How did Efty go from 50k names to 1 million in 3 months

[toughdomains]

Just saw this post from efty saying they just hit a million names in their system


my question is how do you go from ~50k names in May 2017
https://twitter.com/eftycom/status/870159754399698945

to over 1 million in august?
https://www.domaininvesting.com/efty-hits-1-million-milestone/

whois data says 23k names on their name servers
http://whois.domaintools.com/eftydns.com

If you have a hypothetical 5,000 users that means every user would have had to load average of 200 names. We have data on hundreds of users with the average # of names per user under 50 names

 

[alcy]

oh non please please do not let this be another domain scandal.

I'm not even finished reading all the other ones yet!

 

[toughdomains]

oh non please please do not let this be another domain scandal.

I'm not even finished reading all the other ones yet!

Im hoping a reputable blogger and blogs promoting the news like domaininvesting in addition to their connection to domainsherpa would not be putting out fake news...simply asking how they arrived at that number....seems high

 

[atinc]

Tough Domains you are also providing a similar service like EFTY right?

I don`t care if the numbers are right or wrong, I enjoy their landing pages.

I can say that their marketplace is not the best, well that`s clear from the spam offers I receive on their platform.

But anyhow I like to use their free landers.

 

[alcy]

Tough Domains you are also providing a similar service like EFTY right?

I don`t care if the numbers are right or wrong, I enjoy their landing pages.

I can say that their marketplace is not the best, well that`s clear from the spam offers I receive on their platform.

But anyhow I like to use their free landers.

its importnat to care about truth imo

p.s. are you sure efty is free?

 

[JB Lions]

Just saw this post from efty saying they just hit a million names in their system


my question is how do you go from ~50k names in May 2017
https://twitter.com/eftycom/status/870159754399698945

to over 1 million in august?
https://www.domaininvesting.com/efty-hits-1-million-milestone/

whois data says 23k names on their name servers
http://whois.domaintools.com/eftydns.com

If you have a hypothetical 5,000 users that means every user would have had to load average of 200 names. We have data on hundreds of users with the average # of names per user under 50 names

200 names average doesn't seem high, many have lots more. Those with low reg numbers probably wouldn't use something like this.

Marketing, positive reviews, owner response etc. can help the numbers.

Also, from a marketing perspective, and since you're a competitor, a few of your posts about them aren't a good look, comes across as hating a bit. Just build your product the best you can.

 

[toughdomains]

Tough Domains you are also providing a similar service like EFTY right?

I don`t care if the numbers are right or wrong, I enjoy their landing pages.

I can say that their marketplace is not the best, well that`s clear from the spam offers I receive on their platform.

But anyhow I like to use their free landers.

yes we are providing a similar service plus much more. and not sure what you mean by free. none of the plans they offer are free after 30 days.

 

[toughdomains]

200 names average doesn't seem high, many have lots more. Those with low reg numbers probably wouldn't use something like this.

Marketing, positive reviews, owner response etc. can help the numbers.

Also, from a marketing perspective, and since you're a competitor, a few of your posts about them aren't a good look, comes across as hating a bit. Just build your product the best you can.

we have a superior product with offerings not available anywhere else. we are currently reviewing our product with some of the largest portfolio holders do to our larger plan offers. this is not about us liking or hating anyone or any service.... its simply discussing the 1 million name claim.

 

[toughdomains]

its importnat to care about truth imo

p.s. are you sure efty is free?

agreed truth is important....if you misrepresent or inflate one thing what else are you inflating? offers received? sales prices etc?

 

[alcy]

200 names average doesn't seem high, many have lots more. Those with low reg numbers probably wouldn't use something like this.

Marketing, positive reviews, owner response etc. can help the numbers.

Also, from a marketing perspective, and since you're a competitor, a few of your posts about them aren't a good look, comes across as hating a bit. Just build your product the best you can.

well you know.. nobody is accussing anybody of anything. until they are proven guilty.

its just as important to not accuse anyone without proof as it is to accuse those proven guilty. imo

 

[JB Lions]

well you know.. nobody is accussing anybody of anything. until they are proven guilty.

its just as important to not accuse anyone without proof as it is to accuse those proven guilty. imo

What?

agreed truth is important....if you misrepresent or inflate one thing what else are you inflating? offers received? sales prices etc?

Before starting a thread here, did you pick up a phone, email them and ask?

 

[Furquan]

May be they are counting all the domain which even got expired or left to there market.

 

[JB Lions]

simply a discussion about 1 mil names based on public data.

Look at your first post. Screenshot of 50,000 domains but then you post - "whois data says 23k names on their name servers"

So obviously more than their name servers, based on your post.

 

[Nick]

Look at your first post. Screenshot of 50,000 domains but then you post - "whois data says 23k names on their name servers"

So obviously more than their name servers, based on your post.

Right.

whois data says 23k names on their name servers
http://whois.domaintools.com/eftydns.com

You know these tools are not definitive, right? As in, there is usually more than what their results show. Why is it impossible that they have 1,000,000 on their platform? Because yours doesn't?

 

[alcy]

What?



Before starting a thread here, did you pick up a phone, email them and ask?

is not good signs if you the only one round who don't get something matey

 

[Doron Vermaat]

Hi everyone. We currently have 1M+ domain names under management at Efty (which is the number of domain names Efty users are managing in their Efty accounts and not the number of domain names in our zone file). If you read our tweets or the article on DomainInvesting.com it also states clearly we're talking about domains that have been added to our platform, not the name servers. The number of domain names that are using our For-Sale landing pages (aka using our name-server) is around 140,000 at the moment and anybody can easily access this numbers and those of similar/competing services since it's publicly available through services like https://www.domainiq.com/nameserver?eftydns.com or https://dns.link/eftydns.com so it would be kinda silly if we would exaggerate or make up numbers.

Transparency is very important to us so if this wasn't clear to some I would like to apologize.

 

[JB Lions]

is not good signs if you the only one round who don't get something matey

It's not a good sign when you don't realize you're the one struggling. Reread the thread slowly.

 

[alcy]

It's not a good sign when you don't realize you're the one struggling. Reread the thread slowly.

its all good. you can relax. case solved. everyone happy. go home show over. ciao

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Hi everyone. We currently have 1M+ domain names under management at Efty (which is the number of domain names Efty users are managing in their Efty accounts and not the number of domain names in our zone file).

Thanks for chiming in before this snowballed. Appreciate the transparency.

Does the 1M+ include expired domains as well? IE Expired domains domainer's didn't remove from their Efty cockpit? Doesn't really matter - just wondering.

 

[Arca]

If you read their tweets, they are clearly talking about names added to the platform, not names using their nameservers.

A significant discrepancy in those number is not unusual. Afternic has an astounding 12,000,000+ names on their platform, and less than 200,000 using their nameservers.

You are obviously just trying to challenge the credibility of a competitor as a way of promoting your own competing service. I've seen you hijack efty discussion threads to promote your own service a number of times here on NP in the past.

 

[atinc]

its importnat to care about truth imo

p.s. are you sure efty is free?

yes we are providing a similar service plus much more. and not sure what you mean by free. none of the plans they offer are free after 30 days.

Since when?

I don`t remember paying them LOL

Update: Yes I did pay them - just checked it out on cockpit.

It`s relatively a small amount comparing with Sedo and others

I still love their Landers LOL

 

[jideofor]

its importnat to care about truth imo

p.s. are you sure efty is free?

Efty is not free and that is why i never bothered to list there.

 

[LarryDomain]

Well you did a good job. Cuz you caught my attention and I am looking at your website toughdomains.com.

*clap* *clap*

 

[frank-germany]

200 names average doesn't seem high, many have lots more. Those with low reg numbers probably wouldn't use something like this.

Marketing, positive reviews, owner response etc. can help the numbers.

Also, from a marketing perspective, and since you're a competitor, a few of your posts about them aren't a good look, comes across as hating a bit. Just build your product the best you can.

I can't see anybody hating.. before your post

 

[JB Lions]

I can't see anybody hating.. before your post

You must have missed the very first post, and his other posts about efty.