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I visited here every day.But seems no more news here.
.mobi dead or .mobi on NP dead ?
.mobi dead or .mobi on NP dead ?
For post #56, as I said earlier, I don't comment on the decision of other Namepros mods/staff. Namepros is fairly careful about who they allow to become a moderator/staff member and I trust the judgement of the decision made by them.I have a blog, I have a business to run, and I moderate 2 other forums here on Namepros -- I have better things to do than check over the decision of other mods/staff which I believe are more than competent enough to make good choices. So long as people follow the forum rules, they can say anything good or bad about .mobi they want.
I don't know how anyone could say I'm not balanced -- maybe I'm not super hero .mobi mod deleting every negative comment about .mobi, however I've never deleted any pro-.mobi comments which didn't attack other members of this forum.
Actually its a departure in your understanding of what I posted both times. :pThat's quite a departure from your earlier post, but I'll accept that you failed to initially clarify who you were talking about in your earlier post.
There are hundreds of examples, I'm sure you can look them up on your own, whether you will understand why I call them cult like in behaviour might not be as easy.Can you show me an actual example of anyone who thinks .mobi is their god and savior? Since you bothered to post it in this thread then you must have at least one example you can provide. Please note that as someone who knows many of the major .mobi investors, there is no tld worship that I am aware of. Being an enthusiasts is not worship.
You may not have an agenda but I think you're being naive when you say no one has it in for .mobi enthusiasts.
I encourage you to do the same, when you refer to people as cultists, be clear as to whom you are speaking.
Anyone who doesn't agree with you is an 'arrogant naysayer' and you expect conversations to be civil? You rile enough people and some of them will bite back and the only defence one sees from .mobi 'enthusiast' when the person makes sense is personal attacks. Way to avoid the cult stereotype.Thanks for drawing attention again here, a perfect example of the naysayer arrogance that has permeated the .mobi section of NP since the beginning of the extension. I'm curious how those who have and continue to profit from .mobi will be categorized.
This forum did very well before .mobi and will do as well after. I don't think NamePros needs .mobi for its survival, quite the contrary in fact.the mobi section needs careful & sensible moderating for a while to restore any kind of confidence in the forum.
You're known by the company you keep. Members are banned for valid reasons as per the status forum rules.I have done a bit more reading & I've now spoken to a number of ex-members of NP who were either banned or have quit because of the senseless 'mobi-bashing' (which I would like to make quite clear is NOT the same thing as simply not agreeing with a pro-mobi member).
There is nothing wrong with the .mobi forum here at NP. As always its a place where both viewpoints are encouraged and nurtured, exactly in accordance with its charter. What is changing now is that the reality about .mobi's resale value is biting people where it hurts - the bank balance, why they get extremely churlish when questioned.It doesn't need explaining because I trust that no-one who visits this thread would be chirlish enough to declare that nothing has gone wrong with the dotmobi forum here on NP.
the forum..no. It's those that continually goad and ridicule others for - .. investing in it; ..owning them; ..not listening to those that 'know'; etc etc., that is the problem.There is nothing wrong with the .mobi forum here at NP.
..disputable in the .mobi forum.As always its a place where both viewpoints are encouraged and nurtured
HA. You are not really printing this are you??????Disagree with someone, feel free to post.
Seems a few with the 'mod' title are now running around to every sub-forum deleting and lecturing others like it's 'their' forum. (Aren't mods assigned to a subforum for a reason??)What is changing now is ...
Why does this only happen with .mobi? It's the only extension so many people have sand in their fanny over.
Is it
A crap extension but those who have bought into it wont accept it?
A normal extension but there's just more debate than usual?
A great extension and a lot of people can't see it?
out of curiosity, does team leader mean site management?
does it have rank over moderator?
out of curiosity, does team leader mean site management?
does it have rank over moderator?
Actually its a departure in your understanding of what I posted both times. :p
There are hundreds of examples, I'm sure you can look them up on your own, whether you will understand why I call them cult like in behaviour might not be as easy.
I may disagree with your views but I'm not attacking you personally. But apparently you don't see calling some as yet unidentified .mobi enthusiasts to be cultists as a personal attack. You're obviously entitled to your opinion, again as am I. Back to your examples though...Being enthusiasts is one thing, blatantly misleading people about the state of the tld and or its investment futures without an eye at current market conditions is another. And personal attacks on anyone who doesn't agree is the cherry on the cake.
Just to be clear, these aren't actual examples or quotes from any particular posts or threads at NP but rather your perceptions? But let's look at your perceptions of the .mobi enthusiast community anyway...The kind of stuff you should be looking for viz .mobi comments:
Apparently you are unaware of the .mobi Sunrise TM application period as well as mTLD's pool of Premium and Reserved domains. Currently mTLD is releasing one and two character .mobi domains only to entities with clear objectives of development and promotion. One of the first to emerge was 53.mobi by Fifth Third Bank, marketing the URL to their customers for mobile banking. All one and two character .mobi domains are unavailable to domainers so clearly domainers can't "cover" these. Similarly Bank of America, Chase, ING, Fidelity, Vanguard, Deutsche Bank, HSBC and other financial companies are using .mobi. Or maybe the fact that the #2 cable channel in the US, Fox News has a perpetual ad running for FoxNews.mobi would qualify as end user interest? I could go on if you'd like.- "There is not much movement in the domainer markets, but end users love them" - complete bs, since domainers are the first to cover any / all domains that an end user might even be remotely interested in.
- "Its a great investment, just needs time to mature" - really? If the domain is worthless now, it probably will also be in the future. Unless someone offers you solid proof on 'why it would be a great investment', its just propaganda.
- "Going to a .mobi site is a guarantee that it will be mobile compliant" - come now :p
Well, at least I hope we can both agree that substantially more people will be surfing the web via their mobile devices 5 years from now. It's up to any .mobi owner to be proactive in making sure they are catching that wave. I personally consider it more likely to succeed than a presently non-existent future tld... there's nothing yet here to discuss and is not a basis IMO to disregard .mobi.- ".mobi is a great investment since in 5 years substantially more people will be surfing the web via their mobile devices than via pc's" - not really again, a. .mobi has nothing to do with the mobile web as a whole, which has come of age already w/o needing .mobi and b. in 5 years you'll also have multiple new tlds which might be more brandable and easier to use and might even become the default mobile internet tld, something .mobi hasn't been able to do
I provided some examples of companies above using .mobi, there are many more. Many market their .mobi sites so yes, there is branding involved. I'm not sure what this has to do with other 4-letter tld's though, perhaps you can clarify...- "Companies are using .mobi more and more, not cos technically they have to, although does offer a guarantee, but its also about branding." - sure, just like .info, .name and .asia - all four letter tlds are pretty much in the same boat as far as to domainer pricing / sales are concerned.
I could spend a couple of days digging them up, but I think you get the message, and I have a business to run. Not every post in the .mobi forum needs to say how great it is or how it will cure the national deficit from the profits its investors make. :lol:
Anyone who doesn't agree with you is an 'arrogant naysayer' and you expect conversations to be civil? You rile enough people and some of them will bite back and the only defence one sees from .mobi 'enthusiast' when the person makes sense is personal attacks. Way to avoid the cult stereotype.
Like it or not, the mobile web is coming. Rather than debate .mobi's role in it, get out there and develop some .mobis. Plenty of people have already made money developing .mobis.. Domaining the the .mobi extension is highly speculative -- anyone saying otherwise is utterly clueless and/or a liar. It might work out, it might not. You might find end users, you might not. The only sure thing is that a properly developed .mobi (just like .com or another extension) can make money -- possibly lots of it. As I've been saying for over a year now, debating the viability of .mobi is a waste of time -- there is no guarantee of anything. All that time wasted arguing... Wonder how much money could have been made had it been spent productively developing domains.
Like it or not, the mobile web is coming. Rather than debate .mobi's role in it, get out there and develop some .mobis. Plenty of people have already made money developing .mobis.. Domaining the the .mobi extension is highly speculative -- anyone saying otherwise is utterly clueless and/or a liar. It might work out, it might not. You might find end users, you might not. The only sure thing is that a properly developed .mobi (just like .com or another extension) can make money -- possibly lots of it. As I've been saying for over a year now, debating the viability of .mobi is a waste of time -- there is no guarantee of anything. All that time wasted arguing... Wonder how much money could have been made had it been spent productively developing domains.
Would be better as a poll, I'd choose #3, but around here that makes me a mobi lovin foolNo one has answered my question?
Is it
A crap extension but those who have bought into it wont accept it?
labrocca, I see you're still in Vegas, I thought you'd enjoy seeing what's going on at your local McCarran International Airport...
Look up, look down, everywhere you look is .mobi :tri: Clearly .mobi is alive and well.
I just think .mobi is struggling to anchor in its niche. .i would own only a few .mobi at most..
Why are you guys raging so much that a lot of people think .mobi is a waste of time, if it's so great who cares and get on about making your fortune forget the naysayers who will be begging to buy in soon.
Why are you guys getting sand in your fanny over it?
I'm a neutral, and it seems people are pushing at you further because your giving a stupid reaction.
I say "You and Your" being the +++mobi users.
Speaking for myself Morph, I'm busy working on my .mobi businesses, things are moving forward. I completely accept there are people who think .mobi is a waste of time, and they're entitled to their opinions.Why are you guys raging so much that a lot of people think .mobi is a waste of time, if it's so great who cares and get on about making your fortune forget the naysayers who will be begging to buy in soon.
There is a flip side to your original question, why do people rage against .mobi when they have no interest in the extension? I have little interest in ccTLD's, .org, .net, .pro, .tv, .info, etc.. yet I'm not going all over the place telling other people they are cultists because they invest in a particular extension.Why are you guys getting sand in your fanny over it?
I'm a neutral, and it seems people are pushing at you further because your giving a stupid reaction.
I say "You and Your" being the +++mobi users.
Why are you guys raging so much that a lot of people think .mobi is a waste of time, if it's so great who cares and get on about making your fortune forget the naysayers who will be begging to buy in soon.
Why are you guys getting sand in your fanny over it?
I'm a neutral, and it seems people are pushing at you further because your giving a stupid reaction.
I say "You and Your" being the +++mobi users.
No it's not just .mobi, .tel fostered a few heated debates too :hehe:Why does this only happen with .mobi? It's the only extension so many people have sand in their fanny over.