Time to invest .xyz

[Domain Monk]

After google decision is it worth investing in xyz extension? Will it's value increase?

 

[mad409]

.XYZ is one of the few new extensions worth investing in. Many reasons, but let me point to only one of them: the .XYZ registry is the only one with a coherent promotion strategy, not the least of which is their attractive pricing. This is long term, of course, that is with no expectation of substantial profit for years to come. It's no threat to .COM, to be sure. This said, Google has shown the way and others will follow: .XYZ is a viable alternative to a .COM address. I'm betting (see disclaimer below) this will catch on, albeit slowly.

And I'll add again it's truly generic, works with any keyword etc... I've spent the last couple hours looking at .dog, .run and others and just can't pull the trigger on some of this new stuff.

Would like to see your portfolio if you care to share, PM me. 500+ is a lot!

I think .web and .one could give xyz some issues but probably not due to the fact that .web and .one will be so overpriced the wind will be taken out quickly.

They did it right and didn't over price with xyz...

 

[mad409]

Dear ..actually why xyz is trending in dm ?

Call Google!

 

[DomainVP]

Everyone that is pro .xyz has a shiny new "Joined 2015" under their avatar. Now I'm not knocking opinions of new members, but to shrug off the opinions of people that have seen the trends and new extensions come and go is very foolish.

As an exercise, everyone should do a deep google search for namepros threads that have to do with all previously launched 'new extensions'.

What it comes down to is this: the internet hasn't changed, ICANN just wanted more money.

I think the reasons behind the whole massive gTLD expansions were one (or both) of these motives:

#1) Mobile and direction navigation was leaving ICANN unsure of the future of domains in 10+ years, so they are getting as much money as they can now. Trickling out gTLDS over an extended timeframe was less attractive to them, for whatever reason. Remember, they are a business and not a charity. Money is always the motive.

#2) I'm sure that many of the powers that be that control the domain infrastructure also own significant holdings in .COM. If they dumped a litany of failed extensions it would only make .COM more valuable. Again, money is always the motive.

... either way it was a win win for them to launch the gTLD program.

There is so much room for new trends and growth within .COM that it makes almost zero sense to invest in a gTLD that isn't a true domain hack. (and no abc.xyz is not a domain hack at all).

Think about domaining in general... small business and the general public has no clue that they can pick up some fantastic domains that fit their needs at the point we all purchase them. We all benefit off of what is known as a 'market inefficiency'.

I sometimes equate domaining to digital recycling. Look how long it took humans to come to the understanding that things we use every day needed to be recycled. In a world where people still have no clue how to build websites, it's going to still take some time before the general public truly understands domains.

Once the general public knows about domaining, and knows how to scoop up names like the best of us, that's when there may be an excuse for the existence of gTLD's... and that's still a good 5-7 years away from right now.

Also, .COM still has a lot of room for growth in value/pricing in some very specific formats - one you will likely see very soon that you wish you were buying right now (pay attention).

So with all of that said, just saying that 'gTLD is the future' without knowing past histories and market behavior is borderline irresponsible and definitely just hype-induced wishful thinking.

Most good gTLD's were sold at a premium during landrush, I didn't want them then... and I don't want them now. That's my stance, and I'm comfortable with that.

 

[Domains - Wanted]

Would like to see your portfolio if you care to share, PM me. 500+ is a lot!

I went a little... mad last year and need to weed some garbage out. I knew going in this was a long term investment and frankly have paid scant attention to them until recent news about Google's abc.xyz. This prompted me to follow up on my original plans of getting them all online. Will PM after I get some housekeeping done.

 

[brandnow]

And I'll add again it's truly generic, works with any keyword etc... I've spent the last couple hours looking at .dog, .run and others and just can't pull the trigger on some of this new stuff.

Would like to see your portfolio if you care to share, PM me. 500+ is a lot!

I think .web and .one could give xyz some issues but probably not due to the fact that .web and .one will be so overpriced the wind will be taken out quickly.

They did it right and didn't over price with xyz...

.One has been available since April for about $7 per name.

 

[mad409]

Everyone that is pro .xyz has a shiny new "Joined 2015" under their avatar. Now I'm not knocking opinions of new members, but to shrug off the opinions of people that have seen the trends and new extensions come and go is very foolish.

As an exercise, everyone should do a deep google search for namepros threads that have to do with all previously launched 'new extensions'.

What it comes down to is this: the internet hasn't changed, ICANN just wanted more money.

I think the reasons behind the whole massive gTLD expansions were one (or both) of these motives:

#1) Mobile and direction navigation was leaving ICANN unsure of the future of domains in 10+ years, so they are getting as much money as they can now. Trickling out gTLDS over an extended timeframe was less attractive to them, for whatever reason. Remember, they are a business and not a charity. Money is always the motive.

#2) I'm sure that many of the powers that be that control the domain infrastructure also own significant holdings in .COM. If they dumped a litany of failed extensions it would only make .COM more valuable. Again, money is always the motive.

... either way it was a win win for them to launch the gTLD program.

There is so much room for new trends and growth within .COM that it makes almost zero sense to invest in a gTLD that isn't a true domain hack. (and no abc.xyz is not a domain hack at all).

Think about domaining in general... small business and the general public has no clue that they can pick up some fantastic domains that fit their needs at the point we all purchase them. We all benefit off of what is known as a 'market inefficiency'.

I sometimes equate domaining to digital recycling. Look how long it took humans to come to the understanding that things we use every day needed to be recycled. In a world where people still have no clue how to build websites, it's going to still take some time before the general public truly understands domains.

Once the general public knows about domaining, and knows how to scoop up names like the best of us, that's when there may be an excuse for the existence of gTLD's... and that's still a good 5-7 years away from right now.

Also, .COM still has a lot of room for growth in value/pricing in some very specific formats - one you will likely see very soon that you wish you were buying right now (pay attention).

So with all of that said, just saying that 'gTLD is the future' without knowing past histories and market behavior is borderline irresponsible and definitely just hype-induced wishful thinking.

Most good gTLD's were sold at a premium during landrush, I didn't want them then... and I don't want them now. That's my stance, and I'm comfortable with that.

Yawn, .com again read the title old timer 2013 member. If you could please look into your crystal ball and let me now my future in the next 5 to 10 years I'd love to here that too.

 

[mad409]

.One has been available since April for about $7 per name.

I can't keep up, bet most of the good ones are gone. Oh well I'll wait for .web...

 

[DomainVP]

If you could please look into your crystal ball and let me now my future in the next 5 to 10 years I'd love to here that too.

As for you... you will have a happy and healthy life and will be come very wealthy beyond all of your dreams. But stay away from bats and cows as well, as they are bad luck for you.

Thats $200 for your fortune, you're welcome.

My point was that most people that are all about gTLDs are joined 2014-2015 and have not been exposed to development or domains for very long and don't care to do any research, but will gladly regurgitate the latest gTLD marketing campaign.

If gTLDs become widely popular and worth money, I will film myself eating a 3 month old bagel with wasabi and put it on youtube with the title "mad409 is my father (and I am a tiny baby)".

 

[Domains - Wanted]

Everyone that is pro .xyz has a shiny new "Joined 2015" under their avatar. Now I'm not knocking opinions of new members, but to shrug off the opinions of people that have seen the trends and new extensions come and go is very foolish.

Sure, some of us have just joined this forum five minutes ago. This is by no means indicative of time spent domaining. I sold my first domain back in '99 or '00 for $8000. Truth be told, this was pretty much by accident. But this is what got me into the game. 15 years on, and with some 100 domain sales under my belt, I'm sharing my take on .XYZ's. Telling the bottom line, holding "sources and methods" secret for obvious reasons

Interesting to see how many people in this "business" fail to grasp basic economic principles, which apply to so-called domaining same as in any brick and mortar business. Always assuming, that like me, you equate "domaining" with turning an outrageously huge profit (every so often)

 

[Domains - Wanted]

Deleted - double post.

 

[mad409]

As for you... you will have a happy and healthy life and will be come very wealthy beyond all of your dreams. But stay away from bats and cows as well, as they are bad luck for you.

Thats $200 for your fortune, you're welcome.

My point was that most people that are all about gTLDs are joined 2014-2015 and have not been exposed to development or domains for very long and don't care to do any research, but will gladly regurgitate the latest gTLD marketing campaign.

If gTLDs become widely popular and worth money, I will film myself eating a 3 month old bagel with wasabi and put it on youtube with the title "mad409 is my father (and I am a tiny baby)".

Thanks for the prophecy.

 

[DomainVP]

Sure, some of us have just joined this forum five minutes ago. This is by no means indicative of time spent domaining. I sold my first domain back in '99 or '00 for $8000. Truth be told, this was pretty much by accident. But this is what got me into the game. 15 years on, and with some 100 domain sales under my belt, I'm sharing my take on .XYZ's. Telling the bottom line, holding "sources and methods" secret for obvious reasons

Interesting to see how many people in this "business" fail to grasp basic economic principles, which apply to so-called domaining same as in any brick and mortar business. Always assuming, that like me, you equate "domaining" with turning a big profit

This is long term, of course, that is with no expectation of substantial profit for years to come.

Thank you for the conversation, and your opinion is valued.

The things I do are very intentional and by no means an accident, so we come from two very different schools of thought.

I like to talk about profit and trends that I can follow now, in the near term. So if you aren't expecting substantial profit for many years to come then I would say dump your 500 xyz and invest in .com that will sell today.

Then when xyz does have some value (it won't), you can buy choice ones that will be able to sell at that point in time with your funds from the profits of other sales. Instead of paying the renewals on 500 xyz for a decade and wasting assets.

Purchase what you can sell today, keep your inventory liquid, and have a narrow selection of 'top shelf' items that you can afford to allocate shelf space for. Or is that not brick and mortar business 101?

I also owned and operated a physical resale business out of a 12,000sq/ft bi-level warehouse, and have been online developing since 1999, so yes I get your point about join date... but that wasn't the point.

Most of what I said was beneficial and helpful, and I am unapologetic by making my observations of the correlation between join date and gTLD worship - because it's accurate.

But this is what anyone that disagrees with the imminent failure of gTLDs does... totally ignores the facts and hinges any argument on the smallest tidbit of text they can find that is irrelevant to the conversation.

 

[Domains - Wanted]

I like to talk about profit and trends that I can follow now, in the near term. So if you aren't expecting substantial profit for many years to come then I would say dump your 500 xyz and invest in .com that will sell today.

Then when xyz does have some value (it won't), you can buy choice ones that will be able to sell at that point in time with your funds from the profits of other sales. Instead of paying the renewals on 500 xyz for a decade and wasting assets.

Purchase what you can sell today, keep your inventory liquid, and have a narrow selection of 'top shelf' items that you can afford to allocate shelf space for. Or is that not brick and mortar business 101?

Actually, this is one part of "Brick and Mortar Business 101" that doesn't apply here. No shelf space cost to speak of

And given negligible resources needed to hold hundreds of .XYZ's, I see no reason to sacrifice. I choose to do both: invest in .COM's and .XYZ's. Plus selected, promising ccTLD's to boot

And agreed: my perception of time - acquired, I might add, late in life during my time in China - differs from most people hailing from the west. In my experience, domaining is a long game, not well suited to sprinters. While I have flipped domains on occasion, my best deals were made after holding domains for many years (e.g. EUR 3500 sale against EUR 60 in "cost of goods sold", representing 7 or 8 years' renewals).

One last point: I'm not much into domain flipping or selling these days. I prefer recurring profits (read: developing domain properties myself), which makes for a very different take on the current subject of nTLD's. As my user name here implies, I'm more interested in buying than selling...

 

[elevator]

.XYZ is one of the few new extensions worth investing in. Many reasons, but let me point to only one of them: the .XYZ registry is the only one with a coherent promotion strategy, not the least of which is their attractive pricing. This is long term, of course, that is with no expectation of substantial profit for years to come. It's no threat to .COM, to be sure. This said, Google has shown the way and others will follow: .XYZ is a viable alternative to a .COM address. I'm betting (see disclaimer below) this will catch on, albeit slowly.

Disclaimer: my portfolio includes 500+ .XYZ's and counting. Most of my domains are acquired with a specific project in mind and not a quick flip and sale. This said, I'm happy to sell if a good opportunity (read: motivated buyer) presents itself

Okay!!! No wonder, fine and good investment.

 

[gilescoley]

.XYZ is one of the few new extensions worth investing in. Many reasons, but let me point to only one of them: the .XYZ registry is the only one with a coherent promotion strategy, not the least of which is their attractive pricing. This is long term, of course, that is with no expectation of substantial profit for years to come. It's no threat to .COM, to be sure. This said, Google has shown the way and others will follow: .XYZ is a viable alternative to a .COM address. I'm betting (see disclaimer below) this will catch on, albeit slowly.

Its been said about nearly every new extension that comes along, especially when a big company registers one

remember Google grabbed G.co, Twitter grabbed no_url_shorteners and Amazon grabbed A.co, people were saying this will be the next big extension and if Google and Amazon are using it, the others will follow..unfortunately it doesnt happen that way, why would a company suddenly change their domain when they have spent a lot of money marketing and branding their business on a certain extension

Companies dont follow just because Google or Apple do something, even Apple and Amazon dont change really, people will still amazon.com and Google.com, it doesnt matter what other extension they have

500 names is crazy, that is a lot of wasted money, imaging your renewal fees next years...if you really believe in an extension, grab 5-10 really strong keyword names and hold them

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

I like .xyz and for that reason I will let Developing. in this new and fascinating extension go cheap if your into buying. Gets a few hits as I have created some backlinks. xxx gives this sweet name a new home

 

[London555]

timmayeur,

I like the geos as well, but most in the list are really good ones. If I've to pick a few personal favorites it would be:

• 3dPrint.xyz
• Advertising.xyz
• Investment.xyz
  
• Michigan.xyz
• Minnesota.xyz
• Ottawa.xyz
• Rated.xyz

the best are Investment and Advertising both generic no TM issues -Investment .xyz is a great blog name-good luck.

 

[Sam]

Search ".ASIA" and ".EU" and ".MOBI" for hype train gone wild.

 

[artstar]

O.o:P​

WTF.XYZ ???

Man alive Ive seen it all now!

after 10 years attempting to make as few $$$ in this crazee domain world the brainiacs in control of the these extenisons should be given the award for how to dupe people into making THEM hundreds of millions if not billions of $$$$ BY NOW selling a digital product that no other i can think of in recent history matches such in any market!

Heres the scenario I can envision in the offices of thee brains whomever invented these extensions and implemented them in the first place:

Scene :

Boardroom somewhere -

Well ladies and gentlemen ( wait, i know for all u trendy libtards its not LGBT correct today but u know they can go f themselves too)

people, ok we just made over the last 20 years or so a pxxx pot full of $$$$$$$ selling a ton of worthles digital junk to a world of suckers waiting foir the next thing,
(a round of snickers across the table erupts then into a roar of demonic laughter)

after they all calm down - so NOW its time to get even more $$$ out of the new and some old generation suckers out there who still have some hope they will profit within our monoploy.

Lets say we get a MAJOR corp , say like Google, yea thats it, to use a new extension that practically noone will refuse to buy eventually becaue they are on board

Here it is board mebers; its gonna be DOT XYZ!!

is this not brilliant or what they all agree??? It makes abso;utely no sense but who cares? If google uses it then that adds the credibility we need and should make us all a tidy profit over a duration of years with LITTLE investment from us!!

Cause we all know the huge profits we made from dot com dot net dot org dot info dot mobi dot co dot dot dot dot..............is dwindling and we need something so TRENDY and absurd (like lgbt but thats another agenda of course) that every sucker, oops pardon me, prospective buyer(s), will get in on it and pay us big $ over time!

- the board room goes silent for a few seconds while the people present assimilate this info and then slowly they rise up clapping and cheering their fellow visionairies, man we are the best marketers (oops i mean conartists on the planet aren't we as they all agree silently with each other by their knowing looks....

Who else could have taken some ridiculous digital ones and zeros call it .XYZ and sell it while a major company like google (who is in colusion with us anyhow) then market it like it's the end all to be all on the internet!

well as the saying goes theres a sucker born every minute and we are about to rake in even more $$$ while the peons who fall for our bs expect to make $$ themselves off this insanity! Well good luck to them btw they all agree, NOT!!

- end of meeting they all walk out to their waiting limoswhile flitting off to the exoctic places u or i will only dream of with the $$$ we all so eagerly doled out over the years

WTF dot xyz

 

[mad409]

O.o:P​

WTF.XYZ ???

Man alive Ive seen it all now!

after 10 years attempting to make as few $$$ in this crazee domain world the brainiacs in control of the these extenisons should be given the award for how to dupe people into making THEM hundreds of millions if not billions of $$$$ BY NOW selling a digital product that no other i can think of in recent history matches such in any market!

Heres the scenario I can envision in the offices of thee brains whomever invented these extensions and implemented them in the first place:

Scene :

Boardroom somewhere -

Well ladies and gentlemen ( wait, i know for all u trendy libtards its not LGBT correct today but u know they can go f themselves too)

people, ok we just made over the last 20 years or so a pxxx pot full of $$$$$$$ selling a ton of worthles digital junk to a world of suckers waiting foir the next thing,
(a round of snickers across the table erupts then into a roar of demonic laughter)

after they all calm down - so NOW its time to get even more $$$ out of the new and some old generation suckers out there who still have some hope they will profit within our monoploy.

Lets say we get a MAJOR corp , say like Google, yea thats it, to use a new extension that practically noone will refuse to buy eventually becaue they are on board

Here it is board mebers; its gonna be DOT XYZ!!

is this not brilliant or what they all agree??? It makes abso;utely no sense but who cares? If google uses it then that adds the credibility we need and should make us all a tidy profit over a duration of years with LITTLE investment from us!!

Cause we all know the huge profits we made from dot com dot net dot org dot info dot mobi dot co dot dot dot dot..............is dwindling and we need something so TRENDY and absurd (like lgbt but thats another agenda of course) that every sucker, oops pardon me, prospective buyer(s), will get in on it and pay us big $ over time!

- the board room goes silent for a few seconds while the people present assimilate this info and then slowly they rise up clapping and cheering their fellow visionairies, man we are the best marketers (oops i mean conartists on the planet aren't we as they all agree silently with each other by their knowing looks....

Who else could have taken some ridiculous digital ones and zeros call it .XYZ and sell it while a major company like google (who is in colusion with us anyhow) then market it like it's the end all to be all on the internet!

well as the saying goes theres a sucker born every minute and we are about to rake in even more $$$ while the peons who fall for our bs expect to make $$ themselves off this insanity! Well good luck to them btw they all agree, NOT!!

- end of meeting they all walk out to their waiting limoswhile flitting off to the exoctic places u or i will only dream of with the $$$ we all so eagerly doled out over the years

WTF dot xyz

Wow I'm waiting for the movie!

 

[Memon Irshad]

Not so bad

 

[rubencouto]

None here so far...
On the other hand, it's always time to invest .com!

 

[London555]

As for you... you will have a happy and healthy life and will be come very wealthy beyond all of your dreams. But stay away from bats and cows as well, as they are bad luck for you.

Thats $200 for your fortune, you're welcome.

My point was that most people that are all about gTLDs are joined 2014-2015 and have not been exposed to development or domains for very long and don't care to do any research, but will gladly regurgitate the latest gTLD marketing campaign.

If gTLDs become widely popular and worth money, I will film myself eating a 3 month old bagel with wasabi and put it on youtube with the title "mad409 is my father (and I am a tiny baby)".

Didn't you just join in Oct. 2013???? I think that's almost 2014.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

This is obviously a product of targeted subliminal TV marketing. As we all know Hooli was the original Silicon Valley tech giant to use a .XYZ domain.

 

[London555]

Sure, some of us have just joined this forum five minutes ago. This is by no means indicative of time spent domaining. I sold my first domain back in '99 or '00 for $8000. Truth be told, this was pretty much by accident. But this is what got me into the game. 15 years on, and with some 100 domain sales under my belt, I'm sharing my take on .XYZ's. Telling the bottom line, holding "sources and methods" secret for obvious reasons

Interesting to see how many people in this "business" fail to grasp basic economic principles, which apply to so-called domaining same as in any brick and mortar business. Always assuming, that like me, you equate "domaining" with turning an outrageously huge profit (every so often)

Obviously some people here assume everyone is a moron other than themselves of course if they didn't come to NP 3 years ago etc. Will the .xyz hit big-who knows- but we reg'd FloodInsurance.xyz just in case it does and like you-we'll hold for investment and see what a major might pay for this name if .xyz becomes mainstream.