Non-domainer: how for worlds can emails be solicited? are your incoming phone calls all solicited somehow, in which way? are adsense ads on your blog solicited by a visitor provided there are any?
Have you not seen this and many things like this?
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This gives you the opportunity to do, among other things, turn off cookies, give you the links to opt out etc. It's the law in Europe, you know. So you can do something to avoid things.
There is also something you can do about SPAM and that's report them to the appropriate people - their hosting provider, their domain registrar etc. Here's a typical hosting support entry
has anyone solicited your endless bacon/weather/ebbing/whatelse likeme-likeyou posts ever so that i keep seeing all that crap in my feed on a domaining forum?
..applying 19 century horse riding rules to android apps is funny in a way but still useless if not stupid. end of story.
You don't have to review a forum via a feed and if you do you can filter it and avoid the more fun threads if you want.
What I have a issue with is people like you who piss and moan about SPAMMERS and at the same time condone the very people who teach these SPAMMING a-holes how to SPAM
Here you are working for a Forum that published a "how to guide" on SPAMMING, and you come here to another domain forum to complain about receiving SPAM from domainers, you don't see the hypocrisy in that? It's hard to take your position seriously, I know you read the dncollege tutorial and yet you turned down every opportunity to denounce the content, which makes you like a hypocrite, considering all this, you really have no business posting here, other than whining.
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Welcome to all domainers. Most people don't go to a flea market to sell their junk... but in domainer land you can.
This whole SPAM (UBE) vs UCE debate is absurd. You might as well argue which is the cutest; puppies or kittens?
Just read the laws, it's that plain and clear.
UCE is not UBE, and this is defined by law and permitted under proper circumstances; specifically relevant domain sales.
Personally, I tried the whole zone scrape and whois blast once. It was highly ineffective and generated more ire than positive response.
If someone is scraping the zone for related keywords and sending out a pathetic sales pitch to 4,000 people from a ghost domain, yes... indeed that is SPAM.
Researching quality leads and sending them a tailored sales pitch specifically for their business will always generate an offer; and it takes far less time and effort. For me at least.
And how to you gain your leads? Through search engines? Through some automation tools. Just because it's more targetted doesn't mean it's not SPAM. It could be that Biggie is ONLY getting emails from ME and my many aliases - it's hard to suggest that this isn't spam.
In the US - a single instance of unsolicited mail is SPAM unless it's nicely crafted AND meets the follow up requirements and doesn't use harvested email. I"m not sure if manually going to whois is counts as harvesting but nearly every whois provider has an agreement whereby you can't use that information.... so, as long as you are being meticulously anal and manual (or waiting), you're likely sending SPAM.
What you're doing is still unsolicited but, generally, if you act professionally most people are polite. As for tailored sales pitch specifically for their business? Really?
Dear [name]
This [domain] would work great in [location] for your [businessname] because it .....
*Yawn*
hah!
that's because the solicitors use automated tools, rather than manual research
cuz, it's "easier" to enter a term or phrase in a query box, click submit, then receive email addresses of people who own domain names with those keywords.
there is no discriminating process beyond that.
imo...
And how do you get names?
Enter a phrase into google, click submit, then peel email addresses of people that have similar interests. Not much separates automation from discerning anymore (not including the large volume bulk)
Ultimately
@DomainVP is right. Not too many people get upset with sensibly targetted UCE.
Ultimately
@biggie is right insofar as unsolicited bulk email sucks.
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@raider is right in that most people here are hypocrites and Biggie is no different.
BUT
I get it - you all want to participate in a big domainer circle jerk because we're better than them.
Who's next?
