Emails from domainers selling crap names

[biggie]

i thought it would be real nice to share some of the emails i receive from fellow domainers trying to sell their crappy names.

hopefully, some of you will read these and stop sending or see the mistakes they make so you won't make them too.

here is one from Andrew Brad, and if he is a member here...he's a clown! why? because he included every other email address he sent this mail to. thus one could harvest his list and spam them too.

To whom it may concern,



The premium generic aged domain FREDLOYAINSURANCE.NET is up for sale and I am emailing several parties that have registered similar domains OR use "[fredloya], [fredloya insurance], [loya insurance], [fred loya claims], [fredloya locations] etc." as keywords in their advertising campaigns.This is a 6-year old domain, with no drops since it was registered in 2006.



According to the Google Traffic Estimator the keywords ‘Fredloya Insurance’ receive over 40,500 searches every month, thus making this a high SEO premium domain worth thousands of dollars.



Right now, the asking price for FredLoyaInsurance.net is just $250, and is available on a first-come-first-served basis. Yes, you read it right, $250 ONLY.



This is a great opportunity to acquire a great domain at a throw-away price. If you have any questions don't hesitate to send me an email or call me directly at +91. 939-2774-412.



All transactions will held either via Paypal or via the secure services of Escrow.com.



Best regards,



Andrew Brad


Domain Broker, FredloyaInsurance.net

+91. 939-2774-412

if any of you receive such emails, feel free to post them so we can expose the spammers.

Thanks

 

[Jasonn]

the majority of this spam started in the past year/ year and a half. first it was the domain opportunity/alert/etc trying to sell expiring domains. now its these "xx88" losers going crazy. i thought people were going to jail for sending spam. why are these people getting away with it?

 

[kolbsoft]

I wonder how many of the "templates" on this thread have been sent by members. :P

 

[tonecas]

the majority of this spam started in the past year/ year and a half. first it was the domain opportunity/alert/etc trying to sell expiring domains. now its these "xx88" losers going crazy. i thought people were going to jail for sending spam. why are these people getting away with it?

because:
1) you contact their ISP and they wont do nothing;
2) you contact their Email provider and they wont do nothing;
3) you contact their Registrar and they wont do nothing
4) you contact ICANN, they contact the Registrar and they do nothing and ICANN wont do nothing about them

and why nobody does anything? because their is money to be made by all. everyone wants a piece of the action. money is the supreme objective, everything else is secondary. ethics, moral, even long term thinking is trashed in the way and considered old fashion.

regards,
tonecas

 

[Kate]

I wonder how many of the "templates" on this thread have been sent by members. :P

Well many people come to domaining thinking it's easy money. The spammmers perfectly illustrate that.
In fact it looks easy. I mean it is easy to lose money with domains
But domaining is much more difficult than using a ready-made template and spamming everything that moves.

 

[Jasonn]

because:
1) you contact their ISP and they wont do nothing;
2) you contact their Email provider and they wont do nothing;
3) you contact their Registrar and they wont do nothing
4) you contact ICANN, they contact the Registrar and they do nothing and ICANN wont do nothing about them

and why nobody does anything? because their is money to be made by all. everyone wants a piece of the action. money is the supreme objective, everything else is secondary. ethics, moral, even long term thinking is trashed in the way and considered old fashion.

regards,
tonecas

it was only a few years back you heard of people being sentenced to 100 years in jail and fined millions of dollars for spamming. now it seems no one cares. i can only assume these current spammers aren't based in the US.

 

[Kate]

What makes you think the US is not a place where there are a lot of spammers
http://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/countries/

 

[lennco]

What makes you think the US is not a place where there are a lot of spammers
http://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/countries/

Aren't we all spammers?
All unsolicited email is spam.

 

[JB Lions]

the majority of this spam started in the past year/ year and a half. first it was the domain opportunity/alert/etc trying to sell expiring domains. now its these "xx88" losers going crazy. i thought people were going to jail for sending spam. why are these people getting away with it?

You can send email, you just have to follow CAN-SPAM Act. A few of these in this thread seem ok to me, just some domainers trying to sell some domains. There's nothing wrong with that. There are others I do consider SPAM, where I'm getting 2 and 3 from the same person with names not relating to anything I have, no return address, no information on opting out etc (which I wouldn't do anyway, since if it was a spammer, you just told them you have a working address). I just delete them and get on with life.

 

[m-i-k-e]

"Hello,

The premium domain - BoobAss.com - is up for sale at an offer price of $611 only. Due to its close match to the domain name you own, we thought you might be interested. If you are interested, please reply back at the earliest to get the deal. If not, we regret the inconvenience.

Best Wishes
Aaron Fleming"

"Due to its close match to the domain name you own" Which one? This one really made me LOL. Spamming a more or less adult domain to random domain owners takes it to a whole new level of idiocy.

He's had this domain since June 30th 2012, but, plugging, his email into google already shows a few other people laughing at his offer. In other emails he calls himself Ben Parker. Whois confirms that these are made up aliases.

 

[johname]

Boobass.com dropped in price 50 percent in a week lol

m-i-k-e because you own a domain with an "a" in it he emailed you lol

 

[alien51]

In other emails he calls himself Ben Parker.

Isn't that the Spiderman?

 

[Jasonn]

You can send email, you just have to follow CAN-SPAM Act. A few of these in this thread seem ok to me, just some domainers trying to sell some domains. There's nothing wrong with that. There are others I do consider SPAM, where I'm getting 2 and 3 from the same person with names not relating to anything I have, no return address, no information on opting out etc (which I wouldn't do anyway, since if it was a spammer, you just told them you have a working address). I just delete them and get on with life.

i guess it depends on how many domains you own. i own lots and get multiple ones from these two parties (the xx88 people and the 'domain opportunity/inquiry/alert) every day! there is no way they are sending it out manually, thats for sure. the domain opportunity people have real opt outs but the other guys just say its a 'one time' email, yet i get them every single day for different domains.

 

[Kate]

"Due to its close match to the domain name you own" Which one? This one really made me LOL. Spamming a more or less adult domain to random domain owners takes it to a whole new level of idiocy.

It's a lack of consideration for sure, besides an E-mail that contains crude words is likely to score higher for spam anyway. Again, we are not dealing with Nobel nominees either :gl:

 

[fm1234]

What gets my dander up with these asshats is how much more difficult they have made selling to end users. Two-three years ago, there were certainly e-mails going around offering domains for sale; however, it was not uncommong for me to come across prospects who had never seen such a message. Now the market is completely carpeted with this crap, greatly increasing the difficulty in getting an introductory e-mail read at all, let alone taken seriously.

Frank

---------- Post added at 12:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:13 PM ----------

(and yes, obvious solution is obvious - quit relying on e-mail so much. But doing so greatly increased the cost and hassle of effective end user selling, leading me to scale back my efforts and find income elsewhere, which is just annoying.)

 

[iowadawg]

What gets my dander up with these asshats is how much more difficult they have made selling to end users. Two-three years ago, there were certainly e-mails going around offering domains for sale; however, it was not uncommong for me to come across prospects who had never seen such a message. Now the market is completely carpeted with this crap, greatly increasing the difficulty in getting an introductory e-mail read at all, let alone taken seriously.

Frank

---------- Post added at 12:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:13 PM ----------

(and yes, obvious solution is obvious - quit relying on e-mail so much. But doing so greatly increased the cost and hassle of effective end user selling, leading me to scale back my efforts and find income elsewhere, which is just annoying.)

So you want the spammers to stop spamming so your spam will rise to the top?

See, I classify domainers who send out emails out of the blue as spammers also!

I am mr businessman, and I open my email in box to find this email from someone I never heard of or did business with offering to sell me some domain?
Mark it spam!

 

[JB Lions]

So you want the spammers to stop spamming so your spam will rise to the top?

See, I classify domainers who send out emails out of the blue as spammers also!

I am mr businessman, and I open my email in box to find this email from someone I never heard of or did business with offering to sell me some domain?
Mark it spam!

Except there are other Mr. Businessmen out there, that get emails from domainers and buy domains. A whole thread dedicated to it. I got one of those where I actually got a domain. So there is legit selling going on. I don't mind them myself if it's actually targetted and following all the rules that should be. Now, I don't like some of the other ones, most of what you're seeing in this thread.

 

[TestCase]

Boobass.com dropped in price 50 percent in a week lol

Yeah m-i-k-e, you better jump on this as another alias also offered it to me at $1211 earlier this week. Sound like a REAL STEAL at only $611! :bah: :p

 

[m-i-k-e]

Yeah m-i-k-e, you better jump on this as another alias also offered it to me at $1211 earlier this week. Sound like a REAL STEAL at only $611! :bah: :p

Lol, and he did say that it's a premium name, so, maybe I should??

I actually got a response from him (from my clearly negative response to his original reply) , it turns out he is from DomainsCart "a brokerage service" and one of his customers asked him to sell the domain for him, he still wants to know if I am interested in his domain. Just in case that one doesn't tickle my fancy he offered 7 more random names for my viewing pleasure.

 

[johname]

ASSBOOB.COM is available for regfee if anyone cant afford boobass lol

 

[fm1234]

posted by iowadog:

So you want the spammers to stop spamming so your spam will rise to the top?

I understand your point, but I don't think you understand mine, or the definition of spam.


Frank

 

[alien51]

I think there is no law against "annoying" emails. But for an "annoying email" to be considered "criminal" in nature, you probably have to send around 10 million emails a week from the same email address.

If you stand accused of being an email criminal, you will probably get sued for damages for inflicting mental anguish and emotional distress.

 

[RevolutionaryDomains]

Yet another noob targeting Domainers, rather than End-users for their lousy names. When will they ever learn...?



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Good morning,

I would like to start off by thanking you for your time in advance. My name is May Shalabi, I'm a Domain Brokerage Consultant working on behalf of the owner of (removed).net to sell this premium asset.

While searching online I came across your domain (removed).org since both domains have listings under a related keyword I thought that your company may be interested in acquiring (removed).net. To qualify to purchase this domain, please submit an offer by:

Clicking this link http://www.elitedomainbrokerage.com/make_offer/07cdfd23373b17c6b337251c22b7ea57/.com
Responding directly to this email.
The seller is motivated to sell and I am happy to present all and any reasonable offers for consideration.

Thank you sincerely for your time and I look forward to your feedback.

Sincerely,

May Shalabi
EliteDomainBrokerage.com
[email protected]

If you wish to opt out of EliteDomainBrokerage.com domain sale emails, please 1-click unsubscribe here.

If the domain is no longer available through the aftermarket referral, it’s because the domain has been purchased and is no longer available.

Elite Domain Brokerage | 9654 E. 131st St. #411 | Palos Park, IL 60464

 

[Archangel]

Wanna know something sad? I followed the link here & offered $1. It was lower than the seller's minimum. Okay, so I put in $10k. It was still too low. lol Stupid owner.

BUT it gets worse...

I tried $50k. That was too low. I offered ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. Even THAT was too low to the owner! I said "f*ck it" & put $1mil. That was accepted.

If RevolutionaryDomains gets an email telling him his $1mil offer was accepted, I apologize in advance lol

Yet another noob targeting Domainers, rather than End-users for their lousy names. When will they ever learn...?



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Good morning,

I would like to start off by thanking you for your time in advance. My name is May Shalabi, I'm a Domain Brokerage Consultant working on behalf of the owner of (removed).net to sell this premium asset.

While searching online I came across your domain (removed).org since both domains have listings under a related keyword I thought that your company may be interested in acquiring (removed).net. To qualify to purchase this domain, please submit an offer by:

Clicking this link http://www.elitedomainbrokerage.com/make_offer/07cdfd23373b17c6b337251c22b7ea57/.com
Responding directly to this email.
The seller is motivated to sell and I am happy to present all and any reasonable offers for consideration.

Thank you sincerely for your time and I look forward to your feedback.

Sincerely,

May Shalabi
EliteDomainBrokerage.com
[email protected]

If you wish to opt out of EliteDomainBrokerage.com domain sale emails, please 1-click unsubscribe here.

If the domain is no longer available through the aftermarket referral, it’s because the domain has been purchased and is no longer available.

Elite Domain Brokerage | 9654 E. 131st St. #411 | Palos Park, IL 60464

 

[Jasonn]

I think there is no law against "annoying" emails. But for an "annoying email" to be considered "criminal" in nature, you probably have to send around 10 million emails a week from the same email address.

If you stand accused of being an email criminal, you will probably get sued for damages for inflicting mental anguish and emotional distress.

there have been people sued for millions and jailed for years in the US for less.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/118493/spammer_sentenced_to_nine_years_in_jail.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2584014...ive-spammer-dies-murder-suicide/#.T_zLIpFkGNU

 

[JB Lions]

there have been people sued for millions and jailed for years in the US for less.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/118493/spammer_sentenced_to_nine_years_in_jail.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2584014...ive-spammer-dies-murder-suicide/#.T_zLIpFkGNU

For less? That's another level right there. Your example was #8 at Spamhaus. Besides the volume of spam, they falsified information, breaking CAN-SPAM. The other guy, same territory. Volume, falsifying information and also "tax evasion and criminal forfeiture."