Pheenix Backorder

[SyedBilal]

I am new at back ordering domains, i have had never used this service before. Well, I am looking for a service which works with "first come first served". I don't want to enter auction and win the domain name just like other back ordering services like, Godaddy, NameJet, Snapnames, Pool etc. Im looking for a service which simple transfer the domain name after catching it for me.

How does Pheenix work? Does it take user to the auction if more than 1 user back orders the same domain name?

Any suggestions?

 

[AEProgram]

WHO ELSE????? HUH?????

huge domains / name bright....holy efff

interesting, they usually beat hd

 

[NameOmnia]

I think they SAY they beat HD / NB but I am not sure it's true

 

[FPForum]

WHO ELSE????? HUH?????

huge domains / name bright....holy efff

Dangit..My guess was going to be Andrew Reberry..I would have gotten 1500 pts too lol

Usually if he wants a name he gets it..From numbers I've seen in the past he grabs far more domains than SN and NJ.

 

[namey]

Mpal.com is currently $900+ on Pheenix

Edit: Final price $3,073.95. :sold:

 

[Abdul Aziz R]

There is a domain name when I try to backorder it, it says: Unable to backorder these domains

it will drop on May, 17

any clues!

 

[NameAgency]

Most of times I get this error message is because I already have this domain on the backorder list.
And If I'm not wrong there's a limit number of backordered domains per day at Pheenix

 

[Abdul Aziz R]

You are right, I found that it is already in the backorder list

thanks man

 

[RaiderX]

How does Pheenix auctions work? Is it whoever bids the highest bid during the final seconds of auction or if someone bids within a certain time auction is extended?

 

[Jasonn]

any bids in the last 5 minutes extends the auction to 5 minutes.

 

[discobull]

Pheenix is now capturing domains through Moniker? Arrrrgh!

 

[Jasonn]

Pheenix is now capturing domains through Moniker? Arrrrgh!

say what?

 

[discobull]

say what?

I realized after I posted that I might be overreacting. Pheenix caught akok.com today and according to whois the registrar of record is Moniker. What I'm not sure about, since the domain is now in auction, is whether the domain will end up at Pheenix or Moniker. I guess we'll know in 3 days...

 

[discobull]

Scratch that. I'm an idiot. The domain they caught is okak not akok. lol Sorry for the panic.

 

[SimpleDomaining]

This is an old topic, but the question is i guess kinda same. I haven't done backordering for years. things change i assume since then. So.... i did a .com domain backordering via godaddy. But that domain is registered in some unknown to me registrar. I need an advice here. Which backordering system do i need to use to be guaranteed to be at least included to the auction for that domain. Is godaddy backordering guarantees me a right to get into the auction, if it wasn't registered with godaddy? thanks.

 

[AEProgram]

This is an old topic, but the question is i guess kinda same. I haven't done backordering for years. things change i assume since then. So.... i did a .com domain backordering via godaddy. But that domain is registered in some unknown to me registrar. I need an advice here. Which backordering system do i need to use to be guaranteed to be at least included to the auction for that domain. Is godaddy backordering guarantees me a right to get into the auction, if it wasn't registered with godaddy? thanks.

here you go http://www.snoopnames.com/blog/the-best-domain-drop-catcher-in-the-world-is/

 

[Name Trader]

It's pot luck which back order company captures the domain when it drops. But often it ends up with the big guys who have lots of servers hitting the registry up when it drops. This is why a GoDaddy backorder is kinda worthless unless you are confident that the domain won't be picked up by anyone else. In which case you don't need to backorder it. Just hand-reg it.

 

[Soofi]

It's pot luck which back order company captures the domain when it drops. But often it ends up with the big guys who have lots of servers hitting the registry up when it drops. This is why a GoDaddy backorder is kinda worthless unless you are confident that the domain won't be picked up by anyone else. In which case you don't need to backorder it. Just hand-reg it.

on point stub!

 

[N-A]

but they also don't catch many good names.

A good name is in the eye of the beholder. I've just started using Pheenix because I saw the success rate vs. pricing. I will put lower end names here to not worry (a little more than 2x what I pay already). So far, I've caught 2 decent names in 2 days that I wanted and in an auction. Arguably, I could have stayed up till 4 AM to hand register myself and save money.

It's pot luck which back order company captures the domain when it drops. But often it ends up with the big guys who have lots of servers hitting the registry up when it drops. This is why a GoDaddy backorder is kinda worthless unless you are confident that the domain won't be picked up by anyone else. In which case you don't need to backorder it. Just hand-reg it.

Why couldn't GoDaddy compete big time? All they would need to do is allocate resources from their $1/month WordPress hosting servers to drop catch. Nobody would notice a thing...

And my thoughts...

I never used Pheenix before before now because the whois information and the website looks like a hybrid of the 90s/00s design wise.

Since using them, I've been happy. However, should I be afraid to BO 100's of names, get them and not have to fight tooth and nail to get them back or transfer out? It seems like they're losing money, but reverting back to the design, they are making a profit by cutting all expenses unnecessary for catching I suppose.

I just made a whole lot of money from the domain names that Pheenix caught for me. What do i do next?
Take your loved ones or a special person on a great vacation!

So, what's your take on Pheenix being legit and their whois? Also, with their help quote, why would they really want that from you? What is there to gain if they do catch something an investor saw and sold it for $100,000. I find this hard to believe in a capitalistic society.

I don't figure I'm going to try to sell or develop until they're out of Pheenix, until reassured, those names are mine after the $18 or $$$$ on the auctions.

Any bad experiences, besides not catching a name?

Sorry for digging this up, I couldn't find much about them. They are ICANN accredited, but so is Moniker and Ename.

Thank you ahead of your time for your responses. This does sound noobish to post, but I have doubts as to their profit making strategy... and they seem to be catching a lot of names that I end up wanting, to be beat by them in mere seconds with 2-click purchase and API's running on a smaller scale.

 

[gorilla_bob]

David,

Thanks for expressing your thoughts about Pheenix. Rest assured, we have a high reputation in the domain industry and have over an 8 year reputation of providing domain services to the community with Pheenix and FreshDrop.

So definately not a fly by not operation.

For Pheenix, we've been operating for over 2-3 years now and if you'll search the boards, you'll be hard pressed to find any complaint whatsoever about us. And in an industry where any bad doing by companies spreads like wildfire, that means a lot to our rep.

Glad that we are able to help you catch domains and looking forward to continue providing you great service.

Tan

 

[discobull]

A good name is in the eye of the beholder. I've just started using Pheenix because I saw the success rate vs. pricing. I will put lower end names here to not worry (a little more than 2x what I pay already). So far, I've caught 2 decent names in 2 days that I wanted and in an auction. Arguably, I could have stayed up till 4 AM to hand register myself and save money.

Why couldn't GoDaddy compete big time? All they would need to do is allocate resources from their $1/month WordPress hosting servers to drop catch. Nobody would notice a thing...

And my thoughts...

I never used Pheenix before before now because the whois information and the website looks like a hybrid of the 90s/00s design wise.

Since using them, I've been happy. However, should I be afraid to BO 100's of names, get them and not have to fight tooth and nail to get them back or transfer out? It seems like they're losing money, but reverting back to the design, they are making a profit by cutting all expenses unnecessary for catching I suppose.

So, what's your take on Pheenix being legit and their whois? Also, with their help quote, why would they really want that from you? What is there to gain if they do catch something an investor saw and sold it for $100,000. I find this hard to believe in a capitalistic society.

I don't figure I'm going to try to sell or develop until they're out of Pheenix, until reassured, those names are mine after the $18 or $$$$ on the auctions.

Any bad experiences, besides not catching a name?

Sorry for digging this up, I couldn't find much about them. They are ICANN accredited, but so is Moniker and Ename.

Thank you ahead of your time for your responses. This does sound noobish to post, but I have doubts as to their profit making strategy... and they seem to be catching a lot of names that I end up wanting, to be beat by them in mere seconds with 2-click purchase and API's running on a smaller scale.

Pheenix uses an auction system when they receive more than one backorder for a domain, so don't expect that you're always going to get domains for $18.95 through them.

They've been pretty good for me so far, except when it comes to transferring out. I've frequently run into issues that delay transfers by a few days due to problems with the whois record. Otherwise, no problems.

 

[tonyk2000]

They've been pretty good for me so far, except when it comes to transferring out. I've frequently run into issues that delay transfers by a few days due to problems with the whois record. Otherwise, no problems.

If you are transfering do godaddy - then Yes, the transfers would be delayed on godaddys end as their system is unfortunately unable to correctly parse whois output of 90% pheenix-regged domains, even though whois.pheenix.com returns whois records in correct industry-standard format and works 24/7/365... We did not notice a single issue with whois parsing for transfers initiated from any other registrar around

We however noticed another issue - not a critical though - which is an opportunity to expedite transfer-aways on pheenix end (by manually approving the transfer) as it is often not offered by pheenix... available for some domains only. Of course, since pheenix is not positioning itself as an end-user-oriented registrar, does not seem to offer online real-time domain renewals and some other registrar-specific features are not (yet?) developed, we usually transfer the "catches" away after 60 days. It is not a problem at all... Pheenix team, please keep up the good work in dropcatching area

 

[Soofi]

Pheenix is what I use and recommend everyone!

 

[N-A]

@gorilla_bob Thanks for clearing that up. There's not much around, but positive all around. That can be bad in my books, so I openly questioned it to get opinions.

I've noticed an increase in drops Pheenix is getting over others, so I decided to give it a try. Now that I know, I'll be using it more often.

Except it did say something that I'm only allowed 10 domains at a time? I think I gotta email you for that, I'll see and take appropriate action next time.

 

[DomainVP]

Pheenix is excellent; fast transfer out system too. GD transfers usually take less than 24 hours, whereas other registrars seem to take 6-7days.

With drop catching in general you have to evaluate the name, potential competition, and where you are going to place your orders.

If its a great name you know others will want you place an order with as many DC services as you can, and fight it out at auction.

If it's a good name you like, but don't want to pay $69.00 for, and you are pretty sure that nobody else spotted it; then you can use Pheenix and be successful for $19.99.

However, if you are wrong... then someone who has placed an order with SN, NJ, NB will more than likely get it.

Pheenix is great if you have a niche that you know works for you, and you want to save some money.

In general, if you think you are going to catch a extremely premium name without competition worldwide; you are kidding yourself; everyone is looking at that name too.

Do your research on FreshDrop before any buy and then place your bets ladies and gentleman! Place your bets.

 

[N-A]

However, if you are wrong... then someone who has placed an order with SN, NJ, NB will more than likely get it.

I could be wrong, but I believe I did see a B/O on a name Pheenix caught on another venue.

So, I will post all there in the off-chance that they do catch names SN, NJ, etc. can't.

The whois was questioning and number of domains you can attempt to B/O are hindering though.