discuss .MOBI General Discussion

[Jacks86]

Due to the arguments that arose a couple weeks ago because of the past .mobi threads, I have decided to close those down and just have a common .Mobi thread. No lists will be posted by myself, no "count down", none of that because it offends domainers on here. So if your interested in seeing availability, please pm me. Otherwise lets just talk generally about .mobi.

 

[hugegrowth]

I didn't get into the LLL and NNNN .mobi buying myself, but I can see them re-selling for $10 and up within the year, not bad if you've regged them for $1.49. Again, low risk for possible 10x or higher gain. It is the year 2016, and we've seen all kinds of extensions take off in the last months due to low supply of short number and letter domains. What happened with .mobi years ago doesn't matter right now with a hot domain market.

 

[JB Lions]

I didn't get into the LLL and NNNN .mobi buying myself, but I can see them re-selling for $10 and up within the year, not bad if you've regged them for $1.49. Again, low risk for possible 10x or higher gain. It is the year 2016, and we've seen all kinds of extensions take off in the last months due to low supply of short number and letter domains. What happened with .mobi years ago doesn't matter right now with a hot domain market.

Hot domain market, but 0 reported sales this month, does that equal a hot .mobi market to you? A repeating 3 number .mobi only going up to $255 is hot? For something to be hot, wouldn't that be backed by actual sales?

 

[hugegrowth]

An overall hot domain market, I'm not saying the .mobi market is hot right now. Many extensions have gone from reg fee to $100+ value within the last year. I'm saying .mobi has a chance to gain in value too is all, for short number and letter domains.

 

[Kassey Lee]

Things have changed. Today, even names containing 0/4, aeiou were picked up right away when dropped. For example, 2014.mobi, IAG.mobi, and UGC.mobi.

 

[Jacks86]

Whoa! Almost 17,000 .mobi registered yesterday and GoDaddy stopped their $1 promotion too. 4N and 3L are all gone, so what exactly is getting bought up right now? 5N? 4L?

http://www.registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx

Between all the .mobi gains over the last couple weeks and today, I think that makes up for anything lost since last fall. Still a long way to go to where it used to be, but this could be a real turnaround or at the very least a limited range of demand such as 1N-5N and 1L-3L with premium 4L that are also words.

 

[FM]

If you recall some of the .mobis that are no longer available, can you see through whois who bought many of them?

 

[Jacks86]

If you recall some of the .mobis that are no longer available, can you see through whois who bought many of them?

Good call. Here are a couple older lists that I found in my Recycle Bin that we can check up. Keep in mind these are all registered now.

But that's the weird thing. Before the 17k buy today, all the short stuff was taken. So what exactly is being bought right now is the question. Might try to scan some 5N lists and see if that's what's being bought up.

 

[Bayu]

Many 5N palindromes on my list are gone, such as 12821, 15851, 19891, 21812. 5N Patterns with triples on my list are also gone.

If you check whois, mostly are registered at Chinese registrars.

 

[FM]

Very interesting. I thought it would be other short domains such as LLN, but through a random type in, many of these are still available (although I am not sure about LNN where the NNs are doubles). And if you say that 4ns and 3Ls were registered, then, from other extensions, the guess is 5N and 4L chips. Either way, this should be something to watch.

 

[FM]

I wonder if these were bought during the .99 cent sale, or at current prices (6.99).

 

[hugegrowth]

Probably 4L and 5N best being taken.

Renewal fee for .mobi is around $13 at Godaddy.

 

[FM]

Were you all buying LLL and NNNNs? I just looked at my list, and realized I purchased 100 LNN (all double number). According to whois, someone beat me to the other by one day.

 

[Jacks86]

I bought 7 4N.mobi last year and 100 3L.mobi a few weeks ago when the GD promo started. But on Feb 2nd I mentioned that there were 2500 3L and 2500 4N left. So those all got bought out and today's purchases could be from any part of what's available in .mobi

 

[Kassey Lee]

When you compare yesterday's new registrations with the past data, you'll get excited. Remember .mobi reached its peak in January 2014 at 1,198,143. Then the slide began. In November last year, I started tracking its daily registrations. The daily number was around 300 and the bottom was reached on Feb 2 with 686,918. Since then, new and also total registrations started to increase. Big movement started about one week ago. Now that the 0.99 sale has ended, we'll see the true strength of .mobi. If good numbers continue, the second life of .mobi is very likely.

 

[Kate]

But nothing has changed, .mobi is still irrelevant. Lemmings following other lemmings.

 

[JB Lions]

-actually nm-

 

[Bayu]

Seems that all 5N without 0 or 4 are gone?

 

[Jacks86]

Seems that all 5N without 0 or 4 are gone?

Those were all gone a while ago. Now lots of the 0 without 4 are starting to disappear and the 80-90k range are only 4's.

 

[Jacks86]

Another 16k registered in ,mobi yesterday. Even some of the new gtld's are getting some action. Skeptics better hope that these hand reg's start to slow down and go in reverse, otherwise it doesn't look good on their end.

http://www.registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx

 

[FM]

^can you see what sorts of patterns are being registered?

 

[Jacks86]

It's really hard to tell, but if I had to guess, 5N would make the most sense. Also, maybe some premium 4L and sold one word domains.

 

[JB Lions]

Another 16k registered in ,mobi yesterday. Even some of the new gtld's are getting some action. Skeptics better hope that these hand reg's start to slow down and go in reverse, otherwise it doesn't look good on their end.

http://www.registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx

Skeptics would just point out what's already been pointed out, 0 reported sales this month - https://namebio.com/?s=AN1YDM5YzM down from 5 last month.

Can you explain why reg numbers excite you? How is that putting money in your wallet? This is only good for registries/registrars, so if you work for or getting paid by them, I could understand the excitement.

And when renewal time comes around next year, for a lot these, watch how many people are not going to want to talk about reg numbers anymore, with this one and some other extensions that are getting pumped here.

 

[Jacks86]

Skeptics would just point out what's already been pointed out, 0 reported sales this month - https://namebio.com/?s=AN1YDM5YzM down from 5 last month.

Can you explain why reg numbers excite you? How is that putting money in your wallet? This is only good for registries/registrars, so if you work for or getting paid by them, I could understand the excitement.

And when renewal time comes around next year, for a lot these, watch how many people are not going to want to talk about reg numbers anymore, with this one and some other extensions that are getting pumped here.

You keep thinking that sales go from 0 to 100 overnight. In the real word this doesn't happen. No business, stock, domain, house, whatever product that exists can generate such massive gains in such a short period of time. I was hand registering LLL.CO in September and it took 4-5 months before they were constantly selling at $100+ and showing this on Namebio. LLL.MOBI and NNNN.MOBI just sold out, so if prices don't change by the time were in mid summer, say end of July, then you were right to an extent.

Also, you keep thinking I'm the only one that bought .MOBI. I own seven 4N that I bought end last year and I bought 5 LLL at that time too. With the $1 pricing recently, I did load up on more 3L. But I didn't spend more than $100, so the last 40,000 .mobi's that were registered, maybe 1000 to 1500 of them would of been all the recent buyers on NP. So anyone else that bought those, I had ZERO influence on them despite what you think. I've said this before, I don't force anyone to do anything and even in my status I say " do your own due diligence".

By the time Renewal time comes around, domainers have to either pay for the names they want to hold, or sell them to an end user. No different than any other .com, net, org, etc. A domain is a domain and if someone believes in a name they like, or a bundle, renew and keep waiting.

 

[Jacks86]

Skeptics would just point out what's already been pointed out, 0 reported sales this month - https://namebio.com/?s=AN1YDM5YzM down from 5 last month.

Can you explain why reg numbers excite you? How is that putting money in your wallet? This is only good for registries/registrars, so if you work for or getting paid by them, I could understand the excitement.

And when renewal time comes around next year, for a lot these, watch how many people are not going to want to talk about reg numbers anymore, with this one and some other extensions that are getting pumped here.

I don't work for the registrar's and I buy numbers for the same reason that everyone else on here does for .com, net, org, info, etc. So if your saying that numbers in general are bad, then you should reiterate this statement to all domainers buying numbers in every extension.

 

[Jacks86]

I'll be honest with you, I'm sick of arguing about .mobi because nobody here knows where it will go. What happened to the extension 10 years ago is irrelevant to what's going on to the entire market as a whole now. I'm sorry to hear that lots of people didn't do well on it, but that's like anything else. Got to move on and see other opportunities. If you or I had a crystal ball to see into the future as to what domains did well or not, we wouldn't be having this debate. But as of right now, your opinion is no better than mine and we just have to wait and see what happens.

If you told someone two years ago that every single numbered .com domain(from 1 to 1 million) would be worth many times it's registration price, people would laugh at you. Now look at what happened and that's the best extension you can get and it still took how long to get popular? Domains themselves are actually rare pieces of intellectual property. Billions of people and only so many solid names/numbers exist in certain extensions. So for someone that likes 5555.com but doesn't have the six figure budget to buy it, they will look for alternatives. That's when .net, .org, .info, .mobi, and so many others come into play.