LLLL.org and LLLL.biz on a rise

[Domain Monk]

Looks like the both are in good rise according chaomi ....after long time

 

[Mahogany]

Some sales today via Chaomi:

ALL ARE RANDOMS, WITHOUT REPEATERS!!
jfwm.biz ---- $29.60 ---- 2016-02-22 09:02
lcxy.biz ---- $28.84 ---- 2016-02-22 23:06
ljgb.biz ---- $27.61 ---- 2016-02-22 23:06

Looking good for all you folks who didn't sell all your .biz chips. Also, looks good for .info chips....

No comment on you org chip holders. I didn't buy any but wish you well!! Happy to see them get a boost too!

 

[Urchin]

is LLLL.org still around $25? Does anyone think this value could rise over the coming year?

Yes! As long as the Chinese keep buying and trading, you will see all LLLL Tld's go up in value. Right now though, the .co LLL is all the rage. The internet is still in it's infantsy, 90% of this planet is either on dial-up or has no internet at all. I have several LLLL .org's and trust me, they will be going up up up in the next 6 months to a year. Hang in there buddy your LLLL .org will pay off for you!

Good Luck
Urchin

 

[StoneRoses]

Some sales today via Chaomi:

ALL ARE RANDOMS, WITHOUT REPEATERS!!
jfwm.biz ---- $29.60 ---- 2016-02-22 09:02
lcxy.biz ---- $28.84 ---- 2016-02-22 23:06
ljgb.biz ---- $27.61 ---- 2016-02-22 23:06

Looking good for all you folks who didn't sell all your .biz chips. Also, looks good for .info chips....

No comment on you org chip holders. I didn't buy any but wish you well!! Happy to see them get a boost too!

Decent prices at this stage for non repeaters.

Thanks for sharing

 

[krx]

Most of the domains that sell are already at Chinese registrars but it's also possible that chaomi includes the sales you mentioned.


Yes, its not the average of the last day for example or something like that, it moves along with the latest few sales but if dddd.org suddenly sells for $500 the chart won't move to $500 until more sales can back this up.

I was told that the prices on chaomi are the lowest BIN prices listed for that category. But I think everybody's just guessing what these numbers really mean.

 

[Recons.Com]

Chaomi is as mysterious, as anything oriental can be )

They show + in red, - in green
The numbers can be down from your observation, but it might still say up and vice versa. No clue where their starting points are

Also, interesting that, xyz claims to be strong in China, yet Chaomi ignores it, while tracking .top, .wang, .cc...

 

[TRY]

Chaomi is as mysterious, as anything oriental can be )

They show + in red, - in green
The numbers can be down from your observation, but it might still say up and vice versa. No clue where their starting points are

Also, interesting that, xyz claims to be strong in China, yet Chaomi ignores it, while tracking .top, .wang, .cc...

The 2 lines in the graph represent info from their 2 sources.

 

[silgro12]

Why stats are not affecting market here on namepros, thats strange

 

[tha-she]

Why stats are not affecting market here on namepros, thats strange

Cause namepros is disregarding everything right now,almost no buyers around just sellers....., if you ever buy on here now is the time to do so.. instead of selling lol....

 

[korganian]

But where do we sell to get the higher prices?

 

[silgro12]

Even on wechat and qq people want domains for low prices, and selling on chinese marketplaces is so complicated if you dont know chinese

 

[tha-she]

Sometimes everything pauses.... lowballers took over it seems ... i think everything will resume eventually, especially with the 5L.com buyout going on...

 

[martworld]

But where do we sell to get the higher prices?

Yes, same question. Market prices have increased but its not reflecting here on namepros marketplace. For example, yesterday, 1 auction of 5 LLLL.biz ended with $70 final price or $14 per domain but the current market price of LLLL.biz is in the range of $30-$35.

Therefore, whats the advantage of price appreciation when we can't sell at the market rates.

 

[Recons.Com]

There is no readily available liquidity between Western and Chinese markets. Whoever undertakes to provide such a "liquidity" does it on the following basis:

a) enough discount worth the trouble of buying, transferring to Chinese registrars, selling, covering risk of fluctuations, profit;
b) using Chinese prices as indicators for values and buying considerably below hoping that eventually he will get offers covering costs, risk of fluctuation, profit.

So when you see Chaomi price of $30 and NP price of $14, the $16 is how much that trouble is valued at (50% of Chinese price, but still small in absolute number). For LLLL.com chips, for example, it can be $150-300 per name (large in absolute number, but only around 10% of Chinese price to reflect risks of fluctuation and % profit).

 

[krx]

There is no readily available liquidity between Western and Chinese markets. Whoever undertakes to provide such a "liquidity" does it on the following basis:

a) enough discount worth the trouble of buying, transferring to Chinese registrars, selling, covering risk of fluctuations, profit;
b) using Chinese prices as indicators for values and buying considerably below hoping that eventually he will get offers covering costs, risk of fluctuation, profit.

So when you see Chaomi price of $30 and NP price of $14, the $16 is how much that trouble is valued at (50% of Chinese price, but still small in absolute number). For LLLL.com chips, for example, it can be $150-300 per name (large in absolute number, but only around 10% of Chinese price to reflect risks of fluctuation and % profit).

Also prices on chaomi, namebio, etc, reflect 15-20% commission. Namepros sales are commission free so always lower than the marketplaces.

 

[TRY]

For some of the transactions I noticed the following..
Bulk purchases?
The ones that share the Same ID, purchase time, and price,.... if I were to guess I would assume these were Bulk purchases, so of course the price would be a bit lower on average than if sold individually. I'm just taking my best guess just by looking at the numbers. I'm sure Chaomi and other Chinese speaking name pro members can explain.

 

[Samujjal]

That is Namebio specific. Also, even for NB, that would include V, so still would not be the same as "chips".

The new code to find chips in Namebio is the letter P.
So if you wanna search 4L Chips.. Than it would be PPPP..3L Chips = PPP..& so on

 

[Recons.Com]

The new code to find chips in Namebio is the letter P.
So if you wanna search 4L Chips.. Than it would be PPPP..3L Chips = PPP..& so on

Yeah, I know ) It still does not track any sales below $100 though and LLLL.org floor prices have been in $20-50 range.

 

[Samujjal]

QUOTE="Recons.Com, post: 5344389, member: 983373"]Yeah, I know ) It still does not track any sales below $100 though and LLLL.org floor prices have been in $20-50 range.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's a fact..

 

[Recons.Com]

decent "names" (alphabet A-Z only) number ~ 2mil (in ANY extension)

so we just saw .xyz vault over .biz

.top .win .bid .red .ren will also surpass .biz in the mad rush

.info .org .net destined to slowly gravitate to UNDER 3mil

does anybody here know why three-letter extensions RULE ?

Number of regs in the "land grab" era is not the only criteria, especially if pricing/promos etc. are different.

.xyz has done many giveaways, .biz hasn't.

And, yes, I do think 3 letters is important. If LL.com sells for $1M and LLL.com sells for $25K, why the lengths to the right of the dot should not matter?

.top, win and others might surpass .biz in number of regs, but not in the brand value. And .biz, losing to com by wide margin, is/will be still much better than any of those...

 

[TRY]

But where do we sell to get the higher prices?

Maybe a better question would be not where but when?

 

[Domain Monk]

Current price is around ,25 each for biz

 

[Domain Galleria]

Everyone on NP is cheap. :P ---- Including me. :P

LOL

 

[GBA]

Also prices on chaomi, namebio, etc, reflect 15-20% commission. Namepros sales are commission free so always lower than the marketplaces.

Do you mean sale figures on Namebio/chaomi include the marketplace comissions, so they are not netto sales?

 

[krx]

Do you mean sale figures on Namebio/chaomi include the marketplace comissions, so they are not netto sales?

Yes, exactly, those prices include commissions. Namepros prices are based on net.

 

[N-A]

Yes, exactly, those prices include commissions. Namepros prices are based on net.

This can't be true if the seller is paying fees which they're supposed to (although lower than most commissions, it's still deducted from net).