GEO is not dead by any means

I hear people who do websites and seo tell me that geo domains don't help rank or if it does, it's still insignificant. I think 2014 is when google made that big change.

The contemt is what helps seo.

 

[lock]

There are still banner farms in engine results. If a business can't see the advantage of a generic name perhaps they will take more notice when their opposition buys it. Build a splash page yourself and rank it ask if they will buy your inquiry.

 

[nicholas]

GEO, EM/PM, brandables, etc. are still good for, well, branding. Otherwise, SEO is now about how well a site is optimized to answer the searcher's question, intent, or desired solution. The name is secondary.

The point is for people not to rely on the domains alone for search engine rankings, but treat it as one of many factors that can entice your customer as one of many steps to ultimately get you the sale. You still have to get all the other elements in place (relevance, good practices, good content, good visuals, etc.)

For example, owning cars.com, mouse.com or laptop.com is great, left alone, and will definitely get you good type-in traffic income.

But owning asdfghjkl.xyz will be far more valuable if it is properly optimized for something that brings in the right traffic, converts and sells.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

lol ask them if they trust their SEO guys? ask them if a domain's "power" could put these SEO employees "out of a job" or at the very least makes the boss say "what do I pay you for?" wouldn't it be in the best interest to protect their SEO jobs by telling the boss "you don't need a Geo Domain." because the assumption is that "you've got me! your SEO guy!"

and then you mention all the big domain sales for geo's like

JacksonHole.com
Manhattan.com
etc etc.

As a boss do you trust that a good Geo domain will be good for you business? or the SEO guy who has to feed his wife and kids and can't lose his SEO job?

tell him sometimes you gotta "read between the lines" and think logical.

If a good domain eliminates some if not most of the work for the SEO guys. then what's the point in "having" an SEO guy?


tell them too that Amazon and microsoft and johnson and johson still owns tens of thousands of domains.

if those domains were no longer "good" then why do they still own them?

answer? Because it's STILL good to own good domains.

you don't have to believe or trust me. Trust the fact that these companies still own that many domains.

 

[EZPZYO]

 

[IMEZI]

GEO and KEYWORD will only usefull for those who actually live on the very same geo position and they also did their business precisely like the keyword. That is both ultimate factor you should keep on your mind. If your domain buyer were just like i described above then it will perfect. Since you didnt mention any brand related within you could even say that you could offer this domain name to his/her competitor within the same geo region :D

 

[Cdomains]

Not fully true, If your domain rank in 1st page or 2nd page for the keyword "Newyork roof repair" and your domain is Newyorkroofrepair.com . Then Google Bold your domain for matching and also people mentality is such that, they search for "Newyork roof repair" and your domain have same keyword, they click your domain more likely than others. In other word, GEO domain will have High CTR(click through rate) compare to others.

I agree, this is a big factor in value.

 

[pocakka1]

S.E.O = Spam Everyone Online
~
The best seo is called Adsense

I think you're thinking of the Adwords, not Adsense.

 

[Cannuck]

Albeit hosting an ultra smart search algorithm, Google (com) is simply a domain.

"On September 29, 2015, a former Google employee Sanmay Ved managed to buy the Google domain and gain full webmaster control."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Domains

 

[xynames]

The keyword in the domain URL still counts towards SEO. Anyway, this is an endless debate. Here is one perspective:
https://www.hobo-web.co.uk/search-engine-friendly-urls/

The guys who have exact match domains, and real word domains, will tell you that this is the way to go, and the ones who have the oddball names, the misspelled name domains, will tell you that what they are selling will work just as well.

What I do know is that I have the exact match domains, the real word domains, the ones that mean something, and I am getting offers daily and selling regularly at no lower than four figure (with very few exceptions) and sometimes five figure prices. Plus, when I pick a domain name for my own online businesses, I look for real words, EMDs if possible.

When someone contacts me about a real word or EMD domain I am in a position of power to quote comparables and explain why my domain is worth so much. I don't really see how I can in good faith argue the high value of a made up word domain, that could just as easily be replaced with another made up word domain, that has no relevance or relationship to the intended business other than being supposedly brandable.

A good salesman may sell snow to the Eskimos, but I know what I have here! and don't have to employ subterfuge to sell my domains. With that honest straightforward approach, Aussiejob, you should be able to convince your buyer that you have what he needs. Quoting some comparables is a good idea too.

 

[briguy]

Isn't google like a woman..
Once you begin to understand them a little..
they change?

Seriously...I gave up trying to rank in google, I been using/relying on "Social Media"..

 

[obocar]

Isn't google like a woman..
Once you begin to understand them a little..
they change?

Seriously...I gave up trying to rank in google, I been using/relying on "Social Media"..

Lol

 

[Kuffy]

Note - they now talk about search engine friendly URLs. The domain name is just one part - sub-domains, directories, html files, and image files all count. In fact the domain name may be the least important of these at the moment.

 

[xynames]

Search engine friendly URLs, yes - I utilize those in all my forums and websites.

This URL is friendly, with the section "has-google-killed-geo-and-keyword-domains"

 

[obocar]

The keyword in the domain URL still counts towards SEO. Anyway, this is an endless debate. Here is one perspective:
https://www.hobo-web.co.uk/search-engine-friendly-urls/

The guys who have exact match domains, and real word domains, will tell you that this is the way to go, and the ones who have the oddball names, the misspelled name domains, will tell you that what they are selling will work just as well.

What I do know is that I have the exact match domains, the real word domains, the ones that mean something, and I am getting offers daily and selling regularly at no lower than four figure (with very few exceptions) and sometimes five figure prices. Plus, when I pick a domain name for my own online businesses, I look for real words, EMDs if possible.

When someone contacts me about a real word or EMD domain I am in a position of power to quote comparables and explain why my domain is worth so much. I don't really see how I can in good faith argue the high value of a made up word domain, that could just as easily be replaced with another made up word domain, that has no relevance or relationship to the intended business other than being supposedly brandable.

A good salesman may sell snow to the Eskimos, but I know what I have here! and don't have to employ subterfuge to sell my domains. With that honest straightforward approach, Aussiejob, you should be able to convince your buyer that you have what he needs. Quoting some comparables is a good idea too.

To find out if seo really works for city domain, type in city + profession or profession + city into your browser. If it is a business site, then you type in same word into google search.
How many times to you see that site rank top of the page?

There are other factors such as age of the domain and whether the site has been penalized by google. But for the most part, the method can tell you how crucial is the keyword for seo.

 

[Mr. Deleted]

Albeit hosting an ultra smart search algorithm, Google (com) is simply a domain.

"On September 29, 2015, a former Google employee Sanmay Ved managed to buy the Google domain and gain full webmaster control."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Domains

its called bs. You can not buy a domain that is not dropped, and you certainly can not go to domains.google.com, a domain that is already resolving and register said domain name. It was just a short glitch with the registry.

 

[Armageddon]

Google its a stupid thing & not important ..not important MOZ DA or PA or BY BYE other acronyms
Important is content of a website & simple domain names don't have need about this stupid PA PA & BY BYE

 

[xynames]

Google its a stupid thing & not important ..not important MOZ DA or PA or BY BYE other acronyms
Important is content of a website & simple domain names don't have need about this stupid PA PA & BY BYE

Uhhhh....

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